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Thank you Michelle, this is certainly my William and the date must be wrong as he married just 2 years later and was over 21. Any luck with his father James? Your help is appreciated.
Maureen

Maureen

Looks like i have found William under Whitten on the 1841 address is York Place as of the marriage cert

1841 England Census
about Harriet Martin
Name: Harriet Martin
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Martin 40
William Whitten 15
Joseph Halifax 5

1841 England Census
about William Whitten
Name: William Whitten
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Martin 40
William Whitten 15
Joseph Halifax 5

1841 England Census
about Joseph Halifax
Name: Joseph Halifax
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East
Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington East
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Martin 40
William Whitten 15
Joseph Halifax 5

Harriet can't read sorry could be Milliner??
William a Clerk i feel the age of William maybe incorrect as the 1841 was not always accurate and can be up to 5 years out.Also as he is a Clerk i would say he's prob nearer 20.

Address York Place and no number although it is the 1st house in the road so must be number 1

Tina

1861 continued for Sarah Stanford nee Jordan

1861 England Census
about Louisa Jordan
Name: Louisa Jordan
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about Sarah Jordan
Name: Sarah Jordan
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about James Jordan
Name: James Jordan
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about William Jordan
Name: William Jordan
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

James a Bricklayer
Edward an Apprentice Shoemaker
Emma and Louisa Lacemakers

Address Back Street


Well that's all i can do for now.Hope info helps and on the other side of the family also.

Tina

Going back to Sarah Stanford Mary Ann's mother her maiden name was Jordan and not Gordon.The 1881 showed a William Gordon as brother in law to the Head but below here is the 1861 for Sarah and family and her brother William there also and surname is Jordan.So Gordon is a transcript error.

So here is the 1861 for Sarah Stanford nee Jordan

1861 England Census
about James Jordan
Name: James Jordan
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: N, Sollers Son

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about Sarah Jordan
Name: Sarah Jordan
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about Susan Jordan
Name: Susan Jordan
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about Edward Jordan
Name: Edward Jordan
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

1861 England Census
about Emma Jordan
Name: Emma Jordan
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Eynesbury
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age
James Jordan 47
Sarah Jordan 46
Susan Jordan 18
Edward Jordan 15
Emma Jordan 12
Louisa Jordan 10
Sarah Jordan 8
James Jordan 5
William Jordan 2

Continue....

Tina

Gosh this has taken some finding!!I think this maybe the marriage of Joseph and Mary Wyles his name spelt as Wiles

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Mary Church 1875 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
View Record

Joseph Wiles 1875 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Joseph Wiles
Name: Joseph Wiles
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Peterborough
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 393 (click to see others on page)

Dates good for the birth of Herbert 1876.

Mary Church matches the details of Mary Wyles...both Peterborough and around the same birthyear...here is a 1861 of Mary

1861 England Census
about Mary Church
Name: Mary Church
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah F
Gender: Female
Where born: Newark, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 76
Household Members: Name Age
John Church 30
Sarah F Church 36
Elizabeth Church 11
Mary Church 9
Sarah Church 8
Flora Church 6
John Church 3
Stephen Church 1

I couldnt see any other marriage that fitted under Wyles?So could be a good poss.

Make sure to check back on previous page as there is more info there.

Michelle

Tina

Joseph is proving a tricky 1.I wonder if his mother married and they are under another name?So the name you mentioned he was born as,have you got the birth cert?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Joseph Whitehead Wyles
Name: Joseph Whitehead Wyles
Year of Registration: 1841
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Spalding
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 14
Page: 509 (click to see others on page)

If you have not got this cert i would advise you to get it.

Tina

Marriage of Caleb and Mary Ann

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
William Hill 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
View Record
Mary Jordan 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
View Record
Mary Ann Sawyer 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
View Record
Caleb Stanford 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Caleb Stanford
Name: Caleb Stanford
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Neots
County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 451 (click to see others on page)

Well i am sure that must have helped and will do more soon on the other side.

