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Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	Joan	Report	29 Mar 2009 12:28
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	Thasnk you so much for the long,long list Michelle.It was quite a surprise to see the occupations.I've tried to find Marion Inglis' death on Scotlandspeople in the 1870s without any luck. I shouldn't think divorce was likely in those days .I'm wondering whether the first son for James,also James,in the 1891 census you gave me earlier could be Marion's son rather than Euphemia's.He's no longer with the family in 1901-he should be about 23 and was born Peebles.The two marriages seem awfully close. Joan
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 11:08
	Dawn Poss death for Mary H Salt...wife of Herbert England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Hannah Salt Name: Mary Hannah Salt Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Year of Registration: 1899 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 41 District: Chapel En Le Frith County: Derbyshire Volume: 7b Page: 540 (click to see others on page) Will look back and see what i can find on earlier census records.
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 11:05
	Dawn 1901 for this Herbert 1901 England Census about Herbert Salt Name: Herbert Salt Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Dove Holes, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: Chapel en le Frith St Thomas a Becket County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 40 Alice Salt 16 George Salt 7 1901 England Census about Alice Salt Name: Alice Salt Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Gender: Female Where born: Dove Holes, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: Chapel en le Frith St Thomas a Becket County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 40 Alice Salt 16 George Salt 7 1901 England Census about George Salt Name: George Salt Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Gender: Male Where born: Dove Holes, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: Chapel en le Frith St Thomas a Becket County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 58 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 40 Alice Salt 16 George Salt 7 Herbert now a Widower and a General Labourer Address Buxton Road
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 11:02
	Dawn Here looks like a poss marriage for Herbert also lists his father's name England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Herbert Salt Name: Herbert Salt Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1862 Age: 23 Father's Name: James Salt Spouse's Name: Mary Hannah Allcock Spouse's Age: 25 Spouse's Father's Name: Josiah Bradley Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1885 Marriage Place: Chapel-En-Le-Frith, Derbyshire, England Here looks like a poss 1891 1891 England Census about Herbert Salt Name: Herbert Salt Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary H Gender: Male Where born: N Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Bowden Edge County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 30 Mary H Salt 31 Martha E Allcock 11 Annie E Allcock 9 Alice Salt 5 1891 England Census about Mary H Salt Name: Mary H Salt Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Herbert Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Bowden Edge County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 30 Mary H Salt 31 Martha E Allcock 11 Annie E Allcock 9 Alice Salt 5 1891 England Census about Martha E Allcock Name: Martha E Allcock Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Mary H Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Bowden Edge County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 30 Mary H Salt 31 Martha E Allcock 11 Annie E Allcock 9 Alice Salt 5 1891 England Census about Annie E Allcock Name: Annie E Allcock Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Mary H Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Bowden Edge County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 30 Mary H Salt 31 Martha E Allcock 11 Annie E Allcock 9 Alice Salt 5 1891 England Census about Alice Salt Name: Alice Salt Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Herbert Mother's Name: Mary H Gender: Female Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chapel En Le Frith Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Bowden Edge County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Herbert Salt 30 Mary H Salt 31 Martha E Allcock 11 Annie E Allcock 9 Alice Salt 5 Herbert a Limestone Quarryman Address 13 Brick Row
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 10:54
	Joan 1901 Continued... 1901 Scotland Census about Effie Inglis Name: Effie Inglis Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Female Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Scholar ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Joseph Inglis Name: Joseph Inglis Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Scholar ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Gordon Inglis Name: Gordon Inglis Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Scholar ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 16 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Elizabeth Inglis Name: Elizabeth Inglis Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Tredomiur, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Cook (domestic) ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 17 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Isabella Davidson Name: Isabella Davidson Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: House Lable Mair ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Annie Third Name: Annie Third Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Garmonth, Edgirsshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Houseman ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 19 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 Hope info helps.
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 10:51
	Joan no sign on the 1881 and as she is with family i would say it's likely he was away. Here is the 1901 and his age has been mistranscribed as 38 born 1863. 1901 Scotland Census about James Inglis Name: James Inglis Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Biggar, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Cotton Merchant (retires) ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Euphemia Inglis Name: Euphemia Inglis Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Gender: Female Where born: Innerleithen, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Cotton Merchant Wife ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Robert Inglis Name: Robert Inglis Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Civil Engineer ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about Otto Inglis Name: Otto Inglis Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Medical Student ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 1901 Scotland Census about George Inglis Name: George Inglis Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Peebles, Peeblesshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles Town: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Edderston Road "tantah House" Occupation: Scholar ED: 10 Household schedule number: 15 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1901_417 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 38 Euphemia Inglis 48 Robert Inglis 19 Otto Inglis 18 George Inglis 16 Effie Inglis 14 Joseph Inglis 12 Gordon Inglis 10 Elizabeth Inglis 35 Isabella Davidson 17 Annie Third 16 Continue....
