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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 20:56

Corinne

There was a couple of marriage possibles for Lilian but i wasn't sure enough to give them.If you have Ancestry take a look or if not try free BMD to see them.

Really glad i managed to find some of them for you.Took ages.

Take care and you know where to find me if you need help again and also let me know re the certs when you get them.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 20:46

Christine

I don't remember seeing it??Did u place a thread on here or pm me?If you wouldn't mind putting names and birthyears and districts-county of birthplace down again please i will take a look.

Sorry i really don't remember seeing it?

Michelle

Christine

Christine Report 4 Feb 2009 20:39

Hi Michelle,
I can see you are busy but if you could post the 1851 census for Pow I would be grateful.

Christine

Corinne

Corinne Report 4 Feb 2009 19:27

Hi Michelle
Thanks so much for that!! I will copy it all down and have a good route through, its sad that they all were living with different people!!! I have ordered Albert (the dads) death cert also Albert and Carolines marriage cert, i may see if i can track Lilian somehow!!! You've been a great help thanks so much, will let you know how the next piece of the puzzle goes!!! I still can't find that Lilian Lewis death c 1918/20 in Croydon will keep pursuing!!!!
Thanks again
Corinne

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 15:57

Antigone

If you don't mind waiting i will take a look again.I have to go into work tonight and won't be home till near 9pm.I have a few waiting to be done 1st and then will look at your again,may not get round to it till Thurs.I was confused by the 1881.Its poss that John was elsewhere or maybe he was born late 1881?He could have been Margaret's son?Lots of maybe!!!I can't promise you i can solve it but i will have a good look.

Michelle

Angela

Angela Report 4 Feb 2009 15:10

hi michelle just in from work busy day picked daughter up whos two as well from mums hope yours had a lovely birthday olive was morton and was born october 1920/21 i hope you do find mary for me do you know if rainhill hospital would have any files somewhere ?i could try and go when off work in a weeks time cant wait.hope to hear from you later if you have time thanks again angela

Antigone

Antigone Report 4 Feb 2009 12:46

Hi Michelle,

Still wondering about the mystery of the marriage of Thomas Reid and Margaret and why Thomas is listed as married to Mary Ann Reid in 1881 and with no child. Is it possible that Mary Anne died and Thomas married Margaret and adopted John ? I am assuming that no divorces were involved as they were staunch Catholics. Have tried looking for death of Mary Ann but wondered if you would have a look for me?

Many thanks

Antigone

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 12:29

Angela

Re Morton etc

I will be on your lookup next...won't be till later today as i am off out.
Just wanted you to know i hadn't forgotten you.Do you know where Olive was born and what was her surname-Morton or Beech?

Michelle : )

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 12:27

Angie

Will take a look for you later today as i am off out for a while as it's my mums birthday.

Michelle : )

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 11:44

Corinne

Only poss on the 1911 for a Caroline-under transcript error?Living in Chester?

HOUSEHOLD HUCTHING CAROLINE Female 1851 age 60 living in district Chester Cheshire

Can't check the transcript i have no credits.Sorry.

More on previous page for you so make sure to check back over the previous page.

angie2405

angie2405 Report 4 Feb 2009 11:37

Morning Mchelle

I found another of my families on the 1881 & 1911 Census [its good job its free to view lol]

William Postles & Frances Pickering Alcock were married in 1877

1881 Census living at 24 Winnington Park, Winnington, Cheshire
Wm Postles / Head / 23 / b Davenham/ occ Boiler Maker Unemployed
Fanny P Postles / Wife / 19 / b Gt Budworth, / occ - Boiler Maker Wife
Ellen Postles / daur / 3 / b Gt Budworth
Thos Postles / son / 2 / b Gt Budworth
George H Postles / son / less than 12mnths / Gt Budworth

1911 Census living in Northwich
William Postles 54
Fanny Pickering Postles 51
Fanny Postles 24
James Postles 21
Louie Ferguson Postles 10

Plese could you see if you can find them on the 1891 and 1901 census ?

Many thanks

Angie

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 11:37

Corinne

Poss death for Caroline??I couldn't see her on the 1911 but she maybe mistranscribed.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Caroline Hutchings
Name: Caroline Hutchings
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 61
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 214 (click to see others on page)

There is also 1 in Dartford kent in 1914?

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 11:18

Corinne

Albert J dies late 1901

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 48
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 367 (click to see others on page)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 11:17

Corinne

Albert is listed as married still on the 1901.He has a housekeeper with him and cos Lilian is with Uncle it makes me wonder if Caroline was either in hospital or out of the country?

