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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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HelenBrissie

HelenBrissie Report 15 Feb 2009 23:08

Evening Michelle,

It must be getting late for you, thank you so much for all this information. I certainly have a lot to digest today :-). The first one looks like a strong possibility as Mary listed her maiden name as Patulla on her son's wedding certificate in 1901....had me really baffled, thought it may have been mistranscribed. Ah the plot thickens.

I appreciate your offer of further help, maybe come back to you tomorrow once I have sieved through all the census info?

bye for now
Kind regards
Helen

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 22:53

Helen

here is the 1843 birthyear Mary on the 1861

1861 Scotland Census
about Mary Patterson
Name: Mary Patterson
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Vigeans, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 272
Registration district: Arbroath
Civil Parish: St Vigeans
Town: Arbroath
County: Angus
Address: 19 East Mill Wynd
Occupation: Tow Mill Worker
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 106
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_36
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Patterson 18
Betsy Patterson 23
Jane Patterson 14

1861 Scotland Census
about Betsy Patterson
Name: Betsy Patterson
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: St Vigeans, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 272
Registration district: Arbroath
Civil Parish: St Vigeans
Town: Arbroath
County: Angus
Address: 19 East Mill Wynd
Occupation: Tow Mill Worker
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 106
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_36
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Patterson 18
Betsy Patterson 23
Jane Patterson 14

1861 Scotland Census
about Jane Patterson
Name: Jane Patterson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: St Vigeans, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 272
Registration district: Arbroath
Civil Parish: St Vigeans
Town: Arbroath
County: Angus
Address: 19 East Mill Wynd
Occupation: Tow Mill Worker
ED: 27
Household schedule number: 106
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_36
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Patterson 18
Betsy Patterson 23
Jane Patterson 14

I hope 1 of them is the 1 you want Helen....cross fingers!If not let me know and i'm happy to help with other possibles.

Michelle








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 22:45

Helen

The 1861 Census

1861 Scotland Census
about Robert Patterson
Name: Robert Patterson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about Peter Patterson
Name: Peter Patterson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 22:42

Helen

The 1841 birthyear Mary you mentioned for the 1861 is with parents?

1861 Scotland Census
about Georges Patterson
Name: Georges Patterson
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Meigle, Perthshire
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Tailor Of Grocer
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about Mary Patterson
Name: Mary Patterson
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Georges
Gender: Female
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Tailor's Wife
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 21
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about Mary Patterson
Name: Mary Patterson
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Tailor's Daur
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about John Patterson
Name: John Patterson
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Cattle Boy
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about George Patterson
Name: George Patterson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

1861 Scotland Census
about James Patterson
Name: James Patterson
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Georges
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Tealing, Forfarsh
Registration Number: 322
Registration district: Tealing
Civil Parish: Tealing
County: Angus
Address: Woees's Shop
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 2
Roll: CSSCT1861_46
Household Members: Name Age
Georges Patterson 52
Mary Patterson 48
Mary Patterson 20
John Patterson 15
George Patterson 14
James Patterson 11
Robert Patterson 10
Peter Patterson 6

Continued....



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 22:17

Helen

Here is the other lady the 1842 one

1851 Scotland Census
about John Patterson
Name: John Patterson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
Occupation: Seaman
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about Catherine Patterson
Name: Catherine Patterson
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Fowlis, Perthshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about Mary Patterson
Name: Mary Patterson
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about William Patterson
Name: William Patterson
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about Margaret Patterson
Name: Margaret Patterson
Age: 5 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about Elisabeth Soutar
Name: Elisabeth Soutar
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Glayon, Lanarkshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
Occupation: Mill Worker Spinner Flax
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25

1851 Scotland Census
about Archabald Soutar
Name: Archabald Soutar
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Lethendy, Perthshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 11 Georges Place Joint Stock Buldgs
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 65
Page: 14 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 58
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1851_62
Household Members: Name Age
John Patterson 31
Catherine Patterson 31
Mary Patterson 9
William Patterson 3
Margaret Patterson 5 Mo
Elisabeth Soutar 27
Archabald Soutar 25




















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 22:10

Helen

Hi Helen!

