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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 23:10

Sarah

Here is your other lookup

1901 England Census
about Henry Edward Pollard
Name: Henry Edward Pollard
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Redbourn

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

1901 England Census
about Ellen Eliza Pollard
Name: Ellen Eliza Pollard
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

1901 England Census
about Ethel Georgenia Pollard
Name: Ethel Georgenia Pollard
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Edward
Mother's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Coventry

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

1901 England Census
about Edith May Gertrude Pollard
Name: Edith May Gertrude Pollard
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Edward
Mother's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Leamington

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

1901 England Census
about Thomas Walter Pollard
Name: Thomas Walter Pollard
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Edward
Mother's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Leamington

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

Continued....














Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Apr 2009 22:53

Lol, thanks again, I am looking back trying to find William prior to 1891, interesting to see the link with the Greenslades there already. I'll give you a shout if I get stumped, just glad to have been able to go back another generation.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 22:47

Sarah

Hi and glad you had a dig too!!So you should be ok now?If is def her and although writing is poor i can make the surname out and the 1891 shows he is Mortimer.
How i found it....????Ooooh should i let me secrets away!!lol!!

I entered her 1st name and left surname blank on the 1901 census search and place year of birth and place of birth in the boxes and William father name down and ran a search and found the 1 i found for you was the top match up and surname looked kind of similar so checked the image.Now you know my secret.....keep it quiet!


Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 22:42

Sarah

Here is the marriage of William and Annie and the 1891 of William living in the Greenslade's house

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Annie Greenslade 1895 South Molton Devon

William Mortimer 1895 South Molton Devon

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Mortimer
Name: William Mortimer
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: South Molton
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 929 (click to see others on page)

1891 England Census
about James Greenslade
Name: James Greenslade
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Witheridge, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Witheridge
Town: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Greenslade 69
Ann Greenslade 56
George Greenslade 2
Edwin Greenslade 26
William Mortimer 20

1891 England Census
about Ann Greenslade
Name: Ann Greenslade
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: North Tawton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Witheridge
Town: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Greenslade 69
Ann Greenslade 56
George Greenslade 2
Edwin Greenslade 26
William Mortimer 20

1891 England Census
about George Greenslade
Name: George Greenslade
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Witheridge, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Witheridge
Town: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Greenslade 69
Ann Greenslade 56
George Greenslade 2
Edwin Greenslade 26
William Mortimer 20

1891 England Census
about Edwin Greenslade
Name: Edwin Greenslade
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheldon, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Witheridge
Town: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Greenslade 69
Ann Greenslade 56
George Greenslade 2
Edwin Greenslade 26
William Mortimer 20

1891 England Census
about William Mortimer
Name: William Mortimer
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Sandford, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Witheridge
Town: Witheridge
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Greenslade 69
Ann Greenslade 56
George Greenslade 2
Edwin Greenslade 26
William Mortimer 20

James Edwin and William all Ag Labs

Address 10 Pullins Row

Note George from the 1901 is here....i will look to see where Annie fits in???

















Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Apr 2009 22:39

Had a little dig myself now and William Mortimer married Annie Greenslade in S. Molton 1895. Prior to that, Annie Dart married Richard Greenslade 1883 in S. Molton. Gives me lots to work with!

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Apr 2009 22:31

Good grief, I tried a few mis-spellings but that one is impressive, however did you find it? I am positive that's her, though. You are a star!

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 22:27

Sarah

How's this for a transcript error!!!Writing is poor on the image but you can make it out as Mortimer

1901 England Census
about William Mortinas
Name: William Mortinas
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Sandford, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Mortinas 32
Annie Mortinas 33
George Greenslade 12
Edith Mertences 4
Winifred Mertences 1

1901 England Census
about Annie Mortinas
Name: Annie Mortinas
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: West Worlington, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Mortinas 32
Annie Mortinas 33
George Greenslade 12
Edith Mertences 4
Winifred Mertences 1

1901 England Census
about George Greenslade
Name: George Greenslade
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Witheridge, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Mortinas 32
Annie Mortinas 33
George Greenslade 12
Edith Mertences 4
Winifred Mertences 1

