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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Apr 2009 14:34

Shemp

Did you know there may have been another child Elizabeth?Here is the 1871 and her death

1871 England Census
about John Smith
Name: John Smith
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Withwell, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

1871 England Census
about Annie Smith
Name: Annie Smith
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Wath On Dearne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

1871 England Census
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Age: 6 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Wath On Dearne, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 95
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith 23
Annie Smith 19
Elizabeth Smith 6 months

John a Colliery Carter

Address Townend

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 10
District: Rotherham
County: Derbyshire, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 404 (click to see others on page)

Leaves me just the 1861 to find her!So cross fingers!












David

David Report 9 Apr 2009 09:40

Hi Michelle

Thanks for trying with Bridget McSorley.

Linking to that i'm having trouble finding her stepson my GG grandfather Thomas McSorley [1827-1871] on the 1851 census.

I've been told that his younger stepbrother Henry McSorley c:1838 was registered working as a servant on a 17 acre farm in Wrightington, Lancashire for a Joseph Oliverson [age 45] and his wife Elizabeth [age 49], but again I can't seem to find the record.

In 1861 he was living in Bolton at 9 Bens Court with his wife and kids, but for some reason all the family were listed as Marsh.

Hope you can help me out.

regards
dave

rubys

rubys Report 9 Apr 2009 06:35

hi michelle john smith and annie/annes are living at 49 townend wath upon dearn in 1881 census it says
john was born whitwell derbys
annie born 1852 wath upon dearne rotherham
children martha 1874 wath upon dearne
george 1876 wath upon dearne
john 1880 wath upon dearne
fred wath upon dearn
annie e wath
gertrude christened wath upon dearne 13th -10-1889
alice 1890 wath upon dearne .
i just need more information on annie born 1852wath her maiden name is kemp .i do have a book on 1851 census for wath upon dearne but they is no annie kemp.what ever you find i will be grateful and thank you

Kaz in a Tizz

Kaz in a Tizz Report 9 Apr 2009 00:59

Hi Michelle

Thank you so much for looking! yes, both parents were still alive in 1911 they died in the 1930's. I have looked in Cornwall for them but to no avail. I am wondering whether they emigrated and came back or are so badly mistranscribed it will be a small miracle if we find them.

Thanks again

Kaz :o)))

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 21:39

Kath

Here is the 1901 you requested

1901 England Census
about Henry Alfin
Name: Henry Alfin
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Uppingham, Rutland, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Martha Alfin
Name: Martha Alfin
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Sarah A Alfin
Name: Sarah A Alfin
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

1901 England Census
about Florence R Alfin
Name: Florence R Alfin
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 231
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 46
Martha Alfin 44
Sarah A Alfin 10
Florence R Alfin 7

Henry a Railway Passenger Guard

Address 28 Muriel Street

Hope that has helped and thanks for the clear info.

Michelle











Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Apr 2009 21:37

Hi Michelle, I have given up waiting for a reply from my contact re the last family I was following and which you so kindly helped me with, and have decided to move on.

Today I received a marriage certificate for OH's great grandparents. I have checked the 1881 to no effect so I am turning to you for census help once again.

If possible could you check the 1861/71 census for:

ELLEN LAVELL born c1857 in Liverpool as far as I know. Her father's name on the cert is Thomas Lavell a labourer. On the cert the address is 28 Rutter Street, Liverpool.

I have what I think is her birth Mar Q 1858 on freebmd in Liverpool.

Many thanks. ps. I am having some probs with my ISP and getting on the net is very hit and miss. Please forgive me if there is a delay in thanking you!!

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 21:35

Kath

Hi Kath,nice to hear from you.Here is the 1891 you requested

1891 England Census
about Henry Alfin
Name: Henry Alfin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Empingham, Rutland, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

1891 England Census
about Martha Alfin
Name: Martha Alfin
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Perichbeck, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

1891 England Census
about Sarah M Alfin
Name: Sarah M Alfin
Age: 5/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Walton On The Hill
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Alfin 36
Martha Alfin 34
Sarah M Alfin 5/12

Henry a Railway Guard and Assistant Inspector

Address 28 Muriel Street








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 21:29

Shemp

Hi Shemp do you have the district Annie was born in please?i should imagine the s on the Annes on the wedding record will be a transcript error and she is was either Annie or Anne on earlier records.As there are choices and not just 1 Annie-Anne Kemp i could really do with district of birth as well as County.
Do you have any of her children's names and places of birth?So i can look for her under Smith...quite a few John and Ann-Annie-Anne Smith couples on the records.

