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Antigone

I need zzzzzzz!Could you post the witnesses to the marriage of Margaret of 1873 please?

Thanks
Michelle

Antigone

This could be Johanna on the 1851 parents listed as born in Ireland.

I might be barking up a wrong tree here Antigone but its all i keep finding when looking for Edmund.There is i suppose the poss that Edmund and Margaret returned to Ireland??


1851 England Census
about Johanna Aday
Name: Johanna Aday
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Temothy
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol

Civil Parish: Bristol St Nicholas
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: Castle Precincts
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Temothy Aday 40
Johanna Aday 61
Birdges Aday 22
Joha Aday 20
James Aday 16
Edwd Aday 14
Johanna Aday 12
Ellen Aday 6

Timothy and Bridget Labourers

Antigone

1871 lists birthyear for Edmund as 1831 aged 40,i have checked the image and i think it should read 1825 and aged 46.Now note a cousin Johanna....unmarried from the same place as the Johanna wife on the 1881 also birthyear is the same?!!None of the children from the 1861 present??We see a poss John D'arcy on the 1881 the other children from the 1861 would have been at an age to leave home.Or were they with Margaret in Ireland visiting???Maybe that's why the cousin is there to help with the children?On the image name spelt D'arcy not Darcy.

1871 England Census
about Edmund Darcy
Name: Edmund Darcy
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Clare, Ireland
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Darcy 40
Johanna Oday 33
Francis Darcy 4
Frederick Darcy 2
Ellen Darcy 10 months

1871 England Census
about Johanna Oday
Name: Johanna Oday
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Cousin
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Darcy 40
Johanna Oday 33
Francis Darcy 4
Frederick Darcy 2
Ellen Darcy 10 months

1871 England Census
about Francis Darcy
Name: Francis Darcy
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Gender: Male
Where born: St Martins, London, England
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Darcy 40
Johanna Oday 33
Francis Darcy 4
Frederick Darcy 2
Ellen Darcy 10 months

1871 England Census
about Frederick Darcy
Name: Frederick Darcy
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Gender: Male
Where born: St Martins, London, England
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Darcy 40
Johanna Oday 33
Francis Darcy 4
Frederick Darcy 2
Ellen Darcy 10 months

1871 England Census
about Ellen Darcy
Name: Ellen Darcy
Age: 10 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Gender: Female
Where born: St Martins, London, England
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Charing Cross
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 175
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Darcy 40
Johanna Oday 33
Francis Darcy 4
Frederick Darcy 2
Ellen Darcy 10 months

Edmund a Bootmaker
Johanna a Artificial Flower Maker

Antigone

1881 England Census
about Alfred D'Arcy
Name: Alfred D'Arcy
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London St Martin In The Fields, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about Catherine D'Arcy
Name: Catherine D'Arcy
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Female
Where born: London St Martin In The Fields, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about Henry D'Arcy
Name: Henry D'Arcy
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London St Martin In The Fields, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

John is the main link and the birthplace matches the 1861 below

1861 England Census
about John V Arey
Name: John V Arey
Age: 2 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, St James

Civil Parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub registration district: Berwick Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Arey 35
Margaret Arey 40
Margaret Arey 15
Edward Arey 9
James Arey 7
Thomas Arey 5
John V Arey 2 Mo
Caroline Fougoulle 28

i will post the 1871 next and something interesting on there...

Antigone

Unsure re this 1???I looked through the children and looked 1st at John the 2 month old from the 1861 and noticed a 1881 poss for him with parents Edmund and Johanna....??Johanna is not the mother and i can show you that on a previous census.John at mo is not showing on the 1871 so my little mind has been thinking...i wonder if Margaret took him to Ireland for a visit?I also wonder if she died over there??Well this is if this is the correct 1881.The surname is so mistranscibed at times makes it hard to know for sure whether their is a death for her.The 1881 lists Edmund as County Clare though.I will post it and see what you think.

1881 England Census
about Edmund D'Arcy
Name: Edmund D'Arcy
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: Clare CO, Ireland

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Boot & Shoe Maker

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about Johanna D'Arcy
Name: Johanna D'Arcy
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edmund
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about John D'Arcy
Name: John D'Arcy
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London St James, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Boot & Shoe Maker

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about Francis H. D'Arcy
Name: Francis H. D'Arcy
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Male
Where born: London St Martin In The Fields, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Shop Boy

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

1881 England Census
about Ellen D'Arcy
Name: Ellen D'Arcy
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edmund
Mother's Name: Johanna
Gender: Female
Where born: London St Martin In The Fields, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Cecil Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: St Martin In The Fields
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund D'Arcy 54
Johanna D'Arcy 43
John D'Arcy 20
Francis H. D'Arcy 14
Ellen D'Arcy 10
Alfred D'Arcy 4
Catherine D'Arcy 2
Henry D'Arcy

Continue....

