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David

This is a good poss for George.Living in Poplar,Bow area.

1871 England Census
about Thomas Bowler
Name: Thomas Bowler
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Bowler
Name: Elizabeth Bowler
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Thomas Bowler
Name: Thomas Bowler
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Joseph Bowler
Name: Joseph Bowler
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Bowler
Name: Elizabeth Bowler
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

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Chrissie

Sorry i don't have access to Irish records.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

I am trying to find the parentsof Jane Arnett nee Lovett. She was born 1873 and married a John Arnett in St peters church Athlone in 1895.
Her parents were Thomas Lovett and Anne Conlon, sorry I do not have any date of biths for both of them.
I believe they were in Athlone in 1873 when Jane was born. But I cannot find them anywhere.

Any help would be great.

Chrissie

Thanks Michelle that info got me right back to the 1790's .

could i trouble you for a try on a George Bowler born around 1858 in I think Poplar Bow but i'm not to sure on that.

I have him as a lodger living in Barrow in Furness in 1881 and then in 1891 in Wigan married to a girl called Emily with a Daughter Ada born in Barrow.

The rest of his life was spent in Wigan and i've got that covered pretty well but could you see if you can trace him back through the 1871 and 1861 and maybe find his birthplace.

thanks again for all your efforts

dave

Thanks Michelle, and thank you for the help you have already given. It might enable me to move forward, or I should say backward.
Maureen

Maureen

No sorry i haven't.Try a thread on the Records Office Board and see if anyone can help.

Good luck!

Michelle

Michelle,
re James Witten and William Frederick Witten.
What you said about the 1841 census makes sense, William could have been lodging there and the child could even have been her grandson.
I don't suppose you have access to births in London before the 1840's as I cannot find a record of birth for either of them on familysearch.
Many thanks
Maureen

David

1881 Continued....

1881 England Census
about Mary Ann Flannery
Name: Mary Ann Flannery
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Frame Tenter (Cotton)

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Julia Flannery
Name: Julia Flannery
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Bernard Flannery
Name: Bernard Flannery
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Catherine Flannery
Name: Catherine Flannery
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about James Flannery
Name: James Flannery
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

David

1881 for John

1881 England Census
about Matthew Flannery
Name: Matthew Flannery
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: C Mayo, Ireland

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Mary Flannery
Name: Mary Flannery
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Matthew
Gender: Female
Where born: Queens County, Ireland

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Thos. Flannery
Name: Thos. Flannery
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about John Flannery
Name: John Flannery
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

1881 England Census
about Ellen Flannery
Name: Ellen Flannery
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Matthew
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton In Mkd, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 25 Brynn St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Frame Tenter (Cotton)

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Matthew Flannery 43
Mary Flannery 40
Thos. Flannery 17
John Flannery 17
Ellen Flannery 16
Mary Ann Flannery 14
Julia Flannery 10
Bernard Flannery 8
Catherine Flannery 3
James Flannery 1

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David

1881 for Mary Cunliffe with mother now married

1881 England Census
about William Heaton
Name: William Heaton
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Gustavus Hillock
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Heaton 38
Esther Heaton 37
Mary Cunliffe 15
Margaret Heaton 7

1881 England Census
about Esther Heaton
Name: Esther Heaton
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Gustavus Hillock
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Heaton 38
Esther Heaton 37
Mary Cunliffe 15
Margaret Heaton 7

1881 England Census
about Mary Cunliffe
Name: Mary Cunliffe
[Mary Heaton]
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Gustavus Hillock
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Colliery Lab

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Heaton 38
Esther Heaton 37
Mary Cunliffe 15
Margaret Heaton 7

1881 England Census
about Margaret Heaton
Name: Margaret Heaton
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: Gustavus Hillock
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton In Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Heaton 38
Esther Heaton 37
Mary Cunliffe 15
Margaret Heaton 7

David

Marriage of Esther

Esther Cunliffe 1874 Wigan Greater Manchester, Lancashire
View Record
William Heaton 1874 Wigan Greater Manchester, Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Esther Cunliffe
Name: Esther Cunliffe
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Wigan
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 169 (click to see others on page)

David

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1871 England Census
about Mary Cunliffe
Name: Mary Cunliffe
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

Thomas a Coal Mine Lab
Esther i believe is the mother...she is unmarried and a Grocer's Servant
Peter a Pony Driver in Coal Mine

Address looks like Linis End Lane?

David

1871 for Mary

1871 England Census
about Thomas Cunliffe
Name: Thomas Cunliffe
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

1871 England Census
about Mary Cunliffe
Name: Mary Cunliffe
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

1871 England Census
about Ester Cunliffe
Name: Ester Cunliffe
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

1871 England Census
about Peter Cunliffe
Name: Peter Cunliffe
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

1871 England Census
about Betsey Cunliffe
Name: Betsey Cunliffe
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 126
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cunliffe 50
Mary Cunliffe 48
Ester Cunliffe 27
Peter Cunliffe 16
Betsey Cunliffe 11
Mary Cunliffe 5

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Hi MIchelle

thanks for the info.

i agree with you i'll need the marriage cert to sort out which lily taylor it is.

The John Flannery you found I think he was married to a Mary Cunliffe in Wigan in 1889. I've found the 1871 for John and know is father and mother came from Ireland, so now the hard work starts, but i can't find the 1871 for Mary Cunliffe.

can I trouble you for this record plus the 1881's for both of them

thanks dave

David

There are two possibles for Lily this 1 think is the most likely.Although really could be the other 1 too!Let me know if you don't have access to break the 2nd record up i found.