1901 England Census
about Edith Mertences
Name: Edith Mertences
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Witheridge, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Mortinas 32
Annie Mortinas 33
George Greenslade 12
Edith Mertences 4
Winifred Mertences 1

1901 England Census
about Winifred Mertences
Name: Winifred Mertences
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Witheridge, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Witheridge
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Molton
Sub registration district: Witheridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Household Members: Name Age
William Mortinas 32
Annie Mortinas 33
George Greenslade 12
Edith Mertences 4
Winifred Mertences 1

William a Horseman on a farm
George looks like a poss stepson?so will look back on previous census records to find out more on William Mortimer and when Annie became his wife

Address Poor writing...not good so poss Eleo Cottage??Next door to Wheadow Farm.

Will look for more.....


















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 22:08

Dawn

Still looking!!

Did find a poss marriage

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Jackson
Name: Sarah Jackson
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chapel En Le Frith
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: *30 (click to see others on page)

* means the transcriber can't read the number and i found this poss record for William

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Horrobin
Name: William Horrobin
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chapel En Le Frith
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 730 (click to see others on page)

I will check the 1851 under Jackson for Sarah

This could be her listed as a Servant on the census image...can't spot the 1841 at mo.

1851 England Census
about Sarah Jackson
Name: Sarah Jackson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Female
Where born: Chapel, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradshaw Edge
Town: Chapel En Le Frith
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Buxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 4a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 189
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Ashton 47
Francis Ashton 31
Hannah Dakin 58
Sarah Jackson 16










Dawn

Dawn Report 6 Apr 2009 20:19

Hi Michelle

Thanks for finding Sarah on 1891 census. They might be the same family as I know I'm related to the Higginbottoms on that side but didn't think it was that generation. Also I don't know Sarah's maiden name yet. As for her death I did find her gravestone when looking round a graveyard for another family member (seems there are a few of them buried all in one little village graveyard in Derbyshire). Sarah died 2 May 1906, aged 71. She is buried with her husband William and her daughter Martha Elizabeth who never married (she was born 1876c in Taxall, Cheshire). It's the next village along but is over the border in Cheshire. She might be there if you can't find her in Derbyshire.

Thanks again

Dawn

Sarah

Sarah Report 6 Apr 2009 19:40

Hi Michelle,

Guess you drew a blank with my last request so I got some more for you :D

Looking for a lady called Edith Mortimer. Her marriage cert and entry in 1911 census give birth as 1896 and 1911 census (in Exmouth) says she was born in Witheridge Devon. Unfortunately, she's in service here and not with family.

I know from her marriage cert (to Ernest Wilfred Davey) that her father was called William Mortimer and was a Farmer.

However, I can't find a birth record OR a 1901 census that matches!

There are two Edith Mortimores born in Devon around that time, one is Edith C. M. Mortimore and her father is Harry, can't see the other one in census:

Births Sep 1896 (>99%)
Mortimore Edith S. Molton 5b 408










Next one:

This one might be tough, Thomas Walter Pollard born 1894, father Henry Pollard, a groom (deceased by 1918). I don't know where he was born BUT, in 1918 he was "Private, London Regiment", could be from London? He married in Plymouth, though.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 16:49

Dawn

Not seeing her as yet on the 1901 will look more at this later tonight when i return from work.

Saw a death around 1913,do you know if this was her?1891 is on previous page.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 16:31

Dawn

1891 Continued....

1891 England Census
about Martha Eliza Higginbottom
Name: Martha Eliza Higginbottom
[Martha Eliza Horobin]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Laxall, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Lettuce Leah
Name: Lettuce Leah
Age: 75
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Mellor, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Hallam
Name: Elizabeth Hallam
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Shettleston, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Ward
Name: Elizabeth Ward
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Laxall, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

This maybe 2 households put together?The census image does look like they are seperate households.The confusion is that Sarah Horobin is listed as Mother and a widow and not as Head.I will write all ocupations down and i expect you will know if their is a connection to the other family although to me they do look separate on the image.