Antigone

Thanks for info.Found them nicely mistranscribed

1861 England Census
about Dr. Edward Arey
Name: Dr. Edward Arey
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cork, Ireland

Civil Parish: Westminster St James
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St James Westminster
Sub registration district: Berwick Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 61
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Arey 35
Margaret Arey 40
Margaret Arey 15
Edward Arey 9
James Arey 7
Thomas Arey 5
John V Arey 2 Mo
Caroline Fougoulle 28

With this will take a look now for you.

Sorry Edmund not Edward is a bootmaker and Margaret married Richard Butler.

Too tired!

Best wishes

Hi Michelle

Its Margaret (C1846) Edward (C1852 james (c1854), Thomas (c1856) and John V (c1861)

They are at 15 Archer St (St James Westminster, Berwick St) London. It's Soho and Edward is a bootmaker which fits with the marriage cert I have of Margaret (daughter) who married Richard Bulter in June 1873

Hope this is what you need.

A

Antigone

Can you give me the birthyears of the children please.Also did you find them mistranscribed on the 1861?and where were they?

Michelle

Hi Michelle
I wonder if you could find out anything in your census searches about Abert William Woods, (my grandfather) he died in 1941 aged 47 so probably born 1894? The only details I have are that the place of death was 309 Park Cottages, Barston, Hampton in Arden. I have a copy of his death certificate, he was with my grandmother Dorothy Knowles (can't find a record of any marriage) but that wasn't until long after the 1920's.
I've no idea where he was born, I do know he was a reserve policeman in Solihull but thats all I'm afraid.
Grateful for any information.
Thanks
Wendy

Hi Michelle,

Henry Barrett married Sarah Hollidge 25/02/1862 at Christ Church, Streatham.

Henry age full Sarah age full. Henry's occupation Coachman.

Father Henry Barrett, Gamekeeper.

Father John Hollidge, Bootmaker.

Residence at time of marriage, Streatham Hill.

thanks

Chris

Hi Michelle

It's me again. Hope you don't mind doing another look up for me. This is for any info about Edmund D'arcy (c1825) and his wife Margaret (1821)
I have found them and their children (including their daughter Margaret c184) my ancestor) on the 1861 and it says they were born in Cork, Ireland.but can't find them on any later census.

Any info very gratefully received.
very best wishes

Antigone

Chris

Do you have the marriage cert of 1862?If so can i have details please.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

That certainly looks like him. He married in 1862 in Streatham so would probably be in lodgings prior to that.

Chris

Danielle

Here is the marriage,although i suspect you already have this?

Patrick Lochran 1855 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
View Record

Catherine McGrale 1855 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Catherine McGrale
Name: Catherine McGrale
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 373 (click to see others on page)

I just wondered why you thought she had been married before?Is sometimes mentioned on the birth cert previously known as...but only McGrale mentioned?Early BMD did not always show all known names as.

I do think you will need the marriage cert for these two.To get ages and father's names.They could both be from Ireland or Catherine could be from Scotland?There are possibles for them on the records for 1851 but without ages i would not being able to say which is the right ones.

Chris

Is this your Henry?

1861 England Census
about Henry Barrett
Name: Henry Barrett
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Woolhampton, Berkshire, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 97
Household Members: Name Age
James Nicholls 33
Elizabeth Nicholls 36
Elizabeth Nicholls 8
James Edward Nicholls 5
Alfred Robt Nicholls 3
Frederick Thos Nicholls 1
John Blackman 33
Fanny Blackman 33
Henry Barrett 39
Henry Carter 4

Reason i ask is it states 1822 birthyear and not 1832?Although the census image could be 29 years old writing is not very clear.

I will look for more just wanted to check this is your Henry before i look.

Hello Michelle

Born 5th of May 1855 @ 5 Falstaffs Yard, Leeds. Name James, fathers name Patrick Loughlan, mothers name Catherine Loughlin formarly Mcgrail. Fathers occupation is general labourer. Hope this helps.

Kind regards

Danielle

Danielle

Can you please post on here the info on the birth cert.Where he was born,address etc.

Michelle

Hi Michelle

I've just recieved the birth certificate for James Loughlan/Laughlin born 1855 and is father is Patrick and his mother is Catherine Mcgrale/Mcgrail. Tried looking for them on 1851 but couldn't find anything, didn't you say you had found them? I may send off for there marriage certificate as i have a feeling that Catherine was married before.

Kind regards

Danielle

Hi Michelle,

I am trying to find any records of the BARRETT family in Woolhampton, Berkshire.
My great grandfather Henry Barrett gives Woolhampton as his place of birth c1832 on the '51 & 61 census. He was then in Surrey.

Any leads would be most welcome.

rgs

Chris