1901 England Census
about George Taylor
Name: George Taylor
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Billinge, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
George Taylor 32
Margaret Ann Taylor 32
Lily Taylor 5

1901 England Census
about Margaret Ann Taylor
Name: Margaret Ann Taylor
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
George Taylor 32
Margaret Ann Taylor 32
Lily Taylor 5

1901 England Census
about Lily Taylor
Name: Lily Taylor
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Margaret Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members: Name Age
George Taylor 32
Margaret Ann Taylor 32
Lily Taylor 5

George a Coal Miner - Hewer

Can't make the address out...writing is not good!

This is the other possible

1901 England Census
about Lily Taylor
Name: Lily Taylor
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel C
Mother's Name: Elizabeth A
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Wigan
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 120
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel C Taylor 36
Elizabeth A Taylor 36
Peter Taylor 16
Hannah Taylor 14
Andrew Taylor 10
Samuel C Taylor 8
Lily Taylor 5


Samuel a Wood Sawyers-Builders and a Grocer Shop Keeper

It really could be either!!!You will need the marriage cert to see father's name to ensure you get the right :Lily off the census records David.

Hope that has helped.

Michelle

David

Here is the 1901 for Matthew

Name: Matthew Flannery
Birth: Jun 1891 - Wigan, Greater Manchester, Lancashire


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Matthew Flannery
Name: Matthew Flannery
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Wigan
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 181 (click to see others on page)

1901 England Census
about John Flannery
Name: John Flannery
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannery 37
Mary Flannery 36
Matthew Flannery 10
Margaret Flannery 7
Lily Flannery 1

1901 England Census
about Mary Flannery
Name: Mary Flannery
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannery 37
Mary Flannery 36
Matthew Flannery 10
Margaret Flannery 7
Lily Flannery 1

1901 England Census
about Matthew Flannery
Name: Matthew Flannery
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannery 37
Mary Flannery 36
Matthew Flannery 10
Margaret Flannery 7
Lily Flannery 1

1901 England Census
about Margaret Flannery
Name: Margaret Flannery
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannery 37
Mary Flannery 36
Matthew Flannery 10
Margaret Flannery 7
Lily Flannery 1

1901 England Census
about Lily Flannery
Name: Lily Flannery
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashton in Makerfield

Civil Parish: Ashton in Makerfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Ashton in Makerfield Holy Trinity
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Ashton in Makerfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
John Flannery 37
Mary Flannery 36
Matthew Flannery 10
Margaret Flannery 7
Lily Flannery 1

John a Coal Miner-Hewer

Address 90 Rectory Road---the e of rectory could be an a?

Will do the other 1 in a bit and he was born in June so wont be on the 1891.

Hi Michelle

Thanks for your attempts on the McSorley's for me, i'm following your tips at the moment.

I've another sticking point you may be able to help me with.

My wife's grandad Matthew Flannery born AMJ 1891 in Wigan married a Lily Taylor born either JFM or AMJ 1896 in Wigan and they were married JFM 1930 in Wigan.

I,ve tried to find them on the 1891 and 1901 census but with no joy,
I was wandering if your records are better than mine and you could have a look for them for me.

thanks Dave

Sarah

The Leamington birthplace Thomas in Watford is the closest 1 i can see.Watford is very near to London...funnily i used to live there and my son was born there!Parts of the outskirts of Watford are actually under London.I wonder if he was stationed near Plymouth and this maybe where he met his wife?
Also think Ida is from the sposes side cos i have found a poss for her in Plymouth.
Military records may help.

Michelle

Hmmm, the fact that he's a horse keeper links with groom occupation on marriage cert. Looked them up on 1911 and Ellen is a widow by then so that ties in too

POLLARD, ELLEN ELIZA MOTHER MARRIED F 48 IRONER WARWICK BIRMINGHAM
POLLARD, THOMAS WALTER SON SINGLE M 15 DRAPERS ERRAND BOY COVENTRY WARWICK
POLLARD, DAISY EVELINE DAUGHTER F 13 SCHOOL WATFORD HERTS
POLLARD, HENRY GEORGE SON M 10 SCHOOL WATFORD HERTS


Address 23 LOATES LANE WATFORD County Hertfordshire
District Watford Subdistrict Watford
Enumeration District 10 Parish

On Thomas' marriage cert the witnesses are Mary Elizabeth Cooper (wife's relative) and Ida Maude Willcocks, although this was in Plymouth, some way from Hertfordshire!

Hadn't been expecting a link in Herts but the other things match, I had been looking for people around London. If I could find Thomas' military record, would it say he was born in Herts? That would confirm it totally.

Sarah

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1901 England Census
about Daisy Eveline Pollard
Name: Daisy Eveline Pollard
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Edward
Mother's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

1901 England Census
about Harry George Earnest Pollard
Name: Harry George Earnest Pollard
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Edward
Mother's Name: Ellen Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Watford, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Mary
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Watford
Sub registration district: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Edward Pollard 49
Ellen Eliza Pollard 39
Ethel Georgenia Pollard 15
Edith May Gertrude Pollard 10
Thomas Walter Pollard 6
Daisy Eveline Pollard 4
Harry George Earnest Pollard 1

Henry a Horsekeeper on a farm
Ethel a Nurse girl

Address Park Cottage Rickmansworth

Any witness names on the marriage cert???could you give me details?Looks quite good match this 1.Maybe worth checking the 1911 for them Sarah.

I will take 1 more look