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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 26 Jan 2009 08:53

Beryl

Here is the 1861 for the couple

1861 England Census
about William F Johnson
Name: William F Johnson
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Walton On Thames, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 578
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 39
Sarah Johnson 40
Sarah A Johnson 7
Thomas Johnson 4
Alfred Johnson 2

1861 England Census
about Sarah Johnson
Name: Sarah Johnson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William F
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Leighs, Essex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 578
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 39
Sarah Johnson 40
Sarah A Johnson 7
Thomas Johnson 4
Alfred Johnson 2

1861 England Census
about Sarah A Johnson
Name: Sarah A Johnson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 578
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 39
Sarah Johnson 40
Sarah A Johnson 7
Thomas Johnson 4
Alfred Johnson 2

1861 England Census
about Thomas Johnson
Name: Thomas Johnson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 578
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 39
Sarah Johnson 40
Sarah A Johnson 7
Thomas Johnson 4
Alfred Johnson 2

1861 England Census
about Alfred Johnson
Name: Alfred Johnson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 578
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 39
Sarah Johnson 40
Sarah A Johnson 7
Thomas Johnson 4
Alfred Johnson 2

William a Housekeeper and Porter

Address 13 York Mews South














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 26 Jan 2009 08:48

Beryl

Hi and morning.Had a close look at the 1871 and i believe this is the family of Elizabeth Johnson.I think her father is William F Johnson and he may go by William or Frederick so i need to determine which is the middle name.She was a Servant on the 1881 and listed as married.

Here is the 1871

1871 England Census
about William F Johnson
Name: William F Johnson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Walton On Thames, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 49
Sarah Johnson 50
Elizabeth Johnson 9
Mary A Emery 18

1871 England Census
about Sarah Johnson
Name: Sarah Johnson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William F
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Lease, Essex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 49
Sarah Johnson 50
Elizabeth Johnson 9
Mary A Emery 18

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Johnson
Name: Elizabeth Johnson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William F
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 49
Sarah Johnson 50
Elizabeth Johnson 9
Mary A Emery 18

1871 England Census
about Mary A Emery
Name: Mary A Emery
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Great Waltham, Essex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: Rectory
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 162
Household Members: Name Age
William F Johnson 49
Sarah Johnson 50
Elizabeth Johnson 9
Mary A Emery 18

William a Porter
Sarah a Shirt Maker
Mary a Servant

Address hard to make out poss 13 York Mews


Sarah on the 1881

1881 England Census
about Sarah Johnson
Name: Sarah Johnson
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Leigh, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 16 Gt Cumberland Pl
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Gen Serv

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Bucey 24
Sarah Johnson 60
Samuel Hewitt 21

This is the rest of this household which is missing from record above,i have listed the head

1881 England Census
about Andrew C.M.M. Circhton
Name: Andrew C.M.M. Circhton
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Fife, Scotland

Civil Parish: Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 14 Gt Cumberland Pl
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Civil Service HM Exchequers Audit Dept

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew C.M.M. Circhton 35
George J. Butler 26
Emma Aken 31
Elizabeth S. Osmond 23

Will look for more



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 23:56

Beryl

Have had a look tonight,nothing as yet.I will look again tomorrow with a fresh mind!

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 23:29

Angela

Nothing on the Uk incoming for him sorry.He may have come in from Europe?These are not included on the list only internation incoming are.From places such as Australia,U.S.A,Brazil etc.

My advise would be to obtain this marriage cert and this will have his age at marriage,father's name and occupation.Also witnesses,if you are lucky a family member of his.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Serapio Arroyo
Name: Serapio Arroyo
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Burns
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 61 (click to see others on page)

a child of the couple

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Eleanor Arroyo
Name: Eleanor Arroyo
Year of Registration: 1921
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Burns
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 187 (click to see others on page)

Noticed someone on the 1891 with same surname listed as from Spain so maybe he had come in from Spain.Seems strange they married had a child in 1921 then she remarried???

Certs can be ordered online from www.gro.gov.uk

Cost of £7 per cert.

Good luck.



Angela

Angela Report 25 Jan 2009 22:03

hello michelle i hope you can help me i am looking for serapio arroyo he married lillian burns 1919give or take a year in liverpool then in 1921 lillian married axel petersen again in liverpool , we can not trace anything on serapio apart from the certificate of marriage do you think he could be on any passenger lists etc thankyou angela

Bezzie

Bezzie Report 25 Jan 2009 20:14

Hi Michelle, Could you please be so kind as to look up a Elizabeth Johnson born between JUL-SEP 1862 Marylebone, Middlesex, England. I know her father's name is Frederick Johnson but would like to know her mothers name and were there any other siblings? If you need to know anything else please email me [email protected] many thanks.