Thanks
Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 20:57

David

Bridget's death was registered in June and like you say the census was taken March 30th.I am a little unsure re death records but i know re birth records quite often these were registered a few weeks after birth sometimes a few months!I noticed 1 daughter in a workhouse and a son as a servant and that was the youngest son so i would say she was dead late March or dying and in a hospital for the poor and not all of these can be found on the census records.Remember this is still early days of registration which began in 1837 and although these days deaths are registered within 5 days things were very different then.Have you thought about sending for the death cert?

Also something to bear in mind some of the 1851 census records for some areas of Lancashire were water damaged.Wigan is not 1 but Bridget may have been visting that night in an area where records were damaged.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 20:04

Kaz

Been looking nothing so far....on the 1911 were both parents still alive?I will keep looking for you and come back to yours after i have done a couple of others.

Their is also the poss that they were on holiday,or they were 1901 strays...left off the census records?-although i have looked at a couple of sites on this option.

Michelle

rubys

rubys Report 8 Apr 2009 17:13

hi michelle please can you help me i have a annes kemp born 1859 yorkshire.
on one census she is living with her husband john smith b 1859 wirksworth derbyshire they were married march 1874 at wath upon dearne rotherham s yorks.she is know on census has annie when married.
i would like to know if you could possibly find annes parents please .
and thank you

David

David Report 8 Apr 2009 15:16

Hi Michelle

I've got a relation Bridget McSorley who on the 1841 was living at Jacksons Row, Wigan Lane, Wigan with her husband Hugh, 4 kids and 2 lodgers.

I have a record of her death between [AMJ] 1951, but cannot find her on the 1851 census. I know thw census was taken 31st March 1851 so she should be recorded somewhere. Her husband Hugh died in 1850 for the record and her son Thomas was my GG grandfather.

I'm trying to establish if she was born in England or Ireland, could you check your 1851 for me as you always seem to get better results.

thanks
dave

Kaz in a Tizz

Kaz in a Tizz Report 8 Apr 2009 03:02

Hi Michelle

This family are driving me bonkers!! Have looked for them with no success on the 1901 census so i wondered if you could help me please!.

Richard Currah b 1846 Cornwall
Mary Ann b 1854 Cornwall
John Richard 1877 cornwall
Jane 1882 perranzabuloe, Cornwall
William Paul 1888 Handsworth Staffs
Lydia 1892 Handsworth staffs
Bertha 1894 Handsworth Staffs

There are other children but had left home/ married by 1901
I have them on 1891 census and 1911 and are in Handsworth, Staffs. They were still in this area in the 1930's.

Many thanks in advance

Kaz :o))

If you find them I will buy drinks all round lol

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Apr 2009 00:30

Angela

Hi there!Haven't i looked for this 1 before?Could you give me her birthyear please.I will look tomorrow when next on...i am tired now.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Apr 2009 23:31

Angie

Tricky one!!I have been looking for them on the 1841 and i hate to say this but i think this maybe Lucy and her children in another house.She could be living there?visiting?and the bad news is i can't say for certain it's her because most of the census image gives initials for householders!!i hate these 1's!!!!Dates and initials look good though and i am uncertain as yet whether the Alston's are mistranscribed...need to look at this further

1841 England Census
about W Alston
Name: W Alston
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E Alston
Name: E Alston
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E Alston
Name: E Alston
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about L Alston
Name: L Alston
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about L France
Name: L France
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about E France
Name: E France
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

1841 England Census
about S France
Name: S France
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Blackburn
Hundred: Blackburn (Lower Division)
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Blackburn
Sub registration district: Blackburn
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
W Alston 30
E Alston 30
E Alston 5
L Alston 1
L France 28
E France 6
S France 2

W Alston...i guess is William?an Engineer
E Alston i guess is wife?
E Alston Could be Emily,Elizabeth Edward?
L Alston Lucy??
L France a Weaver and Lucy France i believe
E France..Edward France?
S France Susannah France?

I will see what else i can find and i agree with you re marriage of 1845.Looks a good poss.























David

David Report 7 Apr 2009 23:25

Thanks once again Michelle, you've moved my tree on leaps and bounds today.

