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Debra

Thought it was funny how we both found the same John E i think he is def the father of Eliza and like you say quite a character!!I dont think he ever remarried and i believe he may have been quite a ladies man!!

I did find a poss death for him which maybe worth obtaining to see who registered his death and of course the marriage cert of 1844.

Will look and see what else i can find!

Michelle

Hi Michelle

Thanks for looking for John Evans Allibone for me - I have a little more info which may (or may not!) help!

I have found one marriage for him to Eliza Webb in 1844 in Chatham, Kent. Being honest I don't know where to look to find if they ever divorced, but I suspect they didn't (based on her always saying she was married on the local census) I have searched all over the place to see if he married anyone else, but can't find records either. I'd dearly love to find his parents too, but so far have had no luck on that score, but being honest haven't looked very hard (have got stuck on 'him' if you know what I mean!)

He does seem like a bit of a wild one to me!

Hi Michelle
Their grandaughter gave me the time frame for George/Ernest death..she is certain he died early 1950`s probably 52/3 and around christmas.
Am totally puzzled by this one !!
am really hoping you might see something I am missing and be able to help.
thankyou for your time to try
cathy

Catherine

I will look at the BMD for you.If you have searched quarter by quarter are you certain re 1952-3 death?Just wondered how you had this time frame in mind?
Well good thing is if hs wife died 1961 and was listed as a Widow we know he died before 1961.

Let me know re death year theory for Ernest-George and i will take a look

Michelle

Valerie

Was the son born 1877 called Francis?

Could you let me know please if not what his name was?Also detals re occupation of the father James on the certs please.

Think i may know your problem just need the confirmation re name.

Michelle

Emily

1901 Hidden under Moore!!handwriting wasn't fab on the image.This is def them though.

1901 England Census
about Aaron Moore
Name: Aaron Moore
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah E
Gender: Male
Where born: Berchwood, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Moore 49
Hannah E Moore 49
Herbert Moore 26
Daniel Moore 18
Ruth H Moore 9

1901 England Census
about Hannah E Moore
Name: Hannah E Moore
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Aaron
Gender: Female
Where born: Lowdham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Moore 49
Hannah E Moore 49
Herbert Moore 26
Daniel Moore 18
Ruth H Moore 9

1901 England Census
about Herbert Moore
Name: Herbert Moore
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah E
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Moore 49
Hannah E Moore 49
Herbert Moore 26
Daniel Moore 18
Ruth H Moore 9

1901 England Census
about Daniel Moore
Name: Daniel Moore
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah E
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Moore 49
Hannah E Moore 49
Herbert Moore 26
Daniel Moore 18
Ruth H Moore 9

1901 England Census
about Ruth H Moore
Name: Ruth H Moore
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah E
Gender: Female
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Moore 49
Hannah E Moore 49
Herbert Moore 26
Daniel Moore 18
Ruth H Moore 9

Aaron,Herbert and Daniel all Coal Hewer's

Address Wood End

Emily

1891

1891 England Census
about Aaron Noon
Name: Aaron Noon
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Father's Name: Daniel
Gender: Male
Where born: Birchwood, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

1891 England Census
about Hannah Noon
Name: Hannah Noon
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Aaron
Gender: Female
Where born: Lowdham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

1891 England Census
about John Noon
Name: John Noon
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

1891 England Census
about Herbert Noon
Name: Herbert Noon
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

1891 England Census
about Daniel Noon
Name: Daniel Noon
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

1891 England Census
about Daniel Herring
Name: Daniel Herring
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Father
Gender: Male
Where born: Lowdham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
Ecclesiastical parish: St Lawrence
Town: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 39
Hannah Noon 41
John Noon 19
Herbert Noon 15
Daniel Noon 8
Daniel Herring 75

Aaron and John Coal Miner's
Daniel father-in-law a Widower and a Farm Labourer

Address has elaborate writing looks like Loscoe Road?

