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Cynthia

Where did he marry?also do you have any siblings for him?any info at all on the parents?If you have the marriage wondered if you have a cert for the marriage and father's name and occupation?

Michelle

Valerie

What you need now is an Irish Ancestry expert!Inis is very good although i am unsure if he is still doing lookups?Take a search on the Records Office Board and see or put a thread on and request if anyone has Irish records to help you find parents or marriage of Joseph and Mary.

There are quite a few records for you on this thread and a few requests from others in between so be sure to check through the previous page and threads to see all those for you.

Hope this has helped a little.

Michelle

Valerie

A poss marriage for Richard??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Richard Ruttle
Name: Richard Ruttle
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Leyland
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 503 (click to see others on page)

Jane Leyland 1912 Ruttle Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire

Richard Ruttle 1912 Leyland Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire

I can't see children for this couple so maybe they did go to Canada?

Valerie

Looks like this could be Richard Ruttle 1884?Incoming from Canada and staying in Bolton!It lists a birthdate for him

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Richard Ruttle
Name: Richard Ruttle
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1883
Age: 73
Port of Departure: Montrã©AL, Quã©Bec, Canada
Arrival Date: 15 Jun 1956
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Montreal and Greenock
Ship Name: Ivernia
Search Ship Database: View the 'Ivernia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: The Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 4640/01

Address he is staying at is 66 Bankfield Street,Bolton.Listed as now living and a citizen of Canada and staying in UK for 3 months.Also listed as retired and married although no wife was travelling with him.Looks like it might be your Richard?

Hi Michelle

I am trying to find information on this family :
George Chesters Allcock born c1820 Northwich and his wife
Ann Pickering born c1821, Crowton or Barnton, Northwich
William J Allcock c1860
Fanny Pickering Allcock c1862
Ralph Pickering Allcock c1865

I've had a look on the IGI but can't find a marriage or births for George & Ann.

Could you check the census returns for me please [ I've got 1881]. Any information on George & Ann and their children would be much appreciated.

Kind Regards

Angie

Valerie

Marriage of Nora

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Nora Ruttle
Name: Nora Ruttle
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's Surname: Moores
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 799 (click to see others on page)

James B Moores 1912 Ruttle Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire

Nora Ruttle 1912 Moores Bolton Greater Manchester, Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Jane Moores
Name: Jane Moores
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Ruttle
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 711 (click to see others on page)

Poss children for the couple

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Florence Moores
Name: Florence Moores
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Ruttle
District: Bolton
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 870 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Alice E Moores
Name: Alice E Moores
Mother's Maiden Surname: Ruttle
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1921
Registration district: Bolton
Registration county: Greater Manchester
Volume Number: 8e
Page Number: 718 (click to see others on page)

There are 2 further children after this date but i won't post these as they may still be alive.If you need them let me know and i will pm them to you.

Valerie

The family are on the 1911

HOUSEHOLD RUTTLE JOSEPH M 1862 49 Bolton Lancashire

1 results found. You searched for:
First names JOSEPH
First names Algorithm Exact
Last names RUTTLE
Last names Algorithm Exact
Birth Year 1861
Birth Year +/- 3 years
Birth Place IRELAND
Other person last names RUTTLE
Other person last names Algorithm Exact
Other person first names MARY
Other person first names Algorithm Exact

Do a search using these details and you will find them.

Their are trees on Ancestry with this family on them.1 person has noted father of Joseph as Joseph he was born 1841 Ireland-Limerick.I can't see any evidence of this yet as the 1871 has Caroline this Jospeh's wife in Devon with a son John and no Joseph.John is listed as born in Devon.
I would imagine that Joseph and Mary married and had they children in Ireland and came to England prior to the 1891 census.So finding a marriage and parents for this Joseph may not be so straight forward.

Will see if i can see anything else on the couple.

Hi Michelle, your'e such an expert at this....could you be very kind and see if you can find the following chap on the 1901 census please?

JESSE WENBOURNE born 1891 in Kent. I have found his birth and marriage but know little else about his history. He emigrated to Canada but it is his early life I am interested in. I can't find him on the IGI so am blocked at the moment.

Many thanks.

Valerie

Hi there!Here is the 1891 for your ancestors and Joseph and Mary were born in Ireland.

1891 England Census
about Joseph Ruttle
Name: Joseph Ruttle
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ruttle 30
Mary Ruttle 29
Richard J Ruttle 7
Mary N Ruttle 5
Nora Ruttle 1

1891 England Census
about Mary Ruttle
Name: Mary Ruttle
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ruttle 30
Mary Ruttle 29
Richard J Ruttle 7
Mary N Ruttle 5
Nora Ruttle 1

1891 England Census
about Richard J Ruttle
Name: Richard J Ruttle
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ruttle 30
Mary Ruttle 29
Richard J Ruttle 7
Mary N Ruttle 5
Nora Ruttle 1

1891 England Census
about Mary N Ruttle
Name: Mary N Ruttle
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ruttle 30
Mary Ruttle 29
Richard J Ruttle 7
Mary N Ruttle 5
Nora Ruttle 1

1891 England Census
about Nora Ruttle
Name: Nora Ruttle
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bolton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bolton
Sub registration district: Great Bolton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ruttle 30
Mary Ruttle 29
Richard J Ruttle 7
Mary N Ruttle 5
Nora Ruttle 1

Looks like Joseph was a Sailor although the S could be a T???so tailor.Writing was not that clear on the 1st letter.