I've got George Bowler on the 1881 as born at London, Essex, England and on the 1891 as born at London Bow.

Like you say i'll probably need to get his marriage cert to confirm which one it is.

Hope to be in touch soon
best regards
dave

Angela

Angela Report 7 Apr 2009 22:24

hi michelle once again i turn to you ,if possible could you give me some help or advice please. i am looking for a death certificate for mary morton she died about 1961 give or take two years.she was buried in liverpool but died in rainhill regards angela .

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Apr 2009 22:10

David

The 1861 sees them under Bowlen...transcript error

1861 England Census
about George Bowlen
Name: George Bowlen
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwhich, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Bromley
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowlen 41
Elizabeth Bowlen 40
Thomas Bowlen 17
William Bowlen 13
Uopalson Bowlen 11
Joseph Bowlen 9
Elizabeth Bowlen 7
Anna Bowlen 4
George Bowlen 2

Living in Poplar aged 2 i would imagine this would have felt like all he knew.Hence why he listed it as birthplace.

1881 England Census
about Elizabeth Bowler
Name: Elizabeth Bowler
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 158 Abbott Rd
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Bowler 59
Napoleon Bowler 29
Hannah Bowler 23
Walter Bowler 13

This sees the family without George in 1881 and Elizabeth as a Widow
Writing on the 1861 is very poor so i would guess this is Napoleon?

1861 England Census
about Uopalson Bowlen
Name: Uopalson Bowlen
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Bromley
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 55
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowlen 41
Elizabeth Bowlen 40
Thomas Bowlen 17
William Bowlen 13
Uopalson Bowlen 11
Joseph Bowlen 9
Elizabeth Bowlen 7
Anna Bowlen 4
George Bowlen 2

and Hannah would be Anna?

If you are not cert on this i would advise getting the marriage of George to be certain.
Make sure to check further up the page to see any other records i have for you.









angie2405

angie2405 Report 7 Apr 2009 22:00

Hi Michelle

I wonder if you can help me with one of my hubbie's relatives - this information [from the 1851 census] came from a distant cousin but I dont have any means of confirming it :

Joseph Richardson [c1813, Blackburn]
Lucy Richardson [c1812, Blackburn]
Edward Francis Richardson age 16
Susanna Francis Richardson 12
Maria Francis Richardson 8
Margaret Richardson 9mnths

I assumed that maybe Francis was Lucy's maiden name seeing as the 3 oldest children had it as a middle name. I couldn't find a marriage for a Joseph to Lucy Francis - but I did find a marriage for him to a Lucy France in 1845 [i don't know if Francis was correct or just mistranscribed !]- if that was right then either Lucy was previously married or she was unmarried when she had the children.

I found 2 births and a marriage on www.lanc-opc.org.uk for :
Edward France married Lucy Snape in 1834 at Blackburn
Edward France b1834, child of Edward France & Lucy
Susanna France b1838- child of Lucy France

|I know that there is also a son called Henry Richardson [son of Joseph & Lucy] who was born in 1854 and married Sophia Jane Field in 1784

Could you possibly check the census returns from 1841 for any information please :)

Kid regards

Angie

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Apr 2009 21:59

David

1871 Continued....

1871 England Census
about Ann Bowler
Name: Ann Bowler
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about George Bowler
Name: George Bowler
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Greenwich, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Thomas Bowler
Name: Thomas Bowler
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

1871 England Census
about Walter Bowler
Name: Walter Bowler
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromley, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Gabriel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Bowler 52
Elizabeth Bowler 50
Thomas Bowler 24
Joseph Bowler 19
Elizabeth Bowler 17
Ann Bowler 14
George Bowler 12
Thomas Bowler 9
Walter Bowler 3

Thomas a Engine Fitter
Thomas son a Boiler Maker
Joseph a Labourer in Ironworks

Address 4 Bowen Street

There was another poss...

1871 England Census
about George Bowler
Name: George Bowler
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England
Civil Parish: Hawnes
Town: North Wood End
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Ampthill
Sub registration district: Ampthill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household schedule number: 78
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Roberts 58
Jane Roberts 53
William Roberts 12
George Bowler 11

George,William and George Labourer's
Jane a Lace Maker

Address North Wood End

Either is poss although the 1st is in Poplar area.He may have considered this as his place of birth as all he would remember is this area?
Going to check the 1881 and 1861 for this family....