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Yvonne

This could be a poss?

Thomas Dowsey 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

Mary Elizabeth Sloan 1872 Whitehaven Cumbria, Cumberland

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Dowsey
Name: Thomas Dowsey
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Whitehaven
County: Cumbria, Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 1061 (click to see others on page)

Poss 1881

1881 England Census
about Mary E. Dowsey
Name: Mary E. Dowsey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Wife (Head) (Head)
Gender: Female
Where born: Egremont, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whitehaven
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: 1 Glass Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary E. Dowsey 35
Isabella Dowsey 5

1881 England Census
about Isabella Dowsey
Name: Isabella Dowsey
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary E.
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whitehaven
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: 1 Glass Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary E. Dowsey 35
Isabella Dowsey 5

Poss 1891 Unsure where Isabella is??

1891 England Census
about Mary Dowsey
Name: Mary Dowsey
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Egremont, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whitehaven
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bees
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Dowsey 44
George Dowsey 8

1891 England Census
about George Dowsey
Name: George Dowsey
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Whitehaven
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bees
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Dowsey 44
George Dowsey 8

Mary married no husband there again??What was his occupation?do you know?Was he a Sailor?

Address 1 Bowes Court

1901 sees her as a Widow.

This i think is her husband when he was young

1861 England Census
about Thomas Dowsey
Name: Thomas Dowsey
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitehaven, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: St Bees
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Whitehaven
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Whitehaven
Sub registration district: Whitehaven
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 102
Household Members: Name Age
William Dowsey 46
Eleanor Dowsey 48
Hannah Graves 22
William Dowsey 19
Thomas Dowsey 12
Henry Dowsey 10
Jane H Dowsey 7
Jane Graves 3

William a ....Mariner!!I wonder if Thomas was 1??Would explain why i can't find him..
Hannah Soldiers Wife
William Son a Mariner in the Navy
Thomas a Coal Miner??Maybe he was a Mariner when he was old enough???

Address looks like Ribton Lane

I can't see a death for him at mo??

Prob is them are 2 Thomas's 1 who married Mary Agnes and the other who married Mary Elizabeth!!So might be an idea to get the marriage cert for the couple.Cos the 1861 i found could be the other 1.

shame you can't read the maiden name.Could it be Sloan?

Angela

Thanks for info and could you tell me when she died?Also how do you know of the Cursley surname?I was wondering cos if the spelling is wrong finding the marriage will be near impossible.

Thanks
Michelle

Don't worry we will find something!!I have been really busy today and had to go to work tonight so haven't had much free time to look.

Alan

Hi there Alan,sorry no i haven't.Some counties have good online resources but Staffs not in the top list sadly!

Alan,i know you prob have but have you contacted Staffs records office?Could they not help?

Staffordshire Record Office
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Stafford

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Archive enquiries
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Also you could try this lady

Parish Register Look-ups in Staffordshire County Records Office
(SPECIFIC queries in PARISH REGISTERS only) Ann Sumner

On this site: http://freespace.virgin.net/willen.hall/sts.html

Its the Staffordshire lookup exchange and appears Ann does lookups of Parish Records at the Records Office.Might be worth a try Alan?

Best of luck to you i really wish i could help.I have good resources for many counties but not Staffs.

Michelle

her maiden name was beech then she married and became cursley then in 1912 she had mary and was morton im trying to search for the marriage records she died morton she marrried robert morton thanks this is a tricky one

Angela

have you any idea what order the surname went in?We know Beech maiden name,what was next?What surname did she die in?and do you know when she died?

Thanks
Michelle

Hi Michelle, Thank you so much for all the information on the Hobbins-you've tracked back my great grandfather (William) and great great grandfather Josiah. I think the long list of names is something to do with barracks-it says Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines. William went on to be in the Royal Marines as did his son Stanley (my grandfather).
You must have been so busy today as I noticed all todays information you've put on. You must be exhausted!! I have had a good day sorting all my notes as we have been snowed in!!
Thanks again
Chris

Hi Michelle

ooooooooooohhhh how wonderful ! Al that information has helped me an awful lot :)

Thank you, thank you

Regards

Angie

Hi Michelle

Wonder if you can help me, my friend has been trying to find her fathers birth with no success, I too have tried and come to a dead end.

