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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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June Report 20 Apr 2009 18:54

thank you nowander i did not find it .can you shead any light on this one please .got marrage certificate to day.frances emily simmonds wed to john castle 1892 reigate he was 25 she was 24.when i was looking at censers her birth was 1874 kingswood surry. she has a sister nellie eliza born 1882 Earlswood FATHER THOMAS MUM ELIZABETH. cant find her on censers befor 1901. in 1909 she wed amos balchin.I can find her at keepers cottage with amos.but not later. she then wed william skinner and lived in cosham and portsmouth but cant find her there ether. she cant only be on the 1901 censers.the family is so mixed up.would be greatfull if you can find her. june

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Apr 2009 18:45

Michael

Here is the marriage of Ellen J Hawinks showing she was Millard

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Thomas Hawkins 1894 Newent Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
View Record
Ellen Jane Millard 1894 Newent Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Hawkins
Name: Thomas Hawkins
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 437 (click to see others on page)

here is the 1891 for Sybil who was with Grandparents

1891 England Census
about John Millard
Name: John Millard
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Wickwar, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

1891 England Census
about Eliza Millard
Name: Eliza Millard
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

1891 England Census
about Ellen J Millard
Name: Ellen J Millard
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

1891 England Census
about Albert E Millard
Name: Albert E Millard
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

1891 England Census
about Frances A Millard
Name: Frances A Millard
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

Continue.....


















Maureen

Maureen Report 20 Apr 2009 14:09

Michelle,

re Witten

No.4 Cumberland Row, Islington East, looks like after James death they moved to York Place Islington, wonder what the relationship was between James and Harriet Martin for her to move with James' son William, she was his junior by 16 years so unlikely to be his daughter.

Any help much appreciated.
Maureen

angie2405

angie2405 Report 20 Apr 2009 11:29

Morning Michelle

Thank you very much for the 1891 details for Benjamin and Sophia.

I had a look on google for Nalmursley?Road/ - google came up with Walmersley road. If only the enumerators realised how bad their writing was - it would have made life sooooooooooooooo much easier - for us !

Is there any trace of them on the 1901 Census?

many thanks Angie

Fairydust

Fairydust Report 20 Apr 2009 10:47

Hi Michelle

Thanks for the census info which you have found out, you are a star ....

Karen :-)

Micheal

Micheal Report 19 Apr 2009 23:42

Hi Michelle
A friend told me abot you and how you help so many people. Well i really need your help as i have hit a really big wall. Iam looking for my grandfather Lawrence millard. I have his wedding cert, Lawrence millard 24yrs a glass blower married Elizabeth edginton butler 25th december1919. At whitwood mere parish church castleford. His father was george smith a miner and elizabeths father william herbert edginton acollery labourer. wittnesses alice atak and joseph butler. Lawrence lived at 15 smithson buildings and elizabeth lived at 6 smithson building. I know these things to be correct because they are all on the cert. Where i need your help is that i cant find him before that. I have found a laurence millard age 7yrs in the 1901 census. he was born in dymock newent gloucester and had an older sister syble millard 13 yrs. His mum was ellen j hawkins she was married to thomas hawkins and they had children all called hawkins so i can only presume that ellen had Lawrence and syble out of wed lock . I cant find another lawrence millard or syble millard in any of the other census. and i dont know if i have the right one. My lawrence is spelt with a W and the one in 1901 is spelt with a U. icant find him after thatand I cant find him in the bmd . Looking for his father george smith is like looking for a needle in a haystack. please Help. Idont know if this is any use but i have a Lydia millard in my tree but i dont have a connection to Lawrence yet. Lydia was married to benjamin butler another branch of my tree
Look forward to hearing from you.
Michael

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 23:42

Angie

1891 England Census
about Benj J A Dunn
Name: Benj J A Dunn
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sophia C
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benj J A Dunn 27
Sophia C Dunn 28
Annie E Dunn 5
Alfred A Dunn 7/12

1891 England Census
about Sophia C Dunn
Name: Sophia C Dunn
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benj J A
Gender: Female
Where born: Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benj J A Dunn 27
Sophia C Dunn 28
Annie E Dunn 5
Alfred A Dunn 7/12

1891 England Census
about Annie E Dunn
Name: Annie E Dunn
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Benj J A
Mother's Name: Sophia C
Gender: Female
Where born: Astley Bridge, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benj J A Dunn 27
Sophia C Dunn 28
Annie E Dunn 5
Alfred A Dunn 7/12

1891 England Census
about Alfred A Dunn
Name: Alfred A Dunn
Age: 7/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Benj J A
Mother's Name: Sophia C
Gender: Male
Where born: Bury, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Bury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bury
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bury
Sub registration district: North Bury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benj J A Dunn 27
Sophia C Dunn 28
Annie E Dunn 5
Alfred A Dunn 7/12

Benjamin a Shoe Maker

Address number is 45 and wrting is so bad can't really make road out??
Nalmursley?Road/











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 23:05

Karen

Looking at Elsie her maiden name is listed as Ould.

