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Corinne

From the 1911 onwards its down to guess work.I would say it must have been very hard on Annie losing 2 children-if Lilian did infact die also.This could have led to her leaving afriad of losing anymore children??Now she could have left the country?she could have remained single and died?or she could have remarried?

So i will look and see any options for the above-although leaving the country i only have incoming not outgoing.

There is a poss marriage in 1925-i can't say if this is her the only way to know is to ask records office to cross check the father's name and see if it is Albert J-or A.J

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Annie L Lewis
Name: Annie L Lewis
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Simpson
District: Wandsworth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 783 (click to see others on page)

Annie L Lewis 1925 Simpson Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey
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Arthur Simpson 1925 Lewis Wandsworth Greater London, London, Surrey

In other areas there are quite alot

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
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Annie L Lewis 1915 Tucker Bedwelty Monmouthshire
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Annie L Lewis 1915 Eynon Cardiff (1837-1974) Glamorgan, Monmouthshire
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Annie L Lewis 1915 Bruce West Derby Lancashire
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Annie L Lewis 1915 Jervis Manchester (1837-1924) Lancashire
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Annie L Lewis 1918 Falconer Chipping Sodbury Gloucestershire
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Annie L Lewis 1919 Davies Newport M Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
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Annie L Lewis 1920 Rodgers Burton Upon Trent Derbyshire, Staffordshire
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Annie L Lewis 1923 Bowring Neath (1837-1970) Breconshire, Glamorgan
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Annie L Lewis 1924 Pritchard Thornbury Avon, Gloucestershire

None showing with the Louisa middle name all just listed as L

There are so many deaths impossible to say if they are her although i thinks it more likely that she died beyond the transcribed records and will be on the full index somewhere.

You mentioned your relative found the death?have you any details of this at all?

WOW Thankyou so much!!!! I couldn't find the correct Albert Lewis or his death so I can now order those certs!! I ordered the 1904 birth for Lilian but the mothers maiden name was down as Annie Louisa Batchelor!!! However Franks profession matched and Sophia was Franks mothers name!! So we have 2 strange things!!! Frank possibly listed his father on the marriage cert as John Lewis when it was William and Annie possibly had another surname when registering Lilians birth!!! It is odd!! I couldnt find another Lilian Lewis born in Croydon that would fit. On the 1911 they put her as Lily but i couldn't trace a Lily Lewis born in Croydon 1904. My grandad said she was Lilian and was slighly backward also and died around age 14. If it helps i wonder if she was Lily?? My great aunt Edith was on 1911 as Edie though so they obviously put their pet names on.
The info you have given me is great, it is so exciting and I really hope she is the Annie L we are looking for!!!
Thanks again
Corinne

Corinne

You mentioned your Grandfather couldn't remember Albert.I think he died before he was born.I think this is the correct birth record from the 1's i listed earlier

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert William F Lewis
Name: Albert William F Lewis
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 265 (click to see others on page)

and here is his death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Albert W F Lewis
Name: Albert W F Lewis
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 1
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 162 (click to see others on page)

he may still have been on the 1911 as he may have died late Apr,May or June.1911 was taken 2nd April 1911.

I am still looking for Lilian's death.

Corinne

So they are married and with mother's maiden name here is your Grandfather reg is 1913 and as you said born 1912

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Frank H Lewis
Name: Frank H Lewis
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Hutchings
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 481 (click to see others on page)

A poss for Lilian

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lilian Sophia Lewis
Name: Lilian Sophia Lewis
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 258 (click to see others on page)

Poss for Edith

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Edith Lewis
Name: Edith Lewis
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 326 (click to see others on page)

2 possibles for Albert

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert John Lewis
Name: Albert John Lewis
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 247 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert John Lewis
Name: Albert John Lewis
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 397 (click to see others on page)

Also these 2

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert William F Lewis
Name: Albert William F Lewis
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 265 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert Edward L Lewis
Name: Albert Edward L Lewis
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 2[5_][5_] (click to see others on page)

Looking at the family on the 1911 will give you the correct birthyears

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Corinne

So now to the marriage and you mentioned on the 1911 listed as married 7 years so would make a 1904 marriage for the couple.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Annie Louisa Hutchings
Name: Annie Louisa Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 38 (click to see others on page)

Annie Louisa Hutchings 1904 Epsom Surrey
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Frank Lewis 1904 Epsom Surrey

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Corinne

Ok so we got to 1891 and dad A.J still alive and living in Hackney reg area.
In 1901 family has scattered.

Here looks like Albert with a housekeeper-still listed as married and maybe unwell?