Address Bleakley

Looks like they moved to England between in 1890-91.

Will see what else i can find.

Have placed your pm here Val be easier for me to refer too.Thanks

New message to ***Michelle***
HI MICHELLE,
COULD YOU HELP ME TRY AND FIND INFORMATION ABOUT MY G-GRANDPARENT'S:- JOSEPH RUTTLE b1861 d1931 & HIS WIFE MARY b1862 d 1932 THEY LIVED AT 21, ADELAIDE ST,BOLTON LANCS AT THE TIME OF THEIR DEATH'S. THEY HAD 3 CHILDREN MARY CATHERINE b 1886, RICHARD b1888 AND NORAH b1890, BUT I DON'T NO WERE THEY WHERE BORN
From Valerie

Thank you Michelle for you help.

Sheila

Shelia

Hi Shelia.Found a poss death and with all those middle names looks like a good poss?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Robert A J Whitehead
Name: Robert A J Whitehead
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Year of Registration: 1918
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 50
District: Newcastle Upon Tyne
County: Northumberland, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10b
Page: 54 (click to see others on page)

Have you tried searching the 1911 for him?No sign as yet on the 1901 if he was still in the military he may have been out of the country?I will move on to the next lookup i have and then look back on the 1901 again.

Michelle

Shemp

There are too many possibles for him sorry!without exact age and father's name which you would get from the marriage cert would not be right for me to guess,sorry.

Did see these poss children for the couple.

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Violet Andrews
Name: Violet Andrews
Mother's Maiden Surname: Buckley
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1917
Registration district: Hemsworth
Registration county: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 322 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Dorothy M Andrews
Name: Dorothy M Andrews
Mother's Maiden Surname: Buckley
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1919
Registration district: Hemsworth
Registration county: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 271 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Samuel B Andrews
Name: Samuel B Andrews
Mother's Maiden Surname: Buckley
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1923
Registration district: Hemsworth
Registration county: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 357 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Muriel Andrews
Name: Muriel Andrews
Mother's Maiden Surname: Buckley
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1921
Registration district: Hemsworth
Registration county: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 413 (click to see others on page)

There is a poss for 1937 also but won't post that cos he may still be alive.

Once you get the marriage cert you will be able to get further with this side and i will be happy to help you.

Elaine

Possible births

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Florence Bindloss
Name: Florence Bindloss
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Fitten
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 1362 (click to see others on page)

With a poss transcribe error of e instead of the o??

Can't see anymore???You really need to make certain you have the correct marriages really.If you obtain the certs you will see by father's names if it is your ancestor's marriages or not.

Michelle

Elaine

Barlow-Fitton connection=poss births

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Alice Barlow
Name: Alice Barlow
Mother's Maiden Surname: Fitton
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1922
Registration district: Oldham
Registration county: Greater Manchester
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 912 (click to see others on page)

Elaine

Looking at the Ashton-Fitton poss births....here they are

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Arthur Ashton
Name: Arthur Ashton
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Fitton
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 1355 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Edith M Ashton
Name: Edith M Ashton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Fitton
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1920
Registration district: Oldham
Registration county: Greater Manchester
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1058 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Agnes Ashton
Name: Agnes Ashton
Mother's Maiden Surname: Fitton
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1917
Registration district: Oldham
Registration county: Greater Manchester
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 962 (click to see others on page)

These are only possibles and their could well be another marriage between a Ashton and a Fitton?Did they not have any children with them on the census record?If you look at the image it will normally say how many children they have had.Where were they living on the 1911?This would help in my search for births.
The only way to know for sure is to send for the certs and ask that they be checked against the parents names you have to ensure you don't get certs what are not yours.

Hello Michelle,
I have a Robert Whitehead on the 1891 census in Ipswich barracks ..a gunner in the Royal Artillery.. And then a dead end.
Do you think you could find anything about him after this please. I can't find a marriage or census details for 1901
I also have his birth ...Robert Andrew Joseph Whitehead born 1868 in Woolwich,father William ..mother ..Amelia.

Many Thanks

Sheila

hi michelle could you please take a look for a james andrews possibly born 1898 i have the marrage he married a may buckley march 1917 kingsley hemsworth west yorks and i have her decendants and family but i can not get further back with james could you possibly help please anything i will be happy with and thank you very much.

Hi michelle
i was wondering if you can help me by any chance.. wondering if mary ann (fitton) married Peter Ashton 1907 St Marys High Crompton.. mary was brn 1879 peter 1876 heywood.. i found them on the 1911 census with her two sisters boading with her .. could you find out if they had any children?
also with the two sisters
Emma brn1885 i found a marrige with her 1912 st marys high crompton to a Thomas Barlow..
Harriet fitton brn 1882 (m) charlie bindloss 1912 also st marys high crompton.. if any of them had children.. any info will be most helpful .. thank you so much
elaine

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