Tina

1871 for William Stanford-father of Mary Ann with his parents

1871 England Census
about George Stanford
Name: George Stanford
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about Samuel Stanford
Name: Samuel Stanford
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Stanford
Name: Mary Ann Stanford
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Little Barford, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

Caleb a Ag Lab
William and John Ag Labs

Address Hillfarm Cottage

Tina

1871 for William living in same reg area as the 1872 marriage

1871 England Census
about Caleb Stanford
Name: Caleb Stanford
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Stanford
Name: Mary Ann Stanford
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Caleb
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about William Stanford
Name: William Stanford
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about John Stanford
Name: John Stanford
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

1871 England Census
about Thomas Stanford
Name: Thomas Stanford
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Caleb
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Little Barford
Town: Little Barford
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: St Neots
Sub registration district: St Neots
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Caleb Stanford 39
Mary Ann Stanford 39
William Stanford 18
John Stanford 16
Thomas Stanford 11
George Stanford 8
Samuel Stanford 6
Mary Ann Stanford 4

Continue.....

Tina

1881 Continued....

1881 England Census
about Flory E. Stanford
Name: Flory E. Stanford
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

1881 England Census
about Thomas Stanford
Name: Thomas Stanford
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Eaton Socon, Bedfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

1881 England Census
about William Gordon
Name: William Gordon
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Brother in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Blacksmith

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

Poss marriage for William and Sarah

Sarah Jordan 1872 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
View Record

William Stanford 1872 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Stanford
Name: William Stanford
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: St Neots
County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 559 (click to see others on page)

Just checked the census for 1881 and the writing of the J in Jordan could have looked like Gordon....
Will look back and check after i finish William.

Tina

Over to Mary Ann Stanford

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Ann Stanford
Name: Mary Ann Stanford
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Neots
County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 286 (click to see others on page)

You mentioned you had the 1891 so won't break it up

1891 England Census
about Mary A Stanford
Name: Mary A Stanford
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 39
Sarah Stanford 38
Mary A Stanford 16
John W Stanford 14
Florrie E Stanford 11
Alfred Stanford 9
Sarah A Stanford 8
George E Stanford 6
Sydney Stanford 5
James Stanford 1
Agnes L Stanford 4/12

Here is the 1881 for Mary and her parents William and Sarah

1881 England Census
about William Stanford
Name: William Stanford
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Railway Lab

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

1881 England Census
about Sarah Stanford
Name: Sarah Stanford
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

1881 England Census
about Mary Stanford
Name: Mary Stanford
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

1881 England Census
about John Stanford
Name: John Stanford
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Reform Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Stanford 29
Sarah Stanford 28
Mary Stanford 6
John Stanford 4
Flory E. Stanford 1
Thomas Stanford 22
William Gordon 23

Continue....

Tina

1881 under Whyles

1881 England Census
about Joseph Whyles
Name: Joseph Whyles
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whyles 38
Mary Whyles 30
Herbert Whyles 5
John Whyles 3

1881 England Census
about Mary Whyles
Name: Mary Whyles
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whyles 38
Mary Whyles 30
Herbert Whyles 5
John Whyles 3

1881 England Census
about Herbert Whyles
Name: Herbert Whyles
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whyles 38
Mary Whyles 30
Herbert Whyles 5
John Whyles 3

1881 England Census
about John Whyles
Name: John Whyles
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Whyles 38
Mary Whyles 30
Herbert Whyles 5
John Whyles 3

Tina

I know you have this 1 so wont break record up

1891 England Census
about Herbert Wyles
Name: Herbert Wyles
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 48
Mary Wyles 40
Herbert Wyles 15
John Wyles 13
Stephen Wyles 5

I am off to bed now and will continue when next on...very late and i'm tired.

Michelle

Tina

1901 of parents of Herbert continued....