1901 England Census
about Albert Hutchings
Name: Albert Hutchings
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Homerton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Hutchings 48
Mary Fouke 50
Alfred Fouke 22

Listed as a Master Builder

I have found brother Henry he was with Alberts parents-John and Sarah and of course Grandparents to Annie.

1901 England Census
about Henry Chas Hutchings
Name: Henry Chas Hutchings
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Claydon, London, England

Civil Parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 280
Household Members: Name Age
Fred Wm Mair 48
Jennie Mair 39
Lily Mair 48
Wm Ger Mair 13
Edwd John Mair 10
Nellie Mair 7
Charles Mair 5
Albert Mair 1
Henry Chas Hutchings 15
John Hutchings 74
Sarah Hutchings 70

Head of this house is

1901 England Census
about Fred Wm Mair
Name: Fred Wm Mair
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jennie
Gender: Male
Where born: Chelsea, London, England

Civil Parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 280
Household Members: Name Age
Fred Wm Mair 48
Jennie Mair 39
Lily Mair 48
Wm Ger Mair 13
Edwd John Mair 10
Nellie Mair 7
Charles Mair 5
Albert Mair 1
Henry Chas Hutchings 15
John Hutchings 74
Sarah Hutchings 70

I think this is the Grandparents cos i looked back at the 1861

1861 England Census
about Albert Hutchings
Name: Albert Hutchings
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Fareham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Fareham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Fareham
Sub registration district: Fareham
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Hutchings 33
Sarah Hutchings 30
Albert Hutchings 8
Edward Hutchings 5
Charley Hutchings 2
Jane Hutchings 3 Mo
Maria Bath 16
Henry Carter 30

Albert James died soon after the 1901 census and this is why i wondered if he was ill on the 1901 and had a housekeeper there.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 48
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 367 (click to see others on page)

So this all looks good as he was listed as dead in the 1904 marriage of Annie.

Continue...

Corinne

thanks for all the brill info.Well i am going to start at the beginning and see if i can work forwards.You will i am sure have some of this info already as you have done some good research.So sorry if info is repeated.

Annie was listed as having a father named A.J Hutchings on her marriage of 1904.So lets start with him.His name was Albert James Hutchings and here is his birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Fareham
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 437 (click to see others on page)

Looks like he married in 1873 to Caroline Roff

Albert James Hutchings 1873 Croydon Greater London, Kent, Surrey
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Caroline Roff 1873 Croydon Greater London, Kent, Surrey

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 270 (click to see others on page)

So we now have birth and marriage.

1st child to the couple was named after father and would be Annie's brother.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 192 (click to see others on page)

and then in 1879 Annie was born

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Annie Louisa Hutchings
Name: Annie Louisa Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 209 (click to see others on page)

Now to the 1st census we see Annie in and its the 1881 and looking at the census image-which is quite faded and poor standard i have magnified middle name and it is clearly a L and not a K.The transcript error is due to the elaborate writing which has the H of Hutchings in the above name(Alberts)looped down towards Annie's middle name making at a quick glance look like a K.Im sure you have this record so won't break it down.

1881 England Census
about Annie K. Hutchings
Name: Annie K. Hutchings
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: A. J.
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: 2 Bartlett St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
A. J. Hutchings 28
Caroline Hutchings 29
Albert J. Hutchings 4
Annie K. Hutchings 2

Albert listed as a Bricklayer which again ties in with marriage record.

So good up to now and i am confident this is all correct.

Now to 1891

Annie now showing with the correct L middle name.And their are 2 more siblings with her.

Henry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Henry Charles Hutchings
Name: Henry Charles Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 493 (click to see others on page)

and Lilian

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lilian Henrietta Hutchings
Name: Lilian Henrietta Hutchings
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 591 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1891

1891 England Census
about Annie L Hutchings
Name: Annie L Hutchings
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Albert J
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapton Park

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: South Hackney Ward
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert J Hutchings 38
Caroline Hutchings 40
Albert J Hutchings 14
Annie L Hutchings 11
Henry C Hutchings 6
Lilian H Hutchings 2

Albert listed as a Builder

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Thank you very much Michelle for the details for my Tempest family.

Regards

Angie

Thank you Michelle... I will follow up on the Thomas from Wicklow lead. I think I may have seen the 1901 Thomas but discounted it as I read Tailor and not Sailor. The family that is on the 1891 census is two households grouped together. The first half are at #13 and the balance at #15. If this is my guy I have puzzle pieces to try to put together and that is so much better than nothing. I'll aslso check into the lost baby. If that is their's, they were pregnant at the time of marriage or that baby was premature (i'm being generous and giving a due date of Sept :) )

I hope this goes somewhere. Don't know how you did it but THANK YOU!