Here is the 1839 person 1st

1851 Scotland Census
about James Patullo
Name: James Patullo
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relationship: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Edin, Midlothian
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Scotts Close
Occupation: Seaman
ED: 18
Page: 13 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_60
Household Members: Name Age
James Patullo 60
Mary Patullo 51
Mary Patterson 12

1851 Scotland Census
about Mary Patullo
Name: Mary Patullo
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Brechin, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Scotts Close
ED: 18
Page: 13 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1851_60
Household Members: Name Age
James Patullo 60
Mary Patullo 51
Mary Patterson 12

1851 Scotland Census
about Mary Patterson
Name: Mary Patterson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Scotts Close
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 18
Page: 13 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1851_60
Household Members: Name Age
James Patullo 60
Mary Patullo 51
Mary Patterson 12

Will look for the other 1 next.








K

K Report 15 Feb 2009 22:02

Michelle, what can I say - you are are a STAR

Will take a bit of time to digest all the info

One again thanks so much

Kats

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 21:53

Kats

Hope that all proves useful to you.Make sure to check previous page all through as there are some further up the page as well.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 21:52

Kats

1851 Continued...

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Munnings
Name: Elizabeth Munnings
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Capel, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about Emma Cooper
Name: Emma Cooper
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Witnesham, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about Charles Josephs
Name: Charles Josephs
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1783
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Belstead, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

Samuel a Saddler and Harness Maker Master employing 4 men
George a Saddler and Harness Maker Assistant
Elizabeth and Emma House Servant's
Charles a Landed Proprietor

Address Corn Hill









***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 21:45

kats

Here is the marriage of George Wade...Ernest's father and his mother Ann

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Ann Deacon 1865 Faringdon Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Wiltshire
View Record
George Wade 1865 Faringdon Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Wiltshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about George Wade
Name: George Wade
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Faringdon
County: Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Wiltshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 567 (click to see others on page)

here i will take you back another generation to George's parents.These would be Ernest's Grandparents.

1851 England Census
about Samuel Wade
Name: Samuel Wade
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Woodbridge, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about Hannah Wade
Name: Hannah Wade
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Samuel
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about George Wade
Name: George Wade
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about James Wade
Name: James Wade
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

1851 England Census
about Hannah M Wade
Name: Hannah M Wade
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 75
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Wade 48
Hannah Wade 41
George Wade 18
James Wade 13
Hannah M Wade 5
Elizabeth Munnings 24
Emma Cooper 19
Charles Josephs 68

Continue....



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 21:29

kats

1861 England Census
about George Wade
Name: George Wade
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Ipswich St Mary At The Tower
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Ipswich
Sub registration district: St Margaret
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 28

George a Unmarried Saddler

Address 62 Tavern Street






***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 21:06

Kats

You have the 1881 so i will look on from there.

here is his marriage to Mary

Mary Ann Jew 1890 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Ernest Charles Wade 1890 Islington Greater London, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Ernest Charles Wade
Name: Ernest Charles Wade
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 424 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1891

1891 England Census
about Ernest Chares Wade
Name: Ernest Chares Wade
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Farringdon, Banffshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Chares Wade 22
Mary Ann Wade 19

1891 England Census
about Mary Ann Wade
Name: Mary Ann Wade
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Ernest Chares
Gender: Female
Where born: Paddington, London, England

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Chares Wade 22
Mary Ann Wade 19

Saddle Harness Maker

Birthplace is Berkshire not Banffshire.

Can't read the address












HelenBrissie

HelenBrissie Report 15 Feb 2009 20:59

Hi Michelle,

I am not sure which of these entries are mine so could I possibly ask if you could lookup both for me please. Mary's pob should be Dundee.

1851 Scotland Angus

Mary Patterson born abt 1839 (no parents) residing Angus
Mary Patterson born abt 1842 (with parents) residing Angus

1861 Scotland Angus

Mary Patterson born abt 1841 (no parents) residing Angus
Mary Patterson born abt 1843 (with parents) residing Angus

Many thanks for all your assistance
bye Helen

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 20:43

Kats

1871 for Ernest and family continued....