Sandra

Sandra Report 25 Jan 2009 19:47

Thankyou Michelle for all your help on the Topping family.

From Sandra

Scott

Scott Report 25 Jan 2009 15:28

Michelle,

All I can say is...wow!! That's fantastic! I can't believe how much information you have managed to find from the little information I have found. And yes - my family tree does seem to be really complicated! It's not the first time a confusing situation like the one you have found has come about.

Will now try and build some more of my family tree for Catherine with all the information you have given, which looking at it, is going to take me some time to digest.

Thank you once again for your help, and for how quick it was!!

Scott

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 11:12

Scott

here is the 1901 of Mary Ann Phillips(was Gurner).

1901 England Census
about Mary Ann Phillips
Name: Mary Ann Phillips
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Widow
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Cambridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Great
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Great
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Phillips 66

and finally here is the 1871 of Thomas who i believe could be the father of Catherine and Louisa and siblings with their mother-Mary Ann Gurner who later became Mary Ann Phillips

1871 England Census
about Thomas Gurner
Name: Thomas Gurner
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hauxton, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gurner 43
Mary Ann Gurner 35
Martha Gurner 16
Thomas Gurner 6
Eleanor Gurner 1

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Gurner
Name: Mary Ann Gurner
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gurner 43
Mary Ann Gurner 35
Martha Gurner 16
Thomas Gurner 6
Eleanor Gurner 1

1871 England Census
about Martha Gurner
Name: Martha Gurner
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dublin, Ireland
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gurner 43
Mary Ann Gurner 35
Martha Gurner 16
Thomas Gurner 6
Eleanor Gurner 1

1871 England Census
about Thomas Gurner
Name: Thomas Gurner
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gurner 43
Mary Ann Gurner 35
Martha Gurner 16
Thomas Gurner 6
Eleanor Gurner 1

1871 England Census
about Eleanor Gurner
Name: Eleanor Gurner
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 113
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Gurner 43
Mary Ann Gurner 35
Martha Gurner 16
Thomas Gurner 6
Eleanor Gurner 1

Thomas a Labourer

Address 89 New Street-Same road Robert Phillips lived in 1871.



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 11:03

Scott

Wow!what a complex family the Gurner's were!I have been looking at the census records trying to work out how the Phillips family connect to Catherine.Robert i believe was Step father to Catherine and her sisters.Mary Ann Gurner was there mother.

This is confusing but i will try my best to explain it.I found a Thomas and Mary Ann Gurner on the 1871 with a daughter called Eleanor aged 1.I believe this could be Louisa Gurner from the 1881.Maybe her middle name was Eleanor?Thomas Gurner died in 1876

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Gurner
Name: Thomas Gurner
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Year of Registration: 1876
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 49
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 303 (click to see others on page)

I then noticed that his wife Mary Ann remarried in 1877

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Mary Ann Gurner 1877 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire
View Record

Robert Phillips 1877 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Mary Ann Gurner
Name: Mary Ann Gurner
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 655 (click to see others on page)

Hope you with me....?It is confusing.Ok Robert was married before and he was married to a Mary before.This is Robert on the 1871 with his wife Mary who was more his age and there son Robert.

1871 England Census
about Robert Phillips
Name: Robert Phillips
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 68
Mary Phillips 70
Robert Phillips 35

1871 England Census
about Mary Phillips
Name: Mary Phillips
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 68
Mary Phillips 70
Robert Phillips 35

1871 England Census
about Robert Phillips
Name: Robert Phillips
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 68
Mary Phillips 70
Robert Phillips 35

Robert a Scissors Grinder
Robert a Tinman

Address 32 New Street

Robert died i believe in 1899

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Robert Phillips
Name: Robert Phillips
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 86
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 291 (click to see others on page)




















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 10:18

Scott

Your next step now is to obtain certs.I would advise to get the marriage cert of 1891 1st.Then i would obtain the birth cert of Charles Gurner to see who his father was

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Arthur B Gurner
Name: Charles Arthur B Gurner
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 473 (click to see others on page)

The marriage and birth cert will both confirm Catherine's surname also.The marriage cert will list the father of Charles Blank.


I have not been able to see Charles's entrance into the UK???

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 10:02

Scott

Looking at the 1891 i have found Catherine again and she is still with Grandparents although listed as Garner now!!Couldn't see Louisa on the 1871 although will go back and look again.