Chrissie

1901 Continued...

1901 England Census
about John W Clarke
Name: John W Clarke
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about Doris Clarke
Name: Doris Clarke
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about Arther R Clarke
Name: Arther R Clarke
Age: 5 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about John T Mathews
Name: John T Mathews
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

Robert a Labourer-Carriage Worker
John Groom

11 Newtown Street

Ok now if i look for a birth of a Robert Clarke in 1902 these are the results

For Shropshire around 1902 these are the only births

Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Arthur Robert Clarke 1901 Apr-May-Jun Whitchurch S (1853-1969) Cheshire, Flintshire, Shropshire
View Record

Robert Clarke 1897 Jan-Feb-Mar Whitchurch S (1853-1969) Cheshire, Flintshire, Shropshire
View Record

Robert Woodhall Clarke 1897 Oct-Nov-Dec Ellesmere Flintshire, Shropshire
View Record

Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Arthur Robert Clarke 1901 Apr-May-Jun Whitchurch S (1853-1969) Cheshire, Flintshire, Shropshire
View Record

Robert Clarke 1901 Jan-Feb-Mar Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
View Record

Robert Clarke 1903 Jul-Aug-Sep West Bromwich Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
View Record

Frank Robert Clarke 1900 Apr-May-Jun Wolverhampton Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands
View Record

Robert William Clarke 1905 Jan-Feb-Mar West Bromwich Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire

What was the listed district of your Roberts birthplace?

Chrissie

The ages you stated for me Benjamin aged 38 Elizabeth 35 and Doris 1 if this was for the 1901 this could be them-the family i have previously mentioned to you.Elizabeth's age is out though.The older children could well have left home by the 1911.I have seen a birth around 1858 for a Robert Benjamin Clarke.There are no Benjamin Clarkes on any census with the birthplace and age you have given me.I looked for Doris born 1900 1st and this is the only 1 showing in the right birthyear and place.So you can see why i am always drawn back to this family

1901 England Census
about Robert Clarke
Name: Robert Clarke
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Clarke
Name: Elizabeth Clarke
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about Ada A Clarke
Name: Ada A Clarke
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

1901 England Census
about George W Clarke
Name: George W Clarke
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitchurch, Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alkmond
Town: Whitchurch
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitchurch (Shropshire)
Sub registration district: Whitchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Clarke 39
Elizabeth Clarke 29
Ada A Clarke 12
George W Clarke 10
John W Clarke 3
Doris Clarke 1
Arther R Clarke 5 months
John T Mathews 23

Continue....

Thanks Michelle!!! Here goes:
Annie Louisa Hutchings married Frank Lewis both born in Croydon.
Frank born 1880 In 1911 census stated married for 7 years so assume it around 1904, but as i said i have one marriage cert the only one i could find on line for Epsom 1904 but Frank has put dad as John Lewis when our Franks dad was William Lewis, born Teynham Kent. They lived in Croydon and then in 1901 they are in Bexhill Susex. Frank was a plumber then a slater/tiler. His father William Lewis married Sophie Howland and they had Harry and Frank. Looking back to Williams census in 1861 I have found he had a brother John, so not sure if for some reason frank Listed him as his father on the marriage cert!! On the cert Annies father is listed as AJ Hutchings a builder (deceased) this is who I have found in the censuses in Croydon and Hackney with Annie L, mother Caroline Hutchings.
There are a few name coincidences which I know you shouldn't go by!! Annie had a brother Albert, and one Henry also and a sister Lilian.
My great grandmother (the elusive Annie) and Frank named their children Lilian, Edith, Albert and my grandfather was Frank Henry. SO the names do follow on but they also popular!!
We think Annie left around 1914/15 when my grandfather was around 3, he mentioned his sister Lilian who died when she was around 14, which I can't find, she would have been born in 1904/05. Also he never mentioned Albert so not sure if he died young (would have been born 1909/1910 )or did Annie take him with her, leaving my grandad, Edith and Lilian??!!! My grandfather was born in 1912 so not in 1911 census!!!

