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1861 England Census
about Bridget Carrig
Name: Bridget Carrig
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

1861 England Census
about Margret Carrig
Name: Margret Carrig
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

Thomas a Dock Labourer
Bridget a Widow and a Charwoman

Can't quite make address out,sorry

The places of birth on the census image are dittoed after Thomas so could well be as the 1871.I would say children were born in Lancashire.

Can't see this family on the 1881 at mo....will look again it's poss that they were in Ireland visiting?

Cynthia

The 1861 poss for Ellen states place of birth as Ireland however 1871 states Liverpool

1861 England Census
about Thomas Lavell
Name: Thomas Lavell
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

1861 England Census
about Bridget Lavell
Name: Bridget Lavell
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

1861 England Census
about Serah Lavell
Name: Serah Lavell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

1861 England Census
about Ellen Lavell
Name: Ellen Lavell
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

1861 England Census
about Thomas Lavell
Name: Thomas Lavell
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 43
Bridget Lavell 40
Serah Lavell 7
Ellen Lavell 3
Thomas Lavell 5
Bridget Carrig 40
Margret Carrig 15

Continue....

Cynthia

I am not 100% on this 1 Cynthia but it is the only 1 i can find that matches your details.

1871 England Census
about Thomas Lavell
Name: Thomas Lavell
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

1871 England Census
about Bridget Lavell
Name: Bridget Lavell
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Thomas
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

1871 England Census
about Thomas Lavell
Name: Thomas Lavell
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

1871 England Census
about Sarah Lavell
Name: Sarah Lavell
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

1871 England Census
about Ellen Lavell
Name: Ellen Lavell
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

1871 England Census
about Catherine Lavell
Name: Catherine Lavell
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Bridget
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Lavell 59
Bridget Lavell 48
Thomas Lavell 15
Sarah Lavell 13
Ellen Lavell 13
Catherine Lavell 7

Thomas a Dock Labourer
Bridget a Housekeeper
Thomas a Carter

Address 39 Chapman Street

Hi Michelle,
Thanks for the kind offer.I'm looking for a James Thomson in any of the censuses-born 12-6-1802 in Pettinain,Lanarkshire.This is the only other thing I have -James Thomson and Jane Girdwood had a daughter Jane 5-9-1839 in Pettinain.
It's a longshot,I know.
Regards,
Joan

Shemp

Haven't forgotten you been doing family stuff today.Will look again in a bit.

Michelle

Hi Michelle

Thanks for the info on Sarah Horrobin/Jackson. Sorry for not replying sooner, I've been away for the a few days.

Thanks again Dawn

Hi Michelle, thank you for getting back to me.

The date of the marriage was 28th May 1882. The witnesses were William Lawson and Mary ?????? It looks like Vimto! However, I think it could be Vintro ....it's her mark and it's not well written unfortunately.

Thanks.

i michelle did you find annie kemp/smith in the 1860 census ?

Cynthia

Haven't forgotten you but i need to go out in a bit so i will do yours later.In the meantime could you give me the witness names on the marriage cert please and also date of marriage.

Thanks

Michelle

Del

Poss for Sarah A Miller again you need the marriage cert to be sure

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sarah Ann Miller
Name: Sarah Ann Miller
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Aston (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 366 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sarah Ann Miller
Name: Sarah Ann Miller
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Lutterworth
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sarah Ann Miller
Name: Sarah Ann Miller
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Atherstone
County: Leicestershire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 456 (click to see others on page)

Del

With regards to births of parents their are a few possibles and without their age at marriage we have no idea when they were born so would not be able to be sure we have the correct people Del.

Here are the choices and if i was having to guess would say the 2nd one but Genealogy and tree making should not be based on guess work so you will need to get the marriage cert to see ages at marriage and also father's names.This will then make it easier to find them on the census records and get correct birth records for them.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frank Whitehouse
Name: Frank Whitehouse
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 183 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frank Whitehouse
Name: Frank Whitehouse
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 145 (click to see others on page)

Let me know re Mary...because the marriage record did say Sarah?

Del

Are you certain the mother was called Mary?Found this marriage

Sarah A Miller 1910 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

Frank Whitehouse 1910 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Frank Whitehouse
Name: Frank Whitehouse
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 109 (click to see others on page)

Poss births for the couple

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about (Male) Whitehouse
Name: (Male) Whitehouse
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Miller
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 635 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frank Whitehouse
Name: Frank Whitehouse
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Miller
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 526 (click to see others on page

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Albert Whitehouse
Name: Albert Whitehouse
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1922
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 522 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Mary Whitehouse
Name: Mary Whitehouse
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1924
Registration district: Birmingham N
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 605 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Gertrude Whitehouse
Name: Gertrude Whitehouse
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1926
Registration district: Birmingham N
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 574 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Charles H Whitehouse
Name: Charles H Whitehouse
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1919
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 515 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Frank W Whitehouse
Name: Frank W Whitehouse
Mother's Maiden Surname: Miller
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1916
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration county: Warwickshire
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 523 (click to see others on page)

Deaths

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about (Male) Whitehouse
Name: (Male) Whitehouse
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 0
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 340 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Frank Whitehouse
Name: Frank Whitehouse
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 286 (click to see others on page)

How sad looks like 1st two children died.