1901 England Census
about Albert Hutchings
Name: Albert Hutchings
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Homerton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 104
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Hutchings 48
Mary Fouke 50
Alfred Fouke 22

Albert married and a Master Builder
Mary Housekeeper
Alfred Labourer

Address 9 and 11 Marlow Rd

The only poss i could see for Caroline is a 1849 Caroline

1901 England Census
about Caroline Hatchins
Name: Caroline Hatchins
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Croydon, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Homerton
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Hatchins 55

Image could be Hutchings...listed as wife...no other people with her??

Address 175 Morning Lane

haven't seen this lady on previous census records yet?








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 10:45

Yvonne

Here you go...Robina down as Thurburn-transcript error.

Robina Thurburn 1880 Tynemouth Northumberland

John Wilson 1880 Tynemouth Northumberland

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Wilson
Name: John Wilson
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 251 (click to see others on page)



***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 10:29

Corinne

Here is what looks like the death of Albert J 1876

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Albert James Hutchings
Name: Albert James Hutchings
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 21
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 334 (click to see others on page)

DoctorWho

DoctorWho Report 4 Feb 2009 10:24

Hi Michelle

Please could you help me find a marriage certificate for John Wilson (1861) born Blyth, Northumberland and Robina Thorburn (1863) born Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland on her birth cert it says her father is Robert Thorburn. I have found them on the 1881 Census as married with a one year old daughter, living at 3 Beaumont St. but when I have looked the marriage up on Scotlands People it is coming up with no trace, I have tried looking it up on GR with no luck either.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

Yvonne

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 09:46

Corinne

1901 continued for Lilian

1901 England Census
about Lilian Hutching
Name: Lilian Hutching
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: Hackney, London, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St John the Baptist
Town: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hutching 42
Annie Hutching 41
Annie Hutching 16
Alexander Hutching 15
Lilian Hutching 12


Charles a Livery Porter

Address 57 Alexandra Road.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 09:44

Corinne

I have found Lilian 1889 she is with her Uncle on the 1901.Her Uncle is Charles Hutchings...he is under Charles Hutching on the 1901.He is Albert's brother.Here is Charles on the 1861 showing he is brother of Albert

1861 England Census
about Charley Hutchings
Name: Charley Hutchings
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Fareham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Fareham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Fareham
Sub registration district: Fareham
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
John Hutchings 33
Sarah Hutchings 30
Albert Hutchings 8
Edward Hutchings 5
Charley Hutchings 2
Jane Hutchings 3 Mo
Maria Bath 16
Henry Carter 30

And here is the 1901...Lilian is wrongly transcibed as Aunt to Charles!

1901 England Census
about Charles Hutching
Name: Charles Hutching
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St John the Baptist
Town: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hutching 42
Annie Hutching 41
Annie Hutching 16
Alexander Hutching 15
Lilian Hutching 12

1901 England Census
about Annie Hutching
Name: Annie Hutching
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St John the Baptist
Town: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hutching 42
Annie Hutching 41
Annie Hutching 16
Alexander Hutching 15
Lilian Hutching 12

1901 England Census
about Annie Hutching
Name: Annie Hutching
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St John the Baptist
Town: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hutching 42
Annie Hutching 41
Annie Hutching 16
Alexander Hutching 15
Lilian Hutching 12

1901 England Census
about Alexander Hutching
Name: Alexander Hutching
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Pimlico, London, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints and St John the Baptist
Town: New Windsor
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Windsor
Sub registration district: Windsor
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Hutching 42
Annie Hutching 41
Annie Hutching 16
Alexander Hutching 15
Lilian Hutching 12

Continue....














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 4 Feb 2009 09:18

Corinne

Hi Corinne and that's great news re the certs,so glad they were the right 1's!!

You can when ordering certs ask for them to be cross checked against parents names when ordering online i believe you just tick the boss and indicate the cross check.They will not send if their is no match.

Here is Caroline's marriage record

Albert James Hutchings 1873 Croydon Greater London, Kent, Surrey
View Record
Caroline Roff 1873 Croydon Greater London, Kent, Surrey

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Caroline Roff
Name: Caroline Roff
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 270 (click to see others on page)

Here she is on the 1891

1891 England Census
about Caroline Hutchings
Name: Caroline Hutchings
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Albert J
Gender: Female
Where born: Croydon

Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: South Hackney Ward
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: South Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert J Hutchings 38
Caroline Hutchings 40
Albert J Hutchings 14
Annie L Hutchings 11
Henry C Hutchings 6
Lilian H Hutchings 2

Will check 1901 and for poss death now.