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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Lilly the flower

Lilly the flower Report 16 Jan 2009 18:41

Hi Michelle, thats fine, whenever you have time is fine. I have been wondering if this 'Molly' is actually Ellen Maude, , but she is Nellie on the 1901,!! I always thought the nickname for Ellen was Nellie, never heard of a Ellen being called a Molly, do you think Ellen and Molly are the same person? oh I am now confused lol....Lilly

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Jan 2009 16:59

Lilly

Will do your lookup in a couple of hours or so.Thanks for waiting.

Michelle : )

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Jan 2009 16:57

Alison

There is no Annie with father Thomas matching occupation on the marriage cert.There are 2 Annie's showing in Northumberland right age with father's Thomas.Neither Thomas's were farm servants.This is the problem sometimes when you look back 18 odd years cos occupations do change.We was lucky with Annie's husband.So i will post both later when i am next on-tonight.Busy with my little 1 at mo-she wants to watch Dumbo on my laptop!!

Michelle

Lilly the flower

Lilly the flower Report 16 Jan 2009 10:12

Morning Michelle, I would like a 1901 census look up please, it for a Molly Chatten b. abt 1899 Bungay Suffolk, Parents were a Charles and Mary Ann Chatten. they were living at Meeting house Lane, just need the details of the 1901 Census please as I have found a Molly on the 1911, and I am wondering, who on earth she was, yes another new name lol...thanks you......Lilly

Alison

Alison Report 16 Jan 2009 09:54

Hi Michelle,

That will be great if you can take another look for Annie...

Yes you gave Marjorie a lot of info...it takes a while to work it all out I guess.
Hope you have a good day..

Its been very hot over here it reached 43c...and is still 30c and its 7pm.


Alison

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Jan 2009 08:41

Alison

Thanks for the birth in 1901 least that gives me an idea where they might have been on the 1901-Tynemouth area.

Yes did work hard yesterday on the Scottish census-just hope that lady checks back on it.I sent her a message yesterday which she received and haven't heard anything?

Will take a look for Annie again wasn't seeing her the other day.

Michelle

Alison

Alison Report 16 Jan 2009 00:56

Hi Michelle Re Hately & Johnson.

Thanks again not sure if you have had any luck with Annie Johnson.

Not sure if this will help but she did have a sister called Patience Isabella she was born1901 registerd Dec 1901 Tynmouth..so she wont be on the 1901 census but you never know if they carried the names throught the family.

Alison.

PS Good work on Marjorie's scottish rellies! A big pat on the back.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:50

Marjorie

1841 Continued...

1841 Scotland Census
about Robert Harper
Name: Robert Harper
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about James Milin
Name: James Milin
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Occupation: Ag Lab
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45




Phew!!!I will need maiden names for the female line to take that back.I will also look for Jessie later.

***Michelle***


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:48

Marjorie

1851 Continued for Roberts Grandparents

1851 Scotland Census
about Peter Harper
Name: Peter Harper
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Aberdeenshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

Here is the final 1 for the Harper side the 1841

1841 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Occupation: Farmer
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about Christian Harper
Name: Christian Harper
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about Isabet Harper
Name: Isabet Harper
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Female
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about John Harper
Name: John Harper
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about Elspet Harper
Name: Elspet Harper
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

1841 Scotland Census
about James Harper
Name: James Harper
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Alvah
County: Banffshire
Address: Hill Of Bog
Parish Number: 146
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 40
Christian Harper 30
Isabet Harper 12
John Harper 9
Alexander Harper 7
Elspet Harper 5
James Harper 2
Robert Harper 5 Mo
James Milin 45

Continue...























***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:42

Marjorie

1851 Showing parents of Robert-these would be your Roberts Grandparents.

1851 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Marnoch, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Labourer On Roads
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about Christian Harper
Name: Christian Harper
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1808
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: Alexander
Gender: Female
Where born: Forglen, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Labourer Wife
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about Elspet Harper
Name: Elspet Harper
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Female
Where born: Alvah, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Servant
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about James Harper
Name: James Harper
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Alvah, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about Robert Harper
Name: Robert Harper
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Alvah, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about Hugh Harper
Name: Hugh Harper
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Alvah, Banffshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

1851 Scotland Census
about William Harper
Name: William Harper
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Christian
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Aberdeenshire
Parish Number: 247
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Towie No3
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 7
Page: 17 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 51
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_52
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 48
Christian Harper 43
Elspet Harper 14
James Harper 12
Robert Harper 15
Hugh Harper 7
William Harper 5
Peter Harper 3

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:36

Marjorie

1861 of Robert-Alexander's father

1861 Scotland Census
about Robert Harper
Name: Robert Harper
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Alvah, Banffshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Middle Haddo
Occupation: Cattleman
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_28
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 20
Mary Watson 59
Mary Watson 18
Jane Watson 14
George Dinnas 31
Alexander Clark 22
Robert Harper 20
William Robb 15
Hellen Rannie 21