1901 England Census
about Mary A Stanford
Name: Mary A Stanford
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 58
Mary Wyles 50
Stephen Wyles 15
Caroline Palmer 18
Mary A Stanford 26


Joseph a Scavenger...this was a rubbish collector
Caroline a Laundress
Mary A a Tailoress

Address 28 Wellington Street

Tina

Hi Tina,will see what i can find....

First here is his marriage of 1901
Mary Ann Stanford 1901 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
View Record
Herbert Wyles 1901 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Herbert Wyles
Name: Herbert Wyles
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Peterborough
County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 592 (click to see others on page)

You may already have this info?

here is the Parents of Herbert on the 1901 and look at who is visiting!Joseph's birthplace does seem to change census to census!

1901 England Census
about Joseph Wyles
Name: Joseph Wyles
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Gorleston, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 58
Mary Wyles 50
Stephen Wyles 15
Caroline Palmer 18
Mary A Stanford 26

1901 England Census
about Mary Wyles
Name: Mary Wyles
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Newark, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 58
Mary Wyles 50
Stephen Wyles 15
Caroline Palmer 18
Mary A Stanford 26

1901 England Census
about Stephen Wyles
Name: Stephen Wyles
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 58
Mary Wyles 50
Stephen Wyles 15
Caroline Palmer 18
Mary A Stanford 26

1901 England Census
about Caroline Palmer
Name: Caroline Palmer
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England

Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary
Town: Peterborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Peterborough
Sub registration district: Peterborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Wyles 58
Mary Wyles 50
Stephen Wyles 15
Caroline Palmer 18
Mary A Stanford 26

Continue....

Maureen

I am still looking for you...haven't forgotten you.

Michelle

David

Sorry nothing much coming up.I have seen the gentlemen poss siblings on the census records...and they are listed as Wigan birth.I have looked under the Wigan births on 2 sites and can see no baptism for them.Only McSorley's i can find for that surname are these mixed records below.I dont know if they are connected?

Marriage: 24 Feb 1839 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Joseph McSorley - Full Age Book Keeper Bachelor of Cross Hall St
Diana Lund - Full Age Spinster of Church Alley
Groom's Father: Matthew McSorley
Bride's Father: George Parkinson Lund, Joiner
Witness: Elijah Sarratt; Frances Yates
Married by Banns by: Thos. Halton Curate
Register: Marriages 1839, Page 41, Entry 81
Source: LDS Film 93290

Baptisms: 3 Jun 1844 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James McSorley - Child of James Joseph McSorley & Diana
Born: 3 May 1844
Abode: Highfield St
Occupation: Book Keeper
Baptised by: J G Headlam, Curate
Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1844, Page 209, Entry 1668
Source: LDS Film 93884

Baptisms: 27 Dec 1885 All Souls, Bolton, Lancashire, England
William James McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Eliza Jane
Abode: 27 Draycott St
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: Wm Popplewell
Register: Baptisms 1880 - 1897, Page 71, Entry 566
Source: LDS Film No.2149611

Baptisms: 5 Oct 1887 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Charles McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Elizabeth Jane
Abode: 29 Lyon St.
Occupation: Tailor
Baptised by: C.Cronshaw
Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1888, Page 169, Entry 1347
Source: LDS Film 2113024

Baptisms: 25 Oct 1891 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Albert McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Eliza Jane
Abode: 305 Vernon St.
Occupation: Tailor & Draper
Baptised by: Percy Stott Curate
Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1894, Page 156, Entry 1247
Source: LDS Film 2113024

Baptisms: 25 Oct 1891 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Eliza Jane McSorley - Daughter of William McSorley & Eliza Jane
Abode: 305 Vernon St.
Occupation: Tailor & Draper
Baptised by: Percy Stott Curate
Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1894, Page 156, Entry 1248
Source: LDS Film 2113024


Do you live in the Lancashire area?if you do maybe an idea to search around at the parish records in Wigan by contacting the records office of Lancashire.They would advise where the records are kept.If you are lucky the marriage of 1836 may have Hugh's father's name?
I also saw the marriage of 1794 and agree it could be a poss for parents of Hugh and siblings.