Emily

1881

1881 England Census
about Aaron Noon
Name: Aaron Noon
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Alfreton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Fall Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about Hannah Elizabth. Noon
Name: Hannah Elizabth. Noon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Aaron
Gender: Female
Where born: Lowdam, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Fall Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about John Herring
Name: John Herring
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Long Eaton, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Fall Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

1881 England Census
about Herbert Noon
Name: Herbert Noon
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Aaron
Mother's Name: Hannah Elizabth.
Gender: Male
Where born: Heanor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Heanor
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: Fall Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Ilkeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Aaron Noon 29
Hannah Elizabth. Noon 30
John Herring 9
Herbert Noon 5

Debra

Can't see a marriage for the John E i found or any other info yet!There is an 1851 matching same name but 1826 with a Mary wife and he is listed as a Singer....and an 1841 John listed as a labourer. I must move on cos i really am behind!I will come back to yours.

Michelle

Debra

There is a death record of a John Evans Allibone below

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Evans Allibone
Name: John Evans Allibone
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 61
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 340 (click to see others on page)

Debra

Thanks for info and sorry for the delay i have had a busy week in my job.

I will take a look for you.I did find this record which is a little strange...it shows a John E Allibone born in Chatham living in Wales with an Ann and look for his occupation at the end.

1861 Wales Census
about John E Allibone
Name: John E Allibone
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Chatham, Kent, England

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Household Members: Name Age
John E Allibone 36
Ann Allibone 28

1861 Wales Census
about Ann Allibone
Name: Ann Allibone
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John E
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Cardiff
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 247
Household Members: Name Age
John E Allibone 36
Ann Allibone 28

John a Professor of Music

Strange isn't it!!!!!!!!!!not a common surname and for the occupation to be similar too.Will see what other possibles i can see and i will also look for a possible marriage for this chap.

Hi again Michelle

Well John Evans Allibone seems to have been a bit of a character as I have found out a bit more today (I think!!)

I know, from the marriage cert. for his daughter that me was a musician. So based on that, his dob from finding his marriage to Eliza Webb and his place of birth I have been searching nearly all day.

On the 1861 census he is shown as living in Cardiff with a 'wife' Ann, and with an occupation of Musician, says he was born in Chatham, Kent in the right year - so it looks like the same person. However, the original wife, Eliza Webb (Allibone on the census) is shown living in Chatham as married and with no new husband. On the 1851 census I have a John Allebond - born in Chatham, with an occupation as what looks like a professional singer, living in Southwark St John as a lodger, but with a 'wife' Mary. Again the original wife Eliza is shown o the 1851 census as living in Chatham, again as married but with no husband at the address.

I don't know where to look for divorce records, and can't find him as ever marrying anyone other than Eliza.

What a muddle!! and I'm tempted to say what a rougue!! He would be my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather!!!!

I'm even more confused now!

Hi Michelle - I was wondering if you may be able to help me as you said you had access to passenger lists dor the UK. I don't have a huge deal of information but I'll give you what I have.

My Grandmother is named Florence May Mason born in 1919 Boldon Colliery and she is the child of Elvire Maria Manns or Marmo (we don't know which) who was born in Gent, Belgium. I can't confirn Elvire's surname as I have as yet been unable to find the birth of my grandmother though I am assured they are correct. I know the forenames are correct as my mother was named after her. My Grandmother aslo had two brothers: Colin and Frederick both born Boldon Colliery and my mother told me that when Colin joined the Navy Elvire had to travel to London to clear up some 'problems' with his birth certificate???

I was told that Elvire Maria's mother was named Florence May Nicholson who went to Belgium either with her brother or to see him where she married a blind musician - I kid you not - named Georges Manns/Marmo.
Consequently they divorced and Florence returned to North East England with her daughter and remarried. My mother was told that Florence Nicholson was the daughter of the owners of Vaux Breweries in Sunderland. Research has shown this is false and I have subsequently been unable to find information on any of my ancestors until my Grandmothers (Flo. Mason)marriage.