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: February 2009 Posts: 12 Send Message	Beverley	Report	29 Mar 2009 10:39
Member Since: February 2009 Posts: 12 Send Message	Thanks Michelle! Can't believe you found so much - especially when nobody seems to be able to spell their names! You've been a huge help!
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	Joan	Report	29 Mar 2009 09:47
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	hello again Michelle-many thanks for all your effort.It's the last list -the Tantah House one -that I think is likely to be the one.James Inglis is the right age,born Biggar and in the cotton business as his 1874 marriage reg.to Marion Muir Somerville states.I found this for 1881-Euphemia Inglis age 27 born Innerleithen,son James Inglis age three born Peebles,with her parents Robert Mathieson ,a farmer,in Edderston,Peebles but no sign of husband James.Perhaps he was abroad? Can you try for him in 1881 and this family in 1901 please.Many thanks, Joan
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	29 Mar 2009 00:37
	Joan Hi there!Only 1 i can see on the census married to Marion with correct birthyear is this 1 on the 1901.However he is listed as a Coal Merchant? 1901 Scotland Census about James Inglis Name: James Inglis Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Marion Gender: Male Where born: Carluke, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 624 Registration district: Blantyre Civil Parish: Blantyre County: Lanarkshire Address: 39 Mc Alpines Bld Occupation: Coal Merchant ED: 7A Household schedule number: 265 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1901_246 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 58 Marion Inglis 51 Alexander Inglis 14 Henry Nelson 27 1901 Scotland Census about Marion Inglis Name: Marion Inglis Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : James Gender: Female Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 624 Registration district: Blantyre Civil Parish: Blantyre County: Lanarkshire Address: 39 Mc Alpines Bld Occupation: Coal Merchant's Wife ED: 7A Household schedule number: 265 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1901_246 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 58 Marion Inglis 51 Alexander Inglis 14 Henry Nelson 27 1901 Scotland Census about Alexander Inglis Name: Alexander Inglis Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Marion Gender: Male Where born: Hamilton, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 624 Registration district: Blantyre Civil Parish: Blantyre County: Lanarkshire Address: 39 Mc Alpines Bld Occupation: Grocer's Vanman ED: 7A Household schedule number: 265 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1901_246 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 58 Marion Inglis 51 Alexander Inglis 14 Henry Nelson 27 1901 Scotland Census about Henry Nelson Name: Henry Nelson Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 624 Registration district: Blantyre Civil Parish: Blantyre County: Lanarkshire Address: 39 Mc Alpines Bld Occupation: Contractor's Labourer ED: 7A Household schedule number: 265 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1901_246 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 58 Marion Inglis 51 Alexander Inglis 14 Henry Nelson 27 and the same family on the 1891 listed as Ingles 1891 Scotland Census about James Ingles Name: James Ingles Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Marion Gender: Male Where born: Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 624 Registration district: Blantyre Civil Parish: Blantyre County: Lanarkshire Address: 39 McAlpines Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 7 Household schedule number: 222 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1891_223 Household Members: Name Age James Ingles 49 Marion Ingles 41 John Ingles 15 Robert Ingles 13 Catherine Ingles 9 Jane Ingles 7 Alexander Ingles 4 A coal miner. Do you have any of the children's names? Only family i found last time was this 1 1891 Scotland Census about James Inglis Name: James Inglis Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Euphemia Gender: Male Where born: Biggar, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 768 Registration district: Peebles Civil Parish: Peebles County: Peeblesshire Address: Tantah House Occupation: Cotton Merchant ED: 10 Household schedule number: 4 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_380 Household Members: Name Age James Inglis 48 Euphemia Inglis 39 James M Inglis 12 Robert J Inglis 9 Francis Otts Inglis 8 Evelyn G Inglis 6 Effie M Inglis 4 Joseph W Inglis 2 Gordon S Inglis 3 Mo Sarah Goodwin 23 Jessie Tennant 15 Jessie Armstrong 15
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2004 Posts: 417 Send Message	Dawn	Report	28 Mar 2009 15:53
	Hi Michelle Thanks for your kind offer. Was wondering if you could see if you could find HERBERT SALT, born 1861c, Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire on any of the earlier census. He is listed as a widower and a Limestone Quarryman on the 1911 census, living in Dove Holes, Derbyshire. Have come across him living with my great Gran just days before she gave birth to my Grandad, who took Herbert's name. He then later changed it when he was older (have only just found all this out). Any info that you might find on Herbert would be a great help. Thanks Dawn
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	Joan	Report	28 Mar 2009 10:40
Member Since: August 2005 Posts: 272 Send Message	Hi Michelle, Can you please give me the details of this family in Peebles ,Peebleshire in 1891-James Inglis born 1843 in Biggar,Lanarkshire.I got it once before but didn't think it was the person I'm looking for.My James Inglis married a Marion Muir Somerville in Eddleston,Peebles in 1874.I can't find either of them in 1881 and no sign of any children.However ,the marriage certificate says he was a cotton merchant and I remember the 1891 James Inglis in Peebles was also a cotton merchant but with a different wife. Many thanks, Joan