These are your possibles and 1 can be crossed off because she died.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elsie Ould
Name: Elsie Ould
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: St Columb
County: Cornwall
Volume: 5c
Page: 87 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elsie Dorothy Ould
Name: Elsie Dorothy Ould
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 469 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elsie Madeline Ould
Name: Elsie Madeline Ould
Year of Registration: 1879
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Ashton Under Lyne
County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 561 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elsie Marion Ould
Name: Elsie Marion Ould
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 1 (click to see others on page)

the 2nd Elsie D Ould died
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Elsie D Ould
Name: Elsie D Ould
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 18
District: Portsmouth (1900 Onw)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 336 (click to see others on page)

Elsie Madeline 1879 married in 1907

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Elsie Madeleine Ould
Name: Elsie Madeleine Ould
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Paddington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 63 (click to see others on page)

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Hugh Stirling Ashworth 1907 Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record
Lucy Alice Longstaffe 1907 Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record
Elsie Madeleine Ould 1907 Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record
Henry Edward Verey 1907 Paddington Greater London, London, Middlesex

Judging by this birth below i would say that Elsie Madeline married Hugh Ashworth.As the birth below has Verey and Longstaffe the other 2 names.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Michael J Verey
Name: Michael J Verey
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Longstaffe
District: Paddington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 136 (click to see others on page)

Interesting looks like Hugh Sterling Ashworth died in the war

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about Hugh Stirling Ashworth
Name: Hugh Stirling Ashworth
Death Date: 26 Mar 1917
Rank: Lieutenant Colonel
Regiment: Royal Sussex Regiment
Battalion: 4th Battalion (Territorial)
Type of Casualty: Killed in action

He was from Sussex and was born in 1879.

No marriages between Ashworth and Stafford or Collier.


Now to Elsie Marion Ould born 1880 in London...she died also


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Eliza Marion Ould
Name: Eliza Marion Ould
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 6 (click to see others on page)

This leaves Elsie Ould 1898 born in Cornwall...no marriage listed for her up to 1920's.

Well that leaves Elsie Ould and Elsie Madeline Ashworth???




















angie2405

angie2405 Report 19 Apr 2009 22:53

Hi Michelle

Hope you enjoyed your holiday :)

Thank you very much for bashing the brick wall I had with my France/Richardson lot !

Could you helpp me with one of my hubby's relatives :

Sophia Charlotte FIELD [born 1862, Blackburn]
married 1884 Bolton
Benjamin James Allan DUNN [b1863 Eccleshall Bierlow, Yorks]

Could you see if you could find them on 1891 & 1901 census please ?

many thanks

Angie

HelenBrissie

HelenBrissie Report 19 Apr 2009 22:35

Hi Michelle,

Well that 1901 info on McGown certainly is a mystery. I cannot find a death on ScotlandsPeople for father Daniel at all. Both mum and dad seem to have done a runner.

Many thanks once again for all your help.

bye for now Helen

Sophfox

Sophfox Report 19 Apr 2009 22:35

Hi Michelle, just to let you know that I will be away next week so if you are successful in solving my brickwall unfortunately I will be unable to respond.

thanks once again for you kind offer of help

Kind regards

Jill

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 21:55

Karen

Wow what a brick wall!!eeeeekkkk! Well here a are a few things that i am working through...some you do already have.Also i have a few questions for you.

The marriage of the poss sister of Alfred Stafford was

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Reginald Peter Collier 1906 Fylde Lancashire
View Record
Amy Beatrice Stafford 1906 Fylde Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Amy Beatrice Stafford
Name: Amy Beatrice Stafford
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Fylde
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 987 (click to see others on page)

based on Alfred's birthplace this looks like her birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Amy Beatrice Stafford
Name: Amy Beatrice Stafford
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Toxteth Park
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 231 (click to see others on page)

This looks like the family on the 1891

1891 England Census
about Amy B Stafford
Name: Amy B Stafford
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John S
Mother's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John S Stafford 39
Phoebe Stafford 36
William H Stafford 14
George F Stafford 12
Charles E Stafford 11
Amy B Stafford 10
Alfred L Stafford 8
Mabel H Stafford 1/12
John Stafford 68

and brother Alfred L

1891 England Census
about Alfred L Stafford
Name: Alfred L Stafford
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John S
Mother's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Burnley
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Burnley
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John S Stafford 39
Phoebe Stafford 36
William H Stafford 14
George F Stafford 12
Charles E Stafford 11
Amy B Stafford 10
Alfred L Stafford 8
Mabel H Stafford 1/12
John Stafford 68

1901 sees Amy still with parents but Alfred gone

1901 England Census
about Amy B Stafford
Name: Amy B Stafford
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John E
Mother's Name: Phoebe
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Buckhurst Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Buckhurst Hill
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Epping
Sub registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
John E Stafford 49
Phoebe Stafford 45
Amy B Stafford 20
Mabel H Stafford 10
Percy H Stafford 8
Minnie H Stafford 6
Ethel H Stafford 5

This could be Alfred on the 1901?