Do you know any of these names?

Thanks Michelle.
Susan

Susan

Joseph may have died i will look for him on the 1851 but there are poss deaths for him

Joseph Evans 1850 Bristol Avon, Gloucestershire
View Record

Joseph Evans 1855 Bristol Avon, Gloucestershire

I will look for the others.

Thanks Michelle

sorry for the confusion, it was Thomas McSorley who was transcribed to Thomas Marsh in the 1861 census plus his family.

Could you look up another Thomas McSorley, the others son, born in Bolton in 1862. I have him in Wigan in 1881 living with his aunty married name Ellen Baxendon and his sister Mary Jane McSorley.

Could you check for him in the 1871 [could be in Bolton or Wigan] his dad Thomas died in Bolton in 1871, and in the 1891 and 1901.

In both cases i know he was living at 77 Warrington Road, Ince, Wigan.

He died on 20th Aug 1928 at 91 Warrington Road, Ince

thanks
Dave

hi michelle,i am trying to find out the birth of frank whitehouse, father of charles henry who was born 1919.in birmigham.I know his mother was called mary miller,i am trying to fnd her birth as well,as these would be important dates with in my tree.
pls could you help,
many thanks del.

Thank you for all of those, I will have to digest them later when I get home from work! Thank you for all your hard work, I am pleased I could tax you on some....

Tina

David

No sign of Thomas i couldn't see him yesterday.Have posted Henry and have seen Mary.Remember i mentioned water damage to some of the 1851 Lancashire census records?This is the list of them

2219 Lancashire Manchester
Ardwick
Birth in Rusholme
Burnage
Chorlton-dum-Hardy
Didsbury
Gorton
Levenshulme
Openshaw
Rusholme
Withington

2220 Lancashire Manchester
Ardwick
Chorlton-upon-Medlock
2221 Lancashire Manchester
Moss-side
Hulme
2222/1 Lancashire Eccles
Pendleton
2222/2 Lancashire Eccles
Pendlebury
2222/3 Lancashire Manchester
Broughton-with Kersall
2223 Lancashire Manchester
Salford
2224 Lancashire Manchester
Salfrod
2225 Lancashire Manchester
2226 Lancashire Manchester
2227 Lancashire Manchester
2228 Lancashire Manchester
2229 Lancashire Manchester
2230 Lancashire Manchester
2231 Lancashire Manchester
Bradford
Beswick
Newton with Culcheth & Kirkmanshulme
2232 Lancashire Manchester
Alt
Alt-Edge
Alt-Hill
Ashton-under-Lyne
Blackley
Cheetham
Crumpsall
Failsworth Great Heaton
Harpurhey
Knott Lanes with Lees
Knott Lanes & Wood Park
Little Heaton
Moston
Prestwich
Taunton

2233 Lancashire Ashton-under-Lyne
Ashton Town
2240 Lancashire Prestwich
Oldham (St Mary's, St Peter's, Wernet, and Westwood Wards)

It could be poss he was visiting on working in 1 of these areas?Or he maybe heavily mistranscribed?Couldn't see a marriage for Henry?are you certain he is under Marsh on the 1861?How do you know its your Henry?

David

Here is Henry

1851 England Census
about Joseph Oliverson
Name: Joseph Oliverson
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Scarisbrick, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Oliverson
Name: Elizabeth Oliverson
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Borseough, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

1851 England Census
about Henry McSorley
Name: Henry McSorley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wrightington
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Wigan
Sub registration district: Standish
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Oliverson 45
Elizabeth Oliverson 49
Henry McSorley 12

Joseph a Farmer of 17 Acres

Hi Michelle,
I am looking the Evans family in 1851 in particular the parents Joseph and Ann and their daughter Julia. In 1841 they were living in Bedminster. Joseph (1801) was a farmer, Ann (1806), William (1824), Ann (1826), Louisa (1829) Mary (1831), Sarah (1833), harriet (1835) and Julia (1837). All were born in Bedminster except Ann (mother) who was born in Barrow (Gurney) Somerset.
Louisa married William Lodge in 1846 and in 1851 was in Reading. Julia married Thomas Long in 1859 and her father was deceased then. in 1861 Ann a widow was living in Bristol with William her son?? aged 13. I have Ann and Julia in every census until their deaths.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Susan.