I know on 1911 that William and Sophie still in Bexhill, whilst Frank had obviously set up home back in Croydon with Annie.....61 Dominnion Road Addiscombe.
Thats all; I have I'm afraid!! Someone one told my mum that Annie was a nurse? but how true that is i don't know if that is her in 1901 census then she is only a servant. ANymore info you need I'll be happy to let you know!!! Thanks so much
Corinne

Hi Michelle Thanks so much for that, it could possibly be her as there doesn't seem to be any other Croydon born Hutchings, will try and get a closer look at it, just wish we'd found out more when my grandad and his sister were still alive, have a feeling my great aunt did find her as she knew she had died, but have no idea if she stayed a Lewis, remarried or went back to Hutchings or when she died! Hopefully we are nearer finding her and her family!!! Thanks again
Corinne x

Lynnette

I wonder if they lost the 1st child?Poss???

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Golden
Name: John Golden
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 13 (click to see others on page)

Chrissie

I think the age on the 1911 of Robert maybe wrong.I have worked hard on yours and the only family i can see that matches the info you gave me is the 1 i have mentioned to you.I will post this family on here in a little while for you to see.There are alot of matches...just a couple of the birthyears are not accurate.Does it say on the transcript how long the couple had been married?If not i think it would def be worth checking the image to see-cos it should be on 1 of the records...then i can look for the marriage.

Michelle

Lynnette

This could be him again on the 1891-listed as Golding-which you can see could easily be mistranscript or misheard spelling of Golden-especially with an accent.Its a huge record so if you don't mind will only give Thos and the head of house.

1891 England Census
about Thos Golding
Name: Thos Golding
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Male
Where born: Wicklow, Ireland

Civil Parish: Garston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Sawyer 37
Cath Sawyer 35
Elizh Sawyer 8
Richd J Sawyer 11/12
Rose A Sawyer 30
Mary A Sawyer 13
Clara Sawyer 7
Alfonsino Sawyer 6
William Sawyer 4
Margaret Sawyer 2
James Sawyer 2/12
Wm Morgan 23
Thos Golding 25

1891 England Census
about Richd Sawyer
Name: Richd Sawyer
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Cath
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Garston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Sawyer 37
Cath Sawyer 35
Elizh Sawyer 8
Richd J Sawyer 11/12
Rose A Sawyer 30
Mary A Sawyer 13
Clara Sawyer 7
Alfonsino Sawyer 6
William Sawyer 4
Margaret Sawyer 2
James Sawyer 2/12
Wm Morgan 23
Thos Golding 25

Richard a Brick Setter
Rose Husband a Sailor at Sea
William and Thos both Mariners (Thos single)

Address 15,Dingle Vale

Hi Michelle
Robert was born in 1902 according to the 1911 census, in Whitechurch/Shropshire, no i didnt check the image just the transcript,
CHRIS

Lynnette

1901 Poss continued....

1901 England Census
about Thos Golden
Name: Thos Golden
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Wicklow, Ireland

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

William a Master Mariner
Sophia a Housekeeper
Josephine a Teacher in a School
Thomas a Sailor

Can't quite make address out sorry.

Lynnette

I have found a poss for Thomas,however if i am right looks like he was born in Ireland

1901 England Census
about William Wall
Name: William Wall
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Wicklon, Ireland

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

1901 England Census
about Sophia Kearney
Name: Sophia Kearney
[Sophia Wall]
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Wicklon, Ireland

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

1901 England Census
about Josephine Kearney
Name: Josephine Kearney
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Sophia
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

1901 England Census
about Lavinia Kearney
Name: Lavinia Kearney
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Granddaughter
Mother's Name: Sophia
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

1901 England Census
about Jane Evers
Name: Jane Evers
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundalk, Scotland

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude and St Simon
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
William Wall 64
Sophia Kearney 44
Josephine Kearney 24
Lavinia Kearney 22
Jane Evers 20
Thos Golden 34

Continue....

I have a brick wall for you Michelle :)

I have had no luck with my Thomas Golden.

Thomas Golden was married March 15th, 1905 in Liverpool West Derby to Catherine Walsh.
Thomas was 38 putting his YOB at about 1867.
Catherine was 24 putting her YOB at about 1881.
Both were single and Thomas' Father's name was John Golden (deceased) and Catherine's Father's name was James Walsh (deceased).
Catherine was born in Ireland. Thomas as far as I have been told was born in England. The witness' were Margaret Ryan and Margaret Walsh (I'm assuming a sister).

Both Thomas and his father John are listed as Mariners.

The residences at the time of the marriage were:
Thomas - 41 Gillard in Kirkdale
Catherine - 38 Elstow in Kirkdale

Thomas and Catherine had at least one child (John Golden 1912) and possibly two others. They both lived in Walton West Derby in 1912 and Thomas is listed with an occupation of: Mariner Merchant Service.

I have had no luck in finding any Mariners with these time frames. I have found a Thomas age 4 and John age 38 in the 1871 Census.

Are you able to shed some light?