George a Colour Maker in a ? Works
Martha Eliz a Winder at Cotton Winder
Lettuce Living by own means
Elizabeth a Draper's assistant

Address Horwich Whaly Bridge
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 16:22

Dawn

Here is the 1891 you requested

1891 England Census
about George Higginbottom
Name: George Higginbottom
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Eliz
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hayfield, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Sarah Eliz Higginbottom
Name: Sarah Eliz Higginbottom
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: New Mills, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Joseph Higginbottom
Name: Joseph Higginbottom
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah Eliz
Gender: Male
Where born: New Mills, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Stanley Higginbottom
Name: Stanley Higginbottom
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah Eliz
Gender: Male
Where born: New Mills, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

1891 England Census
about Sarah Horobin
Name: Sarah Horobin
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Chapel En Le Frith, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Fernilee
Ecclesiastical parish: Hope St Peter
Town: Fernilee
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chapel En Le Frith
Sub registration district: Chapel en le Frith
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Higginbottom 26
Sarah Eliz Higginbottom 24
Joseph Higginbottom 2
Stanley Higginbottom 1
Sarah Horobin 55
Martha Eliza Higginbottom 15
Lettuce Leah 75
Elizabeth Hallam 55
Elizabeth Ward 14

Continue.....














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 15:18

Maureen

I will have a look later and see...it maybe that William was lodging at the house this would make sense if his father was dead.The 5 year old could be a nephew of the lady of the house.The 1841 is a tricky 1 as relationships are not shown.

I am working tonight but will look later tonight when i get home.

Michelle

Maureen

Maureen Report 6 Apr 2009 15:00

Michelle,
Was just wondering why there were 3 indepent people on that 1841 census for William Whitten, they don't seem to have any connection, Harriet Martin 40, my William and then a boy of 5, any ideas?
Maureen

Dawn

Dawn Report 6 Apr 2009 15:00

Hi Michelle

You've helped me in the past and hoped you might be able to help again.

I was wondering if you could look on the 1891 and 1901 census for SARAH HORROBIN (sometimes spelt with 1 R). Born 1835/1836 Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire. She was married to WILLIAM but he died in 1888 and they had 5 children together. Should still be living in the Derbyshire area but might have strayed over into Cheshire as was living on the border. Any info would be great.

Thanks Dawn

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 6 Apr 2009 14:57

Maureen

Not entirely sure re death cert however this is what''s normally on them.Also you would be able to get it as death certs began in 1837 and you use the vol number page number as you do on other records.

The death certificate shows where and when the deceased died, name and surname, sex, age (or d.o.b.), occupation (or last occupation if retired) and address, and cause of death, along with the signature, description and address of the person giving information about the death, along with when it was registered and the name of the registrar.

Might be worth taking the risk and sending for the cert to see if it was your James.

Hope that helps.I can't say for certain the death is your James you will need to obtain the cert to see that.Area fits and i couldn't see him on the 1841.

Michelle



Maureen

Maureen Report 6 Apr 2009 14:24

Michelle,
No don't think this is my James but have a feeling he must fit in somewhere because he and a couple of his sons work as clerks in stock exchange, also I have a Herbert and Frederick too.
Can you tell me what information I would gain from ordering his death certificate and could I get one for 1837?
Many thanks
Maureen

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 5 Apr 2009 20:32

Maureen

Possible death of James?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about James Witten
Name: James Witten
Year of Registration: 1837
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Islington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 134 (click to see others on page)

Quite often they are not marked as dead when they are on early marriage certs.Really depended if the question was asked or not.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 5 Apr 2009 20:22

Maureen

This is prob not your James as a little young and also occupation doesnt fit however thought you might want it for later reference as this James was a Share Dealer same as William.

1861 England Census
about James Witten
Name: James Witten
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Abbott
Town: Kensington
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 260
Household Members: Name Age
James Witten 56
Elizabeth Witten 54
George Fredk Witten 28
John Parsons Witten 24
Kate Witten 23
Francis Witten 19
Anne Witten 17
Augustus Herbert Witten 15
Florence Margt Witten 13
Ellen Thomas 22
Anne Thomson 20

James a Share Dealer
George a Collector
John a Clerk in the Stock Exchange
Francis a Clerk

Address 16 Garden Palace Villas

Maybe a connection??Interesting as its also Islington and occupations.