Sorry i haven't any records to help.

Mcsorley Name Meaning and History
Scottish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Somhairle ‘son of Somhairle’, a Gaelicized form of an Old Norse personal name composed of the elements sumar ‘summer’ + liðr ‘seafarer’.

Although there are also many Irish Mcsorley's also.

Best of luck David.

Hello Michelle

I have a new one for you as I have hit a complete brick wall!, this is what I do have

1911 census Herbert Wyles 35 born peterborough northants, family Mary Ann wife mary daughter Stephen son, living enfield middlesex, telegraph linesman

1901 census Herbert Wyles boarding Islington, London Telegraph linesman.

1891 census Herbert Wyles living with Father Joseph, Mother Mary (not sure if bIrth mother?or by marrage)brothers John 13 and Stephen 5

I have been unable to trace any of them before this date, I have Josephs death dec1910 and birth 6th dec 1841 his mother is listed as mary wyles, he is listed as Joseph whithead wyles father blank.

I also have tryed to trace Herberts wife in the census and again have drawn blank, she is Mary Ann Stanford born 12 july 1874 st neots, beds, cambs parents william stanford and sarah stanford (jordan) again no luck with any census before 1891

I would be grateful again! if you have any clues where I can look.
Thanks for help with my other dead end I did contact the local history e-mail that you gave me but have had no reply yet, so will keep trying,
thanks.
Tina

sorry I have just realised I have Herberts Birth certificate!
born 23 march 1876 peterborough to mother Mary Wyles formerly church father joseph masons laborer. I have tryed to trace the church family too and no luck with them either!

Hi Michelle

i've hit a wall with my GGGgrandad Hugh McSorley.

i've found him on my GGgrandad's Thomas McSorley's [b:1827] marriage cert on the 22 may 1853 as deceased and in the 1841 census living in wigan with his wife Bridget and family and lastly on an IGI record being married to a Bridget McLonin on 2nd May 1836 at All Saints Church in Wigan.

None of these records indicate where he or his wife Bridget were born. One person suggested that Bridget was his second wife and her maiden name was McHarin.

There is also an IGI record of a James MacSorley marrying a Margaret Marsh on 5th May 1794 in Wigan. I think these maybe my GGGGgrandad and mother.

I've been given a list of James's children [not confirmed by me but apparently some links through James being on marriage certs and cross references of the children being present at the deaths of some of the others]. The names are:
1. Hugh McSorley b: 1801 [age 40 on 1841 census] GGGgrandad
2. Mary Mcsorley b: circa 1801 [unchecked]
3. Joseph McSorley b: circa 1805 d: 28th Dec 1866 [unchecked]
4. Susannah McSorley b: circa 1806 [unchecked]
5. Peter McSorley b: Circa 1808 d: 1878 [unchecked]
6. Thomas McSorley b: circa 1817 d: 1849 [unchecked]

sorry it's so long winded, hope you can help me out

thanks
dave

Michelle,
I have got to William Frederick Witten working back from my grandfather etc. he had a son Henry James born 27-8- 1843 in Hoxton New Town, Shoreditch, there address at that time was: 9 East Road, Hoxton New Town. William's marriage certificate's information is as follows:-
Married June 11th 1843 St. George in the East, I believe this is in Tower Hamlets.
Age: Full, Eliza's age: minor
Rank/profession: merchandile clerk
Address: 1 Yorke Place, Islington, Eliza's address: Charlotte Street, Shoreditch
Father's Names: James Witten - Carpenter, Charles Burrey, Laceman?
Witnesses: ? Cooke? and Hannah Hathway Burrey
I have questioned marked a couple of things that were quite hard to read.
I believe they would have stayed in London as his son Henry James was also a clerk in the stock exchange.
Can find no record of either James or William's birth but they must both have been born before 1830's.
Your help is very much appreciated.
Maureen