John Edward Badger born 1899
his father
Alan Badger
mother
Mary Holroyd Haywood born 25-7-1857
believed to have lived in Rotherham

Any help would be gratefully received
Thanking you in anticipation
Christine

Chris

Here is the marriage of the couple

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Josiah Hobbins
Name: Josiah Hobbins
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 7
Page: 279 (click to see others on page)

Sarah Anne Phillips 1843 Portsea Island (1837-1900) Hampshire


Josiah Stobbins 1843 Portsea Island (1837-1900) Hampshire



I have to go to work now.As yet can't see him on the 1841....maybe at sea if he was in the Royal Navy?Also death of Emily a mystery???Will get back to this later tonight when i get back from work.

Michelle

hi michelle late in today you are right mary was married before she had the children her maiden name was beech we think before she became morton her married name was cursley if spelt right her maiden name was definately beech though and all those names were correct my nan can remember a step sister being older than her called constance and she looked after them when mary was admitted to rainhill mary died in the hospital im not too sure though as her name would of been constance cursley and i can not trace her thankyou for your time and hopefully we will find constance between us angela

Chris

1851 continued for Josiah

1851 England Census
about Charles Waller Hobbens
Name: Charles Waller Hobbens
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Gender: Male
Where born: Forton Nr Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Forton St John
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Brickdale 49
Sarah Brickdale 48
Sarah Ann Brickdale 16
Emma Brickdale 13
Eliza Brickdale 11
William H Brickdale 7
Matthew Brickdale 6
James Guy Snape 51
Maria Snape 46
Alfred Chas Snape 22
Selena Snape 13
Charles Wesley Snape 11
James Samie Snape 8
George Charles Best 41
Mary Ann Best 36
George Charles Best 10
William Henry Best 8
Mary Emily Best 6
John Albert Best 2
Wallis Oliver Best 4 Mo
James White 48
Eliza Wilson 20
Julia White 18
George Matthews 29
Eliza Matthews 27
Georgiana Eliza Matthews 2
Thomas Coowdy 40
Sarah Ann Coowdy 33
Sarah Ann Coowdy 7
Mary Coowdy 6 Mo
Juliah Hobbens 35
Sarah Ann Hobbens 25
Josiah Charles Hobbens 5
Charles Waller Hobbens 2
Emily Hobbens 3 Mo

1851 England Census
about Emily Hobbens
Name: Emily Hobbens
Age: 3 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Gender: Female
Where born: Forton Nr Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Forton St John
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Brickdale 49
Sarah Brickdale 48
Sarah Ann Brickdale 16
Emma Brickdale 13
Eliza Brickdale 11
William H Brickdale 7
Matthew Brickdale 6
James Guy Snape 51
Maria Snape 46
Alfred Chas Snape 22
Selena Snape 13
Charles Wesley Snape 11
James Samie Snape 8
George Charles Best 41
Mary Ann Best 36
George Charles Best 10
William Henry Best 8
Mary Emily Best 6
John Albert Best 2
Wallis Oliver Best 4 Mo
James White 48
Eliza Wilson 20
Julia White 18
George Matthews 29
Eliza Matthews 27
Georgiana Eliza Matthews 2
Thomas Coowdy 40
Sarah Ann Coowdy 33
Sarah Ann Coowdy 7
Mary Coowdy 6 Mo
Juliah Hobbens 35
Sarah Ann Hobbens 25
Josiah Charles Hobbens 5
Charles Waller Hobbens 2
Emily Hobbens 3 Mo

The image is a mess sadly and unreadable.Awful writing and full of errors!!Looks like Josiah and Sarah Ann are living with parents??which is obviously supposed to be the kids!Sorry.I also don't think he's a servant.The word written is not Servant but i can't say what it is??

Chris

Here is the 1851 and its mistranscribed with Josiah's 1st name and all the families surname!!I have checked against the 1861 and this is them.Only child missing from the 1861 is Emily-i will check for a poss death for her or she maybe elsewhere on the 1861?

Its a big record so i will cut the families out who are under your family.Appears to be Portsmouths division of the Royal Marines.

