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26 Jan 2009 08:53 |
Beryl
Here is the 1861 for the couple
1861 England Census about William F Johnson Name: William F Johnson Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Walton On Thames, Surrey, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 578 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 39 Sarah Johnson 40 Sarah A Johnson 7 Thomas Johnson 4 Alfred Johnson 2
1861 England Census about Sarah Johnson Name: Sarah Johnson Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William F Gender: Female Where born: Little Leighs, Essex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 578 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 39 Sarah Johnson 40 Sarah A Johnson 7 Thomas Johnson 4 Alfred Johnson 2
1861 England Census about Sarah A Johnson Name: Sarah A Johnson Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William F Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 578 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 39 Sarah Johnson 40 Sarah A Johnson 7 Thomas Johnson 4 Alfred Johnson 2
1861 England Census about Thomas Johnson Name: Thomas Johnson Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Son Father's Name: William F Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 578 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 39 Sarah Johnson 40 Sarah A Johnson 7 Thomas Johnson 4 Alfred Johnson 2
1861 England Census about Alfred Johnson Name: Alfred Johnson Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: William F Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 578 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 39 Sarah Johnson 40 Sarah A Johnson 7 Thomas Johnson 4 Alfred Johnson 2
William a Housekeeper and Porter
Address 13 York Mews South
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26 Jan 2009 08:48 |
Beryl
Hi and morning.Had a close look at the 1871 and i believe this is the family of Elizabeth Johnson.I think her father is William F Johnson and he may go by William or Frederick so i need to determine which is the middle name.She was a Servant on the 1881 and listed as married.
Here is the 1871
1871 England Census about William F Johnson Name: William F Johnson Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Walton On Thames, Surrey, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 49 Sarah Johnson 50 Elizabeth Johnson 9 Mary A Emery 18
1871 England Census about Sarah Johnson Name: Sarah Johnson Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William F Gender: Female Where born: Little Lease, Essex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 49 Sarah Johnson 50 Elizabeth Johnson 9 Mary A Emery 18
1871 England Census about Elizabeth Johnson Name: Elizabeth Johnson Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William F Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 49 Sarah Johnson 50 Elizabeth Johnson 9 Mary A Emery 18
1871 England Census about Mary A Emery Name: Mary A Emery Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Great Waltham, Essex, England Civil Parish: St Marylebone Ecclesiastical parish: Rectory County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: Rectory ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 162 Household Members: Name Age William F Johnson 49 Sarah Johnson 50 Elizabeth Johnson 9 Mary A Emery 18
William a Porter Sarah a Shirt Maker Mary a Servant
Address hard to make out poss 13 York Mews
Sarah on the 1881
1881 England Census about Sarah Johnson Name: Sarah Johnson Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Little Leigh, Essex, England Civil Parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 16 Gt Cumberland Pl Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Gen Serv Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Fanny Bucey 24 Sarah Johnson 60 Samuel Hewitt 21
This is the rest of this household which is missing from record above,i have listed the head
1881 England Census about Andrew C.M.M. Circhton Name: Andrew C.M.M. Circhton Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Fife, Scotland Civil Parish: Marylebone County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 14 Gt Cumberland Pl Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Civil Service HM Exchequers Audit Dept Registration district: Marylebone Sub registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Andrew C.M.M. Circhton 35 George J. Butler 26 Emma Aken 31 Elizabeth S. Osmond 23
Will look for more
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25 Jan 2009 23:56 |
Beryl
Have had a look tonight,nothing as yet.I will look again tomorrow with a fresh mind!
Michelle
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25 Jan 2009 23:29 |
Angela
Nothing on the Uk incoming for him sorry.He may have come in from Europe?These are not included on the list only internation incoming are.From places such as Australia,U.S.A,Brazil etc.
My advise would be to obtain this marriage cert and this will have his age at marriage,father's name and occupation.Also witnesses,if you are lucky a family member of his.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Serapio Arroyo Name: Serapio Arroyo Year of Registration: 1919 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's Surname: Burns District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 61 (click to see others on page)
a child of the couple
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Eleanor Arroyo Name: Eleanor Arroyo Year of Registration: 1921 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's Maiden Name: Burns District: Liverpool (1837-1934) County: Lancashire Volume: 8b Page: 187 (click to see others on page)
Noticed someone on the 1891 with same surname listed as from Spain so maybe he had come in from Spain.Seems strange they married had a child in 1921 then she remarried???
Certs can be ordered online from www.gro.gov.uk
Cost of £7 per cert.
Good luck.
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25 Jan 2009 22:03 |
hello michelle i hope you can help me i am looking for serapio arroyo he married lillian burns 1919give or take a year in liverpool then in 1921 lillian married axel petersen again in liverpool , we can not trace anything on serapio apart from the certificate of marriage do you think he could be on any passenger lists etc thankyou angela
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25 Jan 2009 20:14 |
Hi Michelle, Could you please be so kind as to look up a Elizabeth Johnson born between JUL-SEP 1862 Marylebone, Middlesex, England. I know her father's name is Frederick Johnson but would like to know her mothers name and were there any other siblings? If you need to know anything else please email me [email protected] many thanks.