1871 England Census
about Ada E Broadway
Name: Ada E Broadway
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

George a Saddler employing 2 men and a boy
Frances a Annuitant and a Widow
Elizabeth a Gen Servant
Ada a Nurse Maid

Address Market Place





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 20:40

kats

Here is the 1871 for the couple

1871 England Census
about George Wade
Name: George Wade
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

1871 England Census
about Ann Wade
Name: Ann Wade
[Ann Deacon]
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Mother's Name: Frances
Gender: Female
Where born: Faringdon, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

1871 England Census
about Ellen F D Wade
Name: Ellen F D Wade
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Faringdon, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

1871 England Census
about Ernest C Wade
Name: Ernest C Wade
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Faringdon, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

1871 England Census
about Frances Deacon
Name: Frances Deacon
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: East Hanny, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Boulton
Name: Elizabeth Boulton
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lechlade, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Faringdon
Town: Faringdon
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Faringdon
Sub registration district: Faringdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
George Wade 38
Ann Wade 37
Ellen F D Wade 4
Ernest C Wade 2
Frances Deacon 72
Elizabeth Boulton 21
Ada E Broadway 17

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 20:33

Kats

Thanks she is on the mend.She still has spots but they are drying out.

This is the 1901 for James and he is listed as born in Essex.Checked the image and it is Essex.

1901 England Census
about James Wade
Name: James Wade
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ernest
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Wood Green
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 69
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Ernest Wade 32
Mary Wade 29
James Wade 6
Edith Wade 4
Catherine Wade 2
Charles Wade 6 months


Looking at the BMD's for c1895 here are your choices

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Ernest Wade
Name: James Ernest Wade
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 279 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Pooley Wade
Name: James Pooley Wade
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lexden
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 678 (click to see others on page)

It is not the 2nd one as i have found him.So looks like its James Ernest...makes sense as father's name is Ernest.



K

K Report 15 Feb 2009 19:18

Hi Michelle, hope your daughter is feeling much better.
Looking for some more searches if you could. G GM Catherine Mary Wade b 13/11/1898. Can see her on 1901 census living Wood Green London. On this one trying to work out where her brother James b c 1895 was born - cannot for the life of me read the writting. Her father was Ernest born Berks c 1869.
Would also be grateful for any further info you can get on her father Ernest Charles Wade. On 1881 census he is living Great Faringdon, Berkshire, England with father George b c 1833 Ipswich, Suffolk, England , Saddle & Harness Maker Carpenter Employing 1 Boy Apprentice & 2 Men, mother Ann born c1834, sister Ellen, brother Frank and Servant Alice Greenaway
Thanks, as always

Kats

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 18:19

Corinne

Im so glad they were all correct : )

All sounds really interesting.Good luck with the Roffs and i am always happy to help you should you need help again!

Happy searching!

Michelle

Corinne

Corinne Report 15 Feb 2009 17:23

Hi Michelle
Just to let you know that i got all my certs back and they all correct!! So thankyou for all the vol and page nos!!! My grandfathers younger brother Albert died at 14 months which was sad, Annie registered his death on the same day and was at home with him when he died, starting to wonder if maybe this could have led to her leaving 3 years later, i got quite upset when the cert arrived! Having kids yourself makes you realise how heartbroken she must have been, he had only been ill for 4 days. I also got Annies mum and dad wedding cert which is giving me a lead on Caroline Roffs family which is great!!! I also got Alberts death cert from 1901, he died at his brother in laws house so still a mystery as to why the family had scattered in 1901. I did look at Lilian living with her Uncle Charlie in windsor and he has listed her as his daughter!!!! So not sure wether he adopted her, if Caroline left and Albert to sick to look after her??!!! Just wish i could go back in time!!!! Any how thank you again for all your help you have been fantastic and because of your help, now know so much more about my elusive great grandmother!!! I will keep on detecting and if i get stuck will drop you a line..The Roffs are looking fairly interesting!!!!
Thanks again
Corinne

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Feb 2009 16:19

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