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Debra

Could you give me the details of Eliza daughter please her birthyear and place etc.

Also witness names from the marriage cert.

Thanks
Michelle

Marjorie

I don't have Scottish records after 1901 sorry.Best place to try is

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Best of luck to you.

Michelle

Hi Michelle
Just another one which i hope you can help with finding.. If possible i have a marriage for Alice fitton & Henry Preistley they married 1914 at st John thornham.. by any chance could you see if they had any children.. put another few branches on my tree... any information would be appreciated.. thanks again for your help
elaine

Hi Michelle

I wonder if you can help me. I have hit 'that brick wall!'

I have just received a copy of the marriage cert. for my Gt. Gt. Grandmother & Gt Gt Grandfather which is great, but I'm having no luck whatsoever in finding her father.

This is the information shown of the wedding cert. of 13th September 1863 for the marriage of Thomas Steven Brisley and Eliza Allibone.

It shows the residence as Chatham, Kent and her fathers name as John Evans Allibone with a profession as Musician. I have found the Allibone family on the census' but without the John ever being present, but showing the head of house as Eliza (which would be my Eliza's mother) as married. It is my guess he could well have been in the forces as there were I think a Royal Marines Barracks and another army barracks close by, as well as the Royal Naval Base. Based on the census records I can put the year of birth for Eliza snr. at around 1821 so he was probably of similar age, but of course thats pure guesswork on my part.

The one thing I know for sure is that he is certainly an illusive character that is causing me a major headache!

Thanks in advance

Debs

Hi
michelle
Thanks for your help the past times its very much appreciated and a great help.. please could you help on this one as well Joseph Fitton brn 1870 & nancy Barnes brn 1875 (m) 1905 in oldham reg office... could you tell me please if they had any children ..
thanks once again
elaine

Angie

Been scratching my head this morn with your request!!Wow....i'm just going back to it now as i have been out working in the real world!!Didn't want you to think i haven't been working on it.

I still think we have the right people and i agree the 1881 certainly looks good to me!Mary again!!!!At 1st glance this morn i wondered if ages were just written down wrong and even wondered it Henry was a middle name for Ralph but he is with parents on the 1881.

So give me some time on this 1 and i will try and work it out!


Michelle

hi michelle long time no here not stopped since looking for margaret and janet shaw born 1904 and 1906 i think lived or born birtwhistle street gatehouse in the parish of girthon kirkcudbrightshire dont know if they married or had family marjorie

Hi Michelle

Thank you for looking at James & Mary Allcock for me - I think its a trip to the records office for me !

James & Mary had a brother called George Chesters Allcock [after his father] born in 1853.

George junr married Sarah Frances Done in 1879 [courtesy of Cheshire BMD who gave his name in full !]

I found - I thought ! - my Sarah F Allcock & George Allcock on the 1881 census - but am completely thrown off track as the census shows a sister Mary Allcock aged 16 and 2 brothers - Thomas age 15 and Henry aged 11 also living in the household.

There's no Mary age16, Thomas age15 or Henry age11 in the previous census ! ?!

Who put up that brick wall ?!

Could you have a look at the census returns for me - see if you can find them elsewhere ? Mary has given me a headache as it is :(

Kind regards

Angie [otherwise known as veryconfused.com ! ]

Wow! I dont know how you do it but thank you, I will get in contact with the office, and see if we can track down his birth. Thanks again for all your help, It may take me while to sort that last lot of info out...
Take Care Tina

Brilliant Michelle! Thank you for your message. Had to go out hence the delay!!!

Really pleased and very grateful. More leaves on that branch now!

Cynthia

1901 Continued for Jesse

1901 England Census
about Jesse Wernbourne
Name: Jesse Wernbourne
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Rosealyne Wernbourne
Name: Rosealyne Wernbourne
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Violet Wernbourne
Name: Violet Wernbourne
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Edward Harrison
Name: Edward Harrison
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

George and Edward and George Labourers

Address Rochester Rd

Checked the image and this looks good to me!!