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25 Jan 2009 19:47 |
Thankyou Michelle for all your help on the Topping family.
From Sandra
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25 Jan 2009 15:28 |
Michelle,
All I can say is...wow!! That's fantastic! I can't believe how much information you have managed to find from the little information I have found. And yes - my family tree does seem to be really complicated! It's not the first time a confusing situation like the one you have found has come about.
Will now try and build some more of my family tree for Catherine with all the information you have given, which looking at it, is going to take me some time to digest.
Thank you once again for your help, and for how quick it was!!
Scott
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***Michelle***
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25 Jan 2009 11:12 |
Scott
here is the 1901 of Mary Ann Phillips(was Gurner).
1901 England Census about Mary Ann Phillips Name: Mary Ann Phillips Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Widow Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Cambridge Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Great County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Great ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Phillips 66
and finally here is the 1871 of Thomas who i believe could be the father of Catherine and Louisa and siblings with their mother-Mary Ann Gurner who later became Mary Ann Phillips
1871 England Census about Thomas Gurner Name: Thomas Gurner Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Hauxton, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gurner 43 Mary Ann Gurner 35 Martha Gurner 16 Thomas Gurner 6 Eleanor Gurner 1
1871 England Census about Mary Ann Gurner Name: Mary Ann Gurner Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Thomas Gender: Female Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gurner 43 Mary Ann Gurner 35 Martha Gurner 16 Thomas Gurner 6 Eleanor Gurner 1
1871 England Census about Martha Gurner Name: Martha Gurner Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Dublin, Ireland Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gurner 43 Mary Ann Gurner 35 Martha Gurner 16 Thomas Gurner 6 Eleanor Gurner 1
1871 England Census about Thomas Gurner Name: Thomas Gurner Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gurner 43 Mary Ann Gurner 35 Martha Gurner 16 Thomas Gurner 6 Eleanor Gurner 1
1871 England Census about Eleanor Gurner Name: Eleanor Gurner Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 113 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Gurner 43 Mary Ann Gurner 35 Martha Gurner 16 Thomas Gurner 6 Eleanor Gurner 1
Thomas a Labourer
Address 89 New Street-Same road Robert Phillips lived in 1871.
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25 Jan 2009 11:03 |
Scott
Wow!what a complex family the Gurner's were!I have been looking at the census records trying to work out how the Phillips family connect to Catherine.Robert i believe was Step father to Catherine and her sisters.Mary Ann Gurner was there mother.
This is confusing but i will try my best to explain it.I found a Thomas and Mary Ann Gurner on the 1871 with a daughter called Eleanor aged 1.I believe this could be Louisa Gurner from the 1881.Maybe her middle name was Eleanor?Thomas Gurner died in 1876
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Thomas Gurner Name: Thomas Gurner Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Year of Registration: 1876 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 49 District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 303 (click to see others on page) I then noticed that his wife Mary Ann remarried in 1877
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record
Mary Ann Gurner 1877 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire View Record Robert Phillips 1877 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Ann Gurner Name: Mary Ann Gurner Year of Registration: 1877 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 655 (click to see others on page)
Hope you with me....?It is confusing.Ok Robert was married before and he was married to a Mary before.This is Robert on the 1871 with his wife Mary who was more his age and there son Robert.
1871 England Census about Robert Phillips Name: Robert Phillips Age: 68 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 68 Mary Phillips 70 Robert Phillips 35
1871 England Census about Mary Phillips Name: Mary Phillips Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 68 Mary Phillips 70 Robert Phillips 35
1871 England Census about Robert Phillips Name: Robert Phillips Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 68 Mary Phillips 70 Robert Phillips 35
Robert a Scissors Grinder Robert a Tinman
Address 32 New Street
Robert died i believe in 1899
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Robert Phillips Name: Robert Phillips Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 86 District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 291 (click to see others on page)
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25 Jan 2009 10:18 |
Scott
Your next step now is to obtain certs.I would advise to get the marriage cert of 1891 1st.Then i would obtain the birth cert of Charles Gurner to see who his father was
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Charles Arthur B Gurner Name: Charles Arthur B Gurner Year of Registration: 1890 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 473 (click to see others on page)
The marriage and birth cert will both confirm Catherine's surname also.The marriage cert will list the father of Charles Blank.
I have not been able to see Charles's entrance into the UK???
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25 Jan 2009 10:02 |
Scott
Looking at the 1891 i have found Catherine again and she is still with Grandparents although listed as Garner now!!Couldn't see Louisa on the 1871 although will go back and look again.
1891 England Census about Robert Phillips Name: Robert Phillips Age: 78 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 78 Mary A Phillips 55 Catherine Garner 18 Charles B Garner 1
1891 England Census about Mary A Phillips Name: Mary A Phillips Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 78 Mary A Phillips 55 Catherine Garner 18 Charles B Garner 1
1891 England Census about Catherine Garner Name: Catherine Garner [Catherine Phillips] Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 78 Mary A Phillips 55 Catherine Garner 18 Charles B Garner 1
1891 England Census about Charles B Garner Name: Charles B Garner Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Catherine Gender: Male Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew Town: Cambridge County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 78 Mary A Phillips 55 Catherine Garner 18 Charles B Garner 1
Robert a Cutler Mary a Charwoman
Address 1 Vicarage Terrace
Well how confusing!!Grandaughter and now daughter,i suspect this is because she now has a child.So looks like her eledest child from the 1901 was born out of wedlock.You would need to get the birth cert of Charles to see whether it is your Charles Blanks son-as he is named Charles i suspect so.Catherine and Charles married shortly after this census.