1891 England Census
about Robert Phillips
Name: Robert Phillips
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 78
Mary A Phillips 55
Catherine Garner 18
Charles B Garner 1

1891 England Census
about Mary A Phillips
Name: Mary A Phillips
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 78
Mary A Phillips 55
Catherine Garner 18
Charles B Garner 1

1891 England Census
about Catherine Garner
Name: Catherine Garner
[Catherine Phillips]
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary A
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 78
Mary A Phillips 55
Catherine Garner 18
Charles B Garner 1

1891 England Census
about Charles B Garner
Name: Charles B Garner
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Cambridge
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 78
Mary A Phillips 55
Catherine Garner 18
Charles B Garner 1

Robert a Cutler
Mary a Charwoman

Address 1 Vicarage Terrace


Well how confusing!!Grandaughter and now daughter,i suspect this is because she now has a child.So looks like her eledest child from the 1901 was born out of wedlock.You would need to get the birth cert of Charles to see whether it is your Charles Blanks son-as he is named Charles i suspect so.Catherine and Charles married shortly after this census.













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 09:45

Scott

Here is the birth record of Louisa sister of Catherine

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Louisa Gurner
Name: Louisa Gurner
Year of Registration: 1870
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 535 (click to see others on page)

Here is Catherine's birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Catherine Gurner
Name: Catherine Gurner
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 541 (click to see others on page)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 09:36

Scott

1881 Continued for Catherine

1881 England Census
about Tomas Gurner
Name: Tomas Gurner
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

1881 England Census
about Amy J. Porter
Name: Amy J. Porter
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

On the Census image the Gurner children are all listed as Grandchildren of the Head of house Robert Phillips.I presume the children's mother's father?I will look back on the 1871 to see if i can find Louisa Gurner.







***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 09:32

Scott

Good morning!Well i have had a close look at the marriage record i found yesterday and i think the surname for Catherine is Gurner and not Gurnes!I have done a search of 1881 for a Catherine Gurner and i found a match which looks like the 1901 Catherine who is married to Charles

1881 England Census
about Robert Phillips
Name: Robert Phillips
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Grinder (22.2)

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

1881 England Census
about Mary A. Phillips
Name: Mary A. Phillips
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

1881 England Census
about Martha Porter
Name: Martha Porter
[Martha Phillips]
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Female
Where born: Dublin, Ireland

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

1881 England Census
about Louisa Gurner
Name: Louisa Gurner
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

1881 England Census
about Catherine Gurner
Name: Catherine Gurner
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 Custom Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Cambridge
Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Phillips 65
Mary A. Phillips 45
Martha Porter 26
Louisa Gurner 11
Catherine Gurner 8
Tomas Gurner 5
Amy J. Porter 2

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Louisa

Louisa Report 25 Jan 2009 09:31

Hi Michelle,

Thanks very much for your help with Edward and Ada Hensby. I will see what else I can find on the certs with your info. The 1903/1904 birth year seems to be the key.!

Louisa

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 01:56

Scott

Good eve Scott!Well lets see if i can help you with getting more info on Charles and Catherine.

I found a poss marriage.Great,but i think the Catherine's surname has been mistranscribed.

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Charles Frederick Blanks 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire

Catharine Gurnes 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire
View Record

Katherine Gurnes 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Charles Frederick Blanks
Name: Charles Frederick Blanks
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Cambridge (1837-1935)
County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 929 (click to see others on page)

Will take a check on this marriage tomorrow to see if i can match who Catherine is??I think the surname may have a transcript error and also i will check the passenger list as i am really tired now.

Michelle


Scott

Scott Report 25 Jan 2009 01:13

Hi Michelle

Wondered if you could help with some searches. I am looking for the parents of a Charles F Blanks (born c1869, South Africa) and his with Catherine (born c1873, Cambridge UK). They are both in the 1901 census, living in Cambridge with thier children, Alfrance, Charles, George, Margarat and Martha.
With Charles Blanks seeming to have moved to the UK from South Africa maybe with his parents, and not knowing Catherine's maiden name, I have got stuck with my little amount of knowledge of knowing where to look. You mentioned in a previous post you may have access to some lists of people migrating here? I really am stuck, are you able to help at all and point me in the right direction?

Many thanks
Scott

David & Jan

David & Jan Report 25 Jan 2009 01:06

Thank you so much Michelle

They are the same person - the younger one.

Great help thank you

Jan Donegani

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 25 Jan 2009 01:00

Jan

Hi and good eve!Here are the records you requested

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Lewis Donegani
Name: Lewis Donegani
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 48
Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1954
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: St John, New Brunswick
Ship Name: Empress of France
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 160482

Lewis-Proposed address in UK was Watling Street,Grange,St Georges,Oakengalis,Shropshire.
Listed as a Farmer
Country of last residence was Canada
Attended future residence will be in other parts of British Empire.



Lewis T Donegani

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Lewis T Donegani
Name: Lewis T Donegani
Birth Date: abt 1906
Age: 20
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 27 Nov 1926
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Montcalm
Search Ship Database: View the 'Montcalm' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line
Official Number: 145903


Proposed address in UK St,Georges,Wellington
Listed as a Farmer
Country of last residence is Canada


Hope that is useful to you.


Michelle