1851 England Census
about Juliah Hobbens
Name: Juliah Hobbens
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Forton St John
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Brickdale 49
Sarah Brickdale 48
Sarah Ann Brickdale 16
Emma Brickdale 13
Eliza Brickdale 11
William H Brickdale 7
Matthew Brickdale 6
James Guy Snape 51
Maria Snape 46
Alfred Chas Snape 22
Selena Snape 13
Charles Wesley Snape 11
James Samie Snape 8
George Charles Best 41
Mary Ann Best 36
George Charles Best 10
William Henry Best 8
Mary Emily Best 6
John Albert Best 2
Wallis Oliver Best 4 Mo
James White 48
Eliza Wilson 20
Julia White 18
George Matthews 29
Eliza Matthews 27
Georgiana Eliza Matthews 2
Thomas Coowdy 40
Sarah Ann Coowdy 33
Sarah Ann Coowdy 7
Mary Coowdy 6 Mo
Juliah Hobbens 35
Sarah Ann Hobbens 25
Josiah Charles Hobbens 5
Charles Waller Hobbens 2
Emily Hobbens 3 Mo

1851 England Census
about Sarah Ann Hobbens
Name: Sarah Ann Hobbens
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew
Gender: Female
Where born: Petersfield, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Forton St John
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Brickdale 49
Sarah Brickdale 48
Sarah Ann Brickdale 16
Emma Brickdale 13
Eliza Brickdale 11
William H Brickdale 7
Matthew Brickdale 6
James Guy Snape 51
Maria Snape 46
Alfred Chas Snape 22
Selena Snape 13
Charles Wesley Snape 11
James Samie Snape 8
George Charles Best 41
Mary Ann Best 36
George Charles Best 10
William Henry Best 8
Mary Emily Best 6
John Albert Best 2
Wallis Oliver Best 4 Mo
James White 48
Eliza Wilson 20
Julia White 18
George Matthews 29
Eliza Matthews 27
Georgiana Eliza Matthews 2
Thomas Coowdy 40
Sarah Ann Coowdy 33
Sarah Ann Coowdy 7
Mary Coowdy 6 Mo
Juliah Hobbens 35
Sarah Ann Hobbens 25
Josiah Charles Hobbens 5
Charles Waller Hobbens 2
Emily Hobbens 3 Mo

1851 England Census
about Josiah Charles Hobbens
Name: Josiah Charles Hobbens
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Gender: Male
Where born: Southsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical parish: Forton St John
Town: Gosport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: Portsmouth Division of Royal Marines
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Brickdale 49
Sarah Brickdale 48
Sarah Ann Brickdale 16
Emma Brickdale 13
Eliza Brickdale 11
William H Brickdale 7
Matthew Brickdale 6
James Guy Snape 51
Maria Snape 46
Alfred Chas Snape 22
Selena Snape 13
Charles Wesley Snape 11
James Samie Snape 8
George Charles Best 41
Mary Ann Best 36
George Charles Best 10
William Henry Best 8
Mary Emily Best 6
John Albert Best 2
Wallis Oliver Best 4 Mo
James White 48
Eliza Wilson 20
Julia White 18
George Matthews 29
Eliza Matthews 27
Georgiana Eliza Matthews 2
Thomas Coowdy 40
Sarah Ann Coowdy 33
Sarah Ann Coowdy 7
Mary Coowdy 6 Mo
Juliah Hobbens 35
Sarah Ann Hobbens 25
Josiah Charles Hobbens 5
Charles Waller Hobbens 2
Emily Hobbens 3 Mo

Continue....

Chris

Hi Chris here is the 1861 you requested

1861 England Census
about Josiah Hobbins
Name: Josiah Hobbins
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

1861 England Census
about Sarah A Hobbins
Name: Sarah A Hobbins
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Josiah
Gender: Female
Where born: Gosport, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

1861 England Census
about Josiah C Hobbins
Name: Josiah C Hobbins
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Josiah
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

1861 England Census
about Charles W Hobbins
Name: Charles W Hobbins
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Josiah
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Forton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

1861 England Census
about Elizabeth A Hobbins
Name: Elizabeth A Hobbins
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Josiah
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

1861 England Census
about William Hobbins
Name: William Hobbins
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Josiah
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 218
Household Members: Name Age
Josiah Hobbins 45
Sarah A Hobbins 35
Josiah C Hobbins 15
Charles W Hobbins 12
Elizabeth A Hobbins 8
William Hobbins 3

Josiah Pensioner R.N

Address i can't make out the 2nd word??ist word is Cottage 2nd word Dim?

As you are 1 of my regulars i will of course look for more!! : )

hi michelle
george ellis was born in howden auckland i think it was 7 school st in 1902
i will pop down and get his cert tomorrow
thanks again
helen

Elaine

The 1871 shows proof that John's daughter Mary is his cos she is with the sister of John who is now in the name Wilson.It is Betty from the 1841 now Betsie Wilson.