Head of house

1861 Scotland Census
about William Watson
Name: William Watson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Middle Haddo
Occupation: Farmer Of 150 Acres 5 Labourers
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1861_28
Household Members: Name Age
William Watson 20
Mary Watson 59
Mary Watson 18
Jane Watson 14
George Dinnas 31
Alexander Clark 22
Robert Harper 20
William Robb 15
Hellen Rannie 21





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:33

Marjorie

1881 for Alexander

1881 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 154
Registration district: Forglen
Civil Parish: Forglen
County: Banffshire
Address: South Briggs
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 8
Line: 22
Roll: cssct1881_45
Household Members: Name Age
James D Morrison 35
Jessie A Morrison 25
William A Morrison 11 Mo
James Hay 18
Alexander Harper 13
Ann Beaton 29
Rev. Robert Grant 44
Ann Reid 44

Head of house

1881 Scotland Census
about James D Morrison
Name: James D Morrison
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jessie A
Gender: Male
Registration Number: 154
Registration district: Forglen
Civil Parish: Forglen
County: Banffshire
Address: South Briggs
Occupation: Farmer Farming 91 Acres Arable Employing 1 Man 1 Girl & 1 Boy
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 8
Line: 18
Roll: cssct1881_45
Household Members: Name Age
James D Morrison 35
Jessie A Morrison 25
William A Morrison 11 Mo
James Hay 18
Alexander Harper 13
Ann Beaton 29
Rev. Robert Grant 44
Ann Reid 44

1871 for Alexander shows his parents names and his siblings.

1871 Scotland Census
about Robert Harper
Name: Robert Harper
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Alvah, Barffsh
Registration Number: 247
Registration district: Turriff
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Cotter House
Occupation: Farm Servant
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1871_44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30
Ann Harper 24
Helen Harper 6
Alexander Harper 3
William Harper 3 Mo

1871 Scotland Census
about Ann Harper
Name: Ann Harper
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Auchterless, Abersh
Registration Number: 247
Registration district: Turriff
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Cotter House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1871_44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30
Ann Harper 24
Helen Harper 6
Alexander Harper 3
William Harper 3 Mo

1871 Scotland Census
about Helen Harper
Name: Helen Harper
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Turriff, Abersh
Registration Number: 247
Registration district: Turriff
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Cotter House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30
Ann Harper 24
Helen Harper 6
Alexander Harper 3
William Harper 3 Mo

1871 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Abersh
Registration Number: 247
Registration district: Turriff
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Cotter House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1871_44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30
Ann Harper 24
Helen Harper 6
Alexander Harper 3
William Harper 3 Mo

1871 Scotland Census
about William Harper
Name: William Harper
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Abersh
Registration Number: 247
Registration district: Turriff
Civil Parish: Turriff
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Cotter House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 69
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1871_44
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Harper 30
Ann Harper 24
Helen Harper 6
Alexander Harper 3
William Harper 3 Mo






















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:28

Marjorie

1891 for Alexander and Mary parents of Robert.1st is Mary and eldest 2 from the 1901.Alexander is working elsewhere-i do have his also.

1891 Scotland Census
about Mary Harper
Name: Mary Harper
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeen Shire
Registration Number: 210A/2
Registration district: New Byth
Civil Parish: King Edward
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Poors House Fishrie
Occupation: Farm Serv Wife
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_65
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Harper 26
Alexr Harper 3
Mary J Harper 1

1891 Scotland Census
about Alexr Harper
Name: Alexr Harper
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relationship: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeen Shire
Registration Number: 210A/2
Registration district: New Byth
Civil Parish: King Edward
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Poors House Fishrie
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_65
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Harper 26
Alexr Harper 3
Mary J Harper 1

1891 Scotland Census
about Mary J Harper
Name: Mary J Harper
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeen Shire
Registration Number: 210A/2
Registration district: New Byth
Civil Parish: King Edward
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Poors House Fishrie
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 7
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1891_65
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Harper 26
Alexr Harper 3
Mary J Harper 1

here is Alexander

1891 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Servt (Servant)
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 155A/1
Registration district: Gamrie
Civil Parish: Gamrie
County: Banffshire
Address: Clenterty Farm
Occupation: Farm Servt
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1891_43
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 55
Elsie Smith 55
Elsie Smith 16
John Smith 15
Gertrude E S Smith 13
Margret L S Smith 12
Alexander Harper 23
Alexander Donald 20
George Moir 20
James Cumming 16
James Birnier 16
William Stewart 16
Elsie Johnston 25
Anna B MacKie 17


Here is the Head of that household

1891 Scotland Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elsie
Gender: Male
Where born: Deskford, Banffshire
Registration Number: 155A/1
Registration district: Gamrie
Civil Parish: Gamrie
County: Banffshire
Address: Clenterty Farm
Occupation: Farmer
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 15
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1891_43
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 55
Elsie Smith 55
Elsie Smith 16
John Smith 15
Gertrude E S Smith 13
Margret L S Smith 12
Alexander Harper 23
Alexander Donald 20
George Moir 20
James Cumming 16
James Birnier 16
William Stewart 16
Elsie Johnston 25
Anna B MacKie 17

















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:13

Marjorie

1901 Continued for Robert's parents

1901 Scotland Census
about Robert W Harper
Name: Robert W Harper
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Helen Harper
Name: Helen Harper
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relationship: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Inverkeithing, Banffshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Elspet Harper
Name: Elspet Harper
Age: 4mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relationship: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Fyvie, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

Will look for more.