PHEW - I hope you don't find all that as confusing as I do. What I need to know if possible is whether you can locate Florence May and Elvire Maria on a passenger list. I have no idea of dates but it would have been proir to 1919. To be honest I think my mother thinks her Grandmother was a Nazi on the run as she burned all her documents and letters when she discovered she had cancer.

Hop you can help - I certainly need some

i michelle will you please look for henry andrews 1869 barnsley wife eliza .
would like there parents please or any info i will be happy with thank you for a great job you do

Hi Michelle
I wonder if you might try to help me? I have been trying, without any success to find the death of Ernest Robert Landymore, born Marylebone, London,1894. His parents were Robert Landymore b.1872 and Lydia Hayes b.1869 on the 1901 census they were living @ 74 Leather Lane,Holborn.
His brothers and sisters were:
Percy Landymore age 6
Nelson Landymore age 4
Mary Landymore age 3
Lawrence Landymore age 3 ( twins??)
also living with them is:
William Hayes age 23 ( presumably Lydias brother)
Agnes Rudding age 22

Ernest married Annie E Pell Dec 1924 St.Pancras, London.
After that there is nothing!!!
Annie died 22/6/1961 and on her death cert it states `widow of George Landymore,occ.Stone Mason` They were living 52 Northchurch Road, Dalston,Hackney at the time of Ernests death around 1952/3 and Annie was still living there when she died.
Ernest used the name George (for some unknown reason) and he had done so for many years.
George(ernest) He died in hospital, not sure which one but presume it nearest one to home?
Every qtr, year by year from 1949 to 1st qtr 1960 has been searched, but absolutely nothing!!!
Can you see where I am going wrong or maybe missisg something?
I really would appreciate some help/advice on this as I have tried every variation of surname /first name etc I can think of and I now can`t think at all !! Please try to help Michelle if you possibly can.
Thankyou
Cathy
I will be away from computor until this evening but will check in then .I hope I have given enough information for you, and if there are any questions I will attempt to answer them later
regards,cathy

To all waiting

I will get back to your requests.Just very busy.appreciate your patience.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,
i'm looking for information for james and rose mccormick nee duffey, the only info i've got is that they lived at 36, randall street, bolton, lancs this is from their son's marriage cert in 1904, and i can only guess their year of birth 1840-50's. when their son was born in 1877 they lived at 81, wellington street, bolton.

thanx
val

Hi Michelle

I wondered if it would be possible to do me a census look up please, i have hit a brick wall.

I am searching for a Aaron Noon And Hannah Elizabeth Noon (nee Herring) Hannah was born 1851 Lowdham/southwell.

Would it be possible to do Census searches for 1881 1891 and 1901, Ibelive that they had children named John, Herbert and Daniel.

they lived Heanor/basford area.

I hope that you can help me and any information would be very much appreciated thank you.

Hello again Michelle

I have some more information that has turned up in todays post via a birth certficate. Eliza was born in 1845 (20th July). and her birth registered on what looks like the 20th August 1845.

Firstly on the marriage certificate it shows the witnesses as William Joseph Webb and Ann Webb (I believe these to be Eliza's parents) The marriage cert. is dated in 1863 and shows Eliza as being 20, so I guess age wasn't recorded properly back then.

On Eliza'a brith certificate it shows her father as John Evans Allibone and her mother as Eliza Allibone (Formerly Webb) and the place of birth as Cross Street, Chatham. His occupation on the marriage certificate is Musician and on the birth certificate as Boot Maker.

On the 1851 census the family are shown as Allborn (I think - but it is definately them and the handwriting is hard to read) on Ancestry and on the 1861 as Allibone. In neither case is John present, but he was still around when Eliza married in 1863. On the 1861 census Eliza is also missing but shows as a visitor and cousin to a Durling family, also in Chatham. I hope this helps.

Thanks again

Debs

Elaine

Sorry cannot see any children for the couple.Are you certain she married Henry?Always poss they had no children or maybe 1 or the other died?

Michelle