1901 England Census
about A L Stafford
Name: A L Stafford
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Holborn
Sub registration district: Goswell Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 458
Household Members: Name Age
William Brooks 52
Elizabeth Brooks 48
Margaret Brooks 16
Bertie Brooks 14
Edith Brooks 12
Albert Brooks 10
Winifred Brooks 8
William H Lewis 21
Henry Fraser 45
H Gardner 21
W Durham 30
A L Stafford 18
Richard J Truscott 31

Listed as a Pen Maker

Address 7 Upper Smith













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 20:32

Maureen

Please remind me of the county they lived in please?You mentioned Cumberland Row...where was this?

Thanks and then i will take a look.

Michelle

EYES

EYES Report 19 Apr 2009 16:44

Hi Michelle,if possible could you help me find the ancestors of Charles Henry Wilson born 1871,died 9th nov 1923,and his wife Ellen Memmott born 1872 died 25th oct 1955 i have some of thier children but cannot find thier parents, both born Sheffield South Yorkshire, any help greatly appreciated thank you best wishe Irene

Maureen

Maureen Report 19 Apr 2009 14:57

HI Michelle,
Re James and William Frederick Witten
Could do with some more help as am still stuck. If you remember you found William in the 1841 census lodging with Harriet Martin and the reason I am positive I have the right James (William's father) death is: name of informant H. Martin.
Information on death certificate is as follows:
When Died: 2nd October 1837
Name: James Witten
Age: 56 (this would put his birth at 1781)
Occupation: Carpenter
Cause: Consumption
Informant: H. Martin
Address: No.4 Cumberland Row
Hope you have better luck than me.
Maureen

CasCas

CasCas Report 19 Apr 2009 14:26

Thanks very much for mass of info Michelle!
I will order the birth cert as u say but am pretty sure this is the right one.
TTFN
Cas

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 13:28

Helen

Hi Helen not bad thanks...been away for a few days hols with family which was nice...back to work tomorrow...boo!!

1901 Scotland Census
about Christina McGown
Name: Christina McGown
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 112 Florence St
Occupation: Housewife
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_308
Household Members: Name Age
Christina McGown 36
Elizabeth McGown 13
Jeanie McGown 8
Peter McGown 6

1901 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth McGown
Name: Elizabeth McGown
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relationship: Step Daur (Step Daughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 112 Florence St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1901_308
Household Members: Name Age
Christina McGown 36
Elizabeth McGown 13
Jeanie McGown 8
Peter McGown 6

1901 Scotland Census
about Jeanie McGown
Name: Jeanie McGown
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relationship: Step Daur (Step Daughter)
Gender: Female
Where born: Lanarkshire, Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 112 Florence St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1901_308
Household Members: Name Age
Christina McGown 36
Elizabeth McGown 13
Jeanie McGown 8
Peter McGown 6

1901 Scotland Census
about Peter McGown
Name: Peter McGown
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relationship: Step Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Lanarkshire, Glasgow
Registration Number: 644/11
Registration district: Hutchesontown
Civil Parish: Glasgow Govan
Town: Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 112 Florence St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 23
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1901_308
Household Members: Name Age
Christina McGown 36
Elizabeth McGown 13
Jeanie McGown 8
Peter McGown 6

Same road...I wonder if Isabella died?and Daniel remarried?He maybe away on this census?













Janice

Janice Report 19 Apr 2009 13:11

Hi Michelle - thanks for your help - Jan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 12:54

Cas

1901 poss Continued....

1901 England Census
about Alfred Thornley
Name: Alfred Thornley
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Martha Thornley
Name: Martha Thornley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Thornley
Name: Elizabeth Thornley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

James a Labourer at Cotton Mill
Lily Cotton Mill Worker

Address 204 Cobden Street

I would advise you to get her birth or marriage cert to ensure this is the correct family.As i mentioned there were a couple showing around same birthyear and place.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Elizabeth Thornley
Name: Elizabeth Thornley
Year of Registration: 1899
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 224 (click to see others on page)










***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 19 Apr 2009 12:48

Cas

There are 2 showing around 1899 birthyear...they are both c1900 Manchester and 1 is Elizabeth Ann Thornley the other Elizabeth Thornley.As you did not mention the Ann i will post the 1 which is just Elizabeth Thornley

1901 England Census
about James Thornley
Name: James Thornley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Alice Thornley
Name: Alice Thornley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Lily Thornley
Name: Lily Thornley
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about William Thornley
Name: William Thornley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

1901 England Census
about Ivy Thornley
Name: Ivy Thornley
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Alice
Gender: Female
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Manchester
Ecclesiastical parish: Manchester St Phillip
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Household Members: Name Age
James Thornley 38
Alice Thornley 34
Lily Thornley 15
William Thornley 12
Ivy Thornley 10
Alfred Thornley 5
Martha Thornley 3
Elizabeth Thornley 1

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