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	28 Mar 2009 09:55
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Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 203 Send Message	dogsB	Report	24 Mar 2009 15:01
Member Since: July 2008 Posts: 203 Send Message	Alfred marriage age 20 or 22 yr s. birth yr 1869-1872 his father in 1881 census birth is 1851 he is living with Agnes r henry 26 head, John henry 26 wife, John Reid 22 brother-in-law born port Glasgow. Martha Reid 20 sister-in-law born port Glasgow. James Ritchie is a widow and working as a slater. Witness at Alfred's wedding in 1892 at woolwich Middlesex , William henry curse and Frederick Thomas street .Have Alfred in 1891/1901 census only and James in 1881 only. Many thank you for your time. karon
Member Since: November 2002 Posts: 7 Send Message	Emma	Report	24 Mar 2009 10:58
Member Since: November 2002 Posts: 7 Send Message	Hi Michelle Thanks for the info... sorry, haven't got back to you sooner... Emily Kivles (or Hives)marriage certificate states that at the time of her marriage in April 1882, her father John was a Labourer. Her marriage certificate states that she was also living at Fowler Street. Witnesses at the wedding were Robert Anderson and Clara Annie Sanderson. Hope that helps... Thanks Em
Member Since: June 2005 Posts: 177 Send Message	Nicola	Report	24 Mar 2009 06:43
Member Since: June 2005 Posts: 177 Send Message	Hi Michelle Ive got Johns marriage cert. He was 40 when he got married and Martha was 26, big gap. His father was John Manners, soldier, deceased. The witnesses were William and Mary Gretton and they married at what looks to be Sheffield Parish Church on 27.10.1878. The spelling of his fathers name could read Mannear. A GR member told me that spellings of surnames did change due to peoples inability to read and write properly. Dont know if this will help Thanks for your help Nicky
Member Since: February 2004 Posts: 188 Send Message	angie2405	Report	24 Mar 2009 00:32
	Hi Michelle I'm hoping you can help me with this family: William John Oakes m Annie Walker in 1895 at St Mary's Church, Gt Budworth, Cheshire. I found them on the 1911 census: William John Oakes, b1872, age 39 Annie Oakes, b1875, age 37 Jennie Oakes, b1896, age 15 .... b1896 MAR Northwich 8a 263 John William Oakes, b1899, age 12 ... b1898 SEP Northwich 8a 262 Gladys Oakes, b1904, age 7 .... b1904 JUN Northwich 8a 263 I have no idea where William and Annie were born. Could you see if you could find the family on any earlier census please Kind Regards Angie
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 361 Send Message	Catherine	Report	24 Mar 2009 00:06
Member Since: June 2007 Posts: 361 Send Message	Hi Michelle Thanks for the reply,I know you are snowed under. I really don`t have any firm evidence as to his date of death or where he is buried,just his grandaughters recollection of when she thinks he died, and the address of his wife when she died, and the date of her death ( as she was stated as the widow of `George` Landymore ) I will keep looking and perhaps the local reg office may be able to come up with something as you say. Thankyou very much for trying michelle,I do appreciate it best wishes,cathy x
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	23 Mar 2009 23:42
	Emma Appears he was a Mark Maker this John 1881 England Census about John Hives Name: John Hives Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 271 Abbey Dale Rd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View Image Occupation: Mark Maker (Die/Seal Etc) Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 46 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eliza Parkin 66 Emily Hives 48 Emily Hives 17 Eliza Hives 21 John Hives 50 Lucy Flintoft 32 Surnames looks similar so wonder if the marriage record is a spelling error??And should read Hives?Let me know re occupation and also Witness names.
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	23 Mar 2009 23:38
	Emma 1871 poss Continued.... 1871 England Census about Sarah Sleith Name: Sarah Sleith Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 1871 England Census about Thomas Sleith Name: Thomas Sleith Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 John oh how annoying...can't see 1st word!!2nd is maker-word cut was put after it. William and Thomas File Cutters Address 31 Dummerfield Street Will check other census records to see whether i can see his occupation.
	Researching: Jepson, Bishop, Meech, Bevis, Ayling, King, Buckley
Member Since: September 2007 Posts: 2,597 Send Message	*Michelle*	Report	23 Mar 2009 23:33
	Emma What was her father John's occupation? I wonder if this could be her?Under Hives? 1871 England Census about John Hives Name: John Hives Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 1871 England Census about Emily Hives Name: Emily Hives Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 1871 England Census about Eliza Hives Name: Eliza Hives Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Emily Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 1871 England Census about Emily Hives Name: Emily Hives Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Emily Gender: Female Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 1871 England Census about William Sleith Name: William Sleith Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sheffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View Image Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 43 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 151 Household Members: Name Age John Hives 39 Emily Hives 38 Eliza Hives 11 Emily Hives 7 William Sleith 50 Sarah Sleith 60 Thomas Sleith 18 Continue....
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