Cynthia

This could well be them!!!!!!!!!!!!

1901 England Census
about George Wernbourne
Name: George Wernbourne
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Tenterden, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Ellen Wernbourne
Name: Ellen Wernbourne
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Edward Wernbourne
Name: Edward Wernbourne
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about George Wernbourne
Name: George Wernbourne
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

1901 England Census
about Ellen J Wernbourne
Name: Ellen J Wernbourne
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Burham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Burham
Ecclesiastical parish: Burham St Mary the Virgin
Town: Burham
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Malling
Sub registration district: Aylesford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 174
Household Members: Name Age
George Wernbourne 40
Ellen Wernbourne 43
Edward Wernbourne 20
George Wernbourne 15
Ellen J Wernbourne 12
Jesse Wernbourne 9
Rosealyne Wernbourne 5
Violet Wernbourne 3
Edward Harrison 49

Continue....

Hi Michelle, just back online.

Re Jesse Wenbourne from last night.

All I know is that he married my relative Edith Goodwin in 1912 in Malling, Kent. His name there is spelt Jessie for some reason. (freebmd)

Can't find him on the IGI and don't know about his parents unfortunately. Really sorry I can't help more.

Hi Michelle
Once again thank you so ,much for your help.. on the census with ashton they where living on Rochdale road oldham... we will obtain cert for them to check but im sure its them .. thanks your a star:-) xx
elaine

Tina

Might be an idea to contact the Online Parish Clerk for Barcombe.

if you go to this site below it lists it there

http://www.sussex-opc.org/

Her name is Karen Wenke

She maybe able to advise you further on William.

Tina

here is some other info i have found on your family.Frances is the daughter of George and Frances

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940
about Frances Nicholas
Name: Frances Nicholas
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1827
Age: 32
Father's Name: George Nicholas
Spouse's Name: John Chart
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Chart
Marriage Date: 14 Aug 1859
Marriage Place: Brighton, Sussex, England

Son Albert's marriage

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Charlotte Anscombe 1854 Lewes Sussex, East Sussex
View Record
Albert Nicholas 1854 Lewes Sussex, East Sussex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Albert Nicholas
Name: Albert Nicholas
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lewes
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 221 (click to see others on page)

Tina


Siblings continued....Phew he had quite a few didn't he!!

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THOMAS NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 FEB 1790 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

And her is Ralph-George's father's marriage to Sarah

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RALPPH NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH WESTGATE Family
Marriage: 11 APR 1784 Barcombe, Sussex, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Tina

More Siblings for George

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LUCY NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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WILLIAM NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 JUN 1788 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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SARAH NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 APR 1796 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: LUCY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

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MARY ANN NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 FEB 1792 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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JENNY NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 APR 1786 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Continue.....

Tina

Incase you haven't got this...here is the marriage of George and Frances

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GEORGE NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: FRANCES ADDISON Family
Marriage: 09 FEB 1822 Barcombe, Sussex, England



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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

and Georges Christening

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GEORGE NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 APR 1799 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Siblings for George

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ELIZABETH NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1801 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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JAMES NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 FEB 1805 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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JOHN NICHOLAS Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 JAN 1785 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

continued....

Angie

Looking at the birth records and again at the image i would say James is 10 on the 1861

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Allcock
Name: James Allcock
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 238 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Allcock
Name: Mary Allcock
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 239 (click to see others on page)

Although i would say the 2nd one is your Mary.As their is a Mary J Allcock on the census records for 1851 birthyear in Northwich.

Oh look we have a 1845 birth record too!!!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Allcock
Name: Mary Allcock
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 184 (click to see others on page)

Although looking at the 1851 census records James is def listed as 5 years old and Mary as 1 month old!!So im confused now too!!!!


Looking at future census records after 1871 i would say their is a good chance that the 1873 death for James is your James.

So only way really to solve this 1 is to check the records and get the birth certs for 1851 to see if Mary and James were twins or whether Mary is the 1846 birth.

Michelle