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25 Jan 2009 09:45 |
Scott
Here is the birth record of Louisa sister of Catherine
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Louisa Gurner Name: Louisa Gurner Year of Registration: 1870 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 535 (click to see others on page) Here is Catherine's birth record
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Catherine Gurner Name: Catherine Gurner Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 541 (click to see others on page)
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25 Jan 2009 09:36 |
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1881 Continued for Catherine
1881 England Census about Tomas Gurner Name: Tomas Gurner Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
1881 England Census about Amy J. Porter Name: Amy J. Porter Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
On the Census image the Gurner children are all listed as Grandchildren of the Head of house Robert Phillips.I presume the children's mother's father?I will look back on the 1871 to see if i can find Louisa Gurner.
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25 Jan 2009 09:32 |
Scott
Good morning!Well i have had a close look at the marriage record i found yesterday and i think the surname for Catherine is Gurner and not Gurnes!I have done a search of 1881 for a Catherine Gurner and i found a match which looks like the 1901 Catherine who is married to Charles
1881 England Census about Robert Phillips Name: Robert Phillips Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A. Gender: Male Where born: Landbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Grinder (22.2) Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
1881 England Census about Mary A. Phillips Name: Mary A. Phillips Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Robert Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Charwoman Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
1881 England Census about Martha Porter Name: Martha Porter [Martha Phillips] Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Mary A. Gender: Female Where born: Dublin, Ireland Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Charwoman Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
1881 England Census about Louisa Gurner Name: Louisa Gurner Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870 Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
1881 England Census about Catherine Gurner Name: Catherine Gurner Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Gender: Female Where born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address: 1 Custom Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Cambridge Sub registration district: St Andrew the Less ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Robert Phillips 65 Mary A. Phillips 45 Martha Porter 26 Louisa Gurner 11 Catherine Gurner 8 Tomas Gurner 5 Amy J. Porter 2
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25 Jan 2009 09:31 |
Hi Michelle,
Thanks very much for your help with Edward and Ada Hensby. I will see what else I can find on the certs with your info. The 1903/1904 birth year seems to be the key.!
Louisa
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25 Jan 2009 01:56 |
Scott
Good eve Scott!Well lets see if i can help you with getting more info on Charles and Catherine.
I found a poss marriage.Great,but i think the Catherine's surname has been mistranscribed.
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record Charles Frederick Blanks 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire
Catharine Gurnes 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire View Record
Katherine Gurnes 1891 Cambridge (1837-1935) Cambridgeshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Charles Frederick Blanks Name: Charles Frederick Blanks Year of Registration: 1891 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Cambridge (1837-1935) County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 929 (click to see others on page)
Will take a check on this marriage tomorrow to see if i can match who Catherine is??I think the surname may have a transcript error and also i will check the passenger list as i am really tired now.
Michelle
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25 Jan 2009 01:13 |
Hi Michelle
Wondered if you could help with some searches. I am looking for the parents of a Charles F Blanks (born c1869, South Africa) and his with Catherine (born c1873, Cambridge UK). They are both in the 1901 census, living in Cambridge with thier children, Alfrance, Charles, George, Margarat and Martha. With Charles Blanks seeming to have moved to the UK from South Africa maybe with his parents, and not knowing Catherine's maiden name, I have got stuck with my little amount of knowledge of knowing where to look. You mentioned in a previous post you may have access to some lists of people migrating here? I really am stuck, are you able to help at all and point me in the right direction?
Many thanks Scott
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25 Jan 2009 01:06 |
Thank you so much Michelle
They are the same person - the younger one.
Great help thank you
Jan Donegani
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25 Jan 2009 01:00 |
Jan
Hi and good eve!Here are the records you requested
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Lewis Donegani Name: Lewis Donegani Birth Date: abt 1906 Age: 48 Port of Departure: St John, New Brunswick, Canada Arrival Date: 24 Mar 1954 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: St John, New Brunswick Ship Name: Empress of France Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of France' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Official Number: 160482
Lewis-Proposed address in UK was Watling Street,Grange,St Georges,Oakengalis,Shropshire. Listed as a Farmer Country of last residence was Canada Attended future residence will be in other parts of British Empire.
Lewis T Donegani
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Lewis T Donegani Name: Lewis T Donegani Birth Date: abt 1906 Age: 20 Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada Arrival Date: 27 Nov 1926 Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England Ports of Voyage: Quebec Ship Name: Montcalm Search Ship Database: View the 'Montcalm' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Steamship Line Official Number: 145903
Proposed address in UK St,Georges,Wellington Listed as a Farmer Country of last residence is Canada
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Michelle
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