1871 England Census
about Betsy Wilson
Name: Betsy Wilson
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ingleton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Clitheroe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Clitheroe
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Clitheroe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Wilson 37
Richard Wilson 14
Mary Douthwaite 18

1871 England Census
about Richard Wilson
Name: Richard Wilson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Betsy
Gender: Male
Where born: Bolton, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Clitheroe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Clitheroe
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Clitheroe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Wilson 37
Richard Wilson 14
Mary Douthwaite 18

1871 England Census
about Mary Douthwaite
Name: Mary Douthwaite
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Rathmell, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Clitheroe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Clitheroe
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Clitheroe
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 184
Household Members: Name Age
Betsy Wilson 37
Richard Wilson 14
Mary Douthwaite 18

Betsy is a Widow and a Housekeeper
Richard an Errand Boy
Mary is a Cotton Weaver

Address 38 Moor Lane

Just to make certain here is this Betty's marriage

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Betty Douthwaite 1855 Clitheroe Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record

John Isherwood Wilson 1855 Clitheroe Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Betty Douthwaite
Name: Betty Douthwaite
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Clitheroe
County: Lancashire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 8e
Page: 265 (click to see others on page)

Hope that has helped i can't find alot more cos John is not easy to track from here on and i can't see a definite death.

Hi Michelle

Sorry to bother you again but I was wondering if you could please help me with this? I have found William Edward Dowsey (1872) Whitehaven, on the 1901 Census (married), on the 1891 Census he was in the army, but on the 1881 Census I can't find him. (I was trying to see if he had any siblings). The only one that comes up is a William Edward Dowsey (1874). I have William Edward's birth cert. (1872), his dad is down as Thomas Dowsey, his mam as Mary Elizabeth, I can't make out her maiden name though. I have tried to find a marriage cert for them but I've drawn a blank. Could you please help with any of this?

Thank you.

Yvonne

Elaine

Confused???I have found the 1861 for John and he is with his widowed Mother and he is of course a widow also....but.....there is a daughter born 1853???I am wondering if this daughter is Mary Chamley's??sister of Alice?Who was living with them on the 1851.The death for Alice looked spot on and couldn't see another?I will re check that death.

1861 England Census
about Mary Doughwaite
Name: Mary Doughwaite
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Garstang, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton By Bowland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Gisburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Doughwaite 71
John Doughwaite 37
Mary Doughwaite 8

1861 England Census
about John Doughwaite
Name: John Doughwaite
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ingleton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton By Bowland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Gisburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Doughwaite 71
John Doughwaite 37
Mary Doughwaite 8

1861 England Census
about Mary Doughwaite
Name: Mary Doughwaite
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Rathmell, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bolton By Bowland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Clitheroe
Sub registration district: Gisburn
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Doughwaite 71
John Doughwaite 37
Mary Doughwaite 8

Mary a Widow and a Houseworker
John a Ag Lab

No address listed next to the house although on 2 houses down listed as Hilltop.

Elaine

1861 for Agnes continued...

1861 England Census
about Agness Douthwaite
Name: Agness Douthwaite
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Giggleswick, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about Annas Atkinson
Name: Annas Atkinson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Gandale, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about James Redmayne
Name: James Redmayne
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Horton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

Robert a Inn Keeper and Farmer of 200 Acres
Roger and William Farmer's sons
Mary Dairy Maid
Annas Housemaid
James Cow Man

Address Selside

Elaine

Agnes is with her Grandparents on the 1861 still looking for John at the moment but thought you may like the 1861 for Agnes to see Alice's parents and family?

1861 England Census
about Robert Chamley
Name: Robert Chamley
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agness
Gender: Male
Where born: Arncliffe, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about Agness Chamley
Name: Agness Chamley
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert
Gender: Female
Where born: Hawes, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about Rodger Chamley
Name: Rodger Chamley
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Agness
Gender: Male
Where born: Horton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about William Chamley
Name: William Chamley
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Agness
Gender: Male
Where born: Horton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

1861 England Census
about Mary Chamley
Name: Mary Chamley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Agness
Gender: Female
Where born: Horton, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Horton in Ribblesdale
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Settle
Sub registration district: Settle
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Chamley 69
Agness Chamley 66
Rodger Chamley 35
William Chamley 24
Mary Chamley 25
Agness Douthwaite 10
Annas Atkinson 14
James Redmayne 17

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Elaine

Alice's death was registered in the quarter after the 1851 census


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Alice Douthwaite
Name: Alice Douthwaite
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Settle
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 23
Page: 463 (click to see others on page)