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 15:10

Majorie

Sorry for the wait.

Will start with Robert's parents.Here they are on the 1901

1901 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Turriff, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
Occupation: Ploughman
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Mary Harper
Name: Mary Harper
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Alexander
Gender: Female
Where born: New Ryth, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Alexander Harper
Name: Alexander Harper
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Kingomdard, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Mary I Harper
Name: Mary I Harper
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relationship: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Aberie Harper
Name: Aberie Harper
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relationship: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

1901 Scotland Census
about Agness Harper
Name: Agness Harper
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relationship: Dau (Daughter)
Father's Name: Alexander
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: King Edward, Aberdeenshire
Registration Number: 197
Registration district: Fyvie
Civil Parish: Fyvie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: Brownhill Cottar House
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 16
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1901_67
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Harper 33
Mary Harper 36
Alexander Harper 13
Mary I Harper 11
Aberie Harper 8
Agness Harper 6
Robert W Harper 4
Helen Harper 2
Elspet Harper 4mo

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ElizabethK

ElizabethK Report 15 Jan 2009 14:32

Michelle

Re Farrelly

How have you done that ?!!

The 1881 census gives Ann's birthplace as Shaftsbury and the first child I have found is Rose born in Liverpool in 1873,so it looks VERY promising

They could have been in Ireland at the time of the 1871 census as you suggested.

Yes,the name is often mis spelt,frequently as Farley,I suppose Farrelly spoken with an Irish brogue could be misconstrued.!

I am very grateful for your help

Very many thanks

Elizabeth

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 12:30

Gina

This is what the Uk Incoming list says:

About UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
This database is an index to the Board of Trade’s passenger lists of ships arriving in the United Kingdom from foreign ports outside of Europe and the Mediterranean from 1878-1888 and 1890-1960. Information listed on the passenger lists may include: name of passenger, their birth date or age, port of departure, port of arrival, date of arrival, and vessel name.

For more information about this database, click here.
This database is an index to the Board of Trade’s passenger lists of ships arriving in the United Kingdom from foreign ports outside of Europe and the Mediterranean. Exceptions to this are vessels that originated outside of these areas but then picked up passengers in European or Mediterranean ports en route

So basically Europe is not covered on these records.

poss death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Filippo Battaglia
Name: Filippo Battaglia
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 62
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 144 (click to see others on page)

Only 1 showing on the 1901 is this 1 birthyear a bit out though

1901 England Census
about Filippo Battaglio
Name: Filippo Battaglio
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Italy

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: St James, Clerkenwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Loretto Cerrone 52
Maria Satalino 44
Filippo Battaglio 48
Vito Cusnro 50
Vincenys Manccous 33
Francessis Satalino 19
Marianth Satalino 60
Georonne Cisceia 43

Listed as Married and an Assistant Carpenter

Sorry i can't help further.Have you tried any of the Italien sites they may have boarding from that end on their sites?

Michelle



Gina

Gina Report 15 Jan 2009 12:09

Hello I'm looking for Filippo Battaglia came over from Italy early 1900's he was born in 1858 he lived in Atina. not sure think he came from Mariglianella so what I'm looking for is look up on incoming passengers. many thanks Gina

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 11:53

Elizabeth

Noticed this unsure if it is relevant but thought i would show you

Knocktemple Old Cemetery Inscriptions, County Cavan, Ireland
about Matthew Farrelly
Given Name: Matthew
Surname: Farrelly
Comments: grandfather

noticed some children of Matthew and Ann were born in County Cavan.Maybe Grandfather of Matthew??

Wondered if this could be a poss marriage??With an Ann with a middle J name.Matthew's surname has the y missing but so many transcript errors on his surname hardly a surprise!!

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Matthew Farrell 1866 Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire
View Record
Ann J Roberts 1866 Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire
View Record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Matthew Farrell
Name: Matthew Farrell
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 277 (click to see others on page)

Wonder if this is her?

1851 England Census
about Ann Roberts
Name: Ann Roberts
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Shaftesbury, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Shaftesbury Holy Trinity
Town: Shaftesbury
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Shaftesbury
Sub registration district: Shaftesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Roberts 49
Caroline Roberts 48
Isaac Roberts 19
Ann Roberts 15
Henry Roberts 12
Charles Roberts 7
Elizabeth Lodge 59

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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Ann Roberts Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 APR 1837 Holy Trinity, Shaftesbury, Dorset, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Robert Roberts Family
Mother: Caroline


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


This is only a poss maybe totally wrong???








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Jan 2009 09:26

Alison

I do think its the family also.Did take some finding that 1.As it was transcribed wrong.Now seeing the Margaret witness too-who would have been his sister from the 1901 confident thats them.

Will try again re Annie later but didn't have much luck yesterday.

Michelle