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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Maurice

Maurice Report 26 Apr 2009 11:20

Hi Michelle. This is more like the Berlin Wall to me. i cant find my greatgrandparents on either the 1881 or 1901 census, his name was Samuel Joseph Williams born abt 1857 Leedstown Cornwall her name was Maria James born abt 1858 Breage Cornwall. Sam was a miner no occupation for Maria, the 1891 and 1911 census they are living in Millom Cumberland with children . Edith J born in 1881. sam and maria married in 1880 Bootle Cumberland vol 10 b page 904 (Millom?) i was sent the wrong marriage cert so have to send it back to find where they were actually living at the time. some of their other children from the1911 census are james abt1887 John 1889 mary1883 Edith J 1881 samuel1882. Thank You. Regards Maurice.

Sophfox

Sophfox Report 25 Apr 2009 17:28

Hi Michelle, have now got back from our hols and noticed you have started at new job at work, hope it all goes well for you.

Have you had any luck with my gt grandmother with her 2 surnames, McCannah or Goulston. I have searched under both surnames as well as her father's names with no luck.

With kind regards

Jill

Micheal

Micheal Report 24 Apr 2009 10:46

Hi Michelle
Thanks for info on how to get Lawrences birth cert will send for it today let you know who's down as his dad
Thanks again Michael

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 23 Apr 2009 23:33

Maureen and Val

I started a new job at work this week which is more hours and harder!Sorry i haven't had a chance to look yet i will take a look tomorrow for you....roll on weekend!!

Michelle

Valerie

Valerie Report 23 Apr 2009 19:22

hi michelle,
with ref to 1871 census for de vetter / mccann , wolfe st liverpool
eugene was 25 mary was 22 and their dad's were
jean baptist de vetter and thomas mccann.
i have all info for later censuses, i just want to find an address
for one or both of them before they married in 1872.
thanx for any help you can give


val

Maureen

Maureen Report 23 Apr 2009 15:47

Hi Michelle,
Re Witten Family
Don't want to hastle you but just wondered if you'd had time to take a look.

David

David Report 23 Apr 2009 13:40

hi Michelle

Can you check out for Thomas McSorley, my great gandfather, on the 1871 census. He was born on 14th June 1862 in Bolton and died on 20th August 1901 in Wigan.

On the 1881 record he's living with his aunt [married name Baxendon] and his siter in Wigan, the name is spelt McSirley.

Regarding the 1871 record he may be in Bolton or Wigan. His father died in 1871 and his mother was already dead so he may have moved to Wigan where most of his relations were living.

His siblings were, Hugh c:1853, Joseph c: 1849 - 1902, Mary c: 1859 - 1925, and James c: 1867.

His Aunts and Uncles were Ellen c:1833 [married Baxendale/Baxendon], Henry c:1838, Mary c:1833 [recorded living in workhouse after her parents died]

sorry it's so long winded

thanks dave

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 22 Apr 2009 23:08

Michael

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Laurence Millard
Name: Laurence Millard
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 250 (click to see others on page)

You contact http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

With this site you can order online and pay online.Last time i ordered 1 it was £7 you will have to check if price now is the same.Should take about 10 days to come.You use the Volume Number and Page Number from the record above and any other details they ask from it.

Hope that has helped?

June

June Report 22 Apr 2009 22:45

Hi michelle its me again been looking most of the day found emma on the 1881 cecsus. it must be her its the some mum and dad to her sister edith ellen.she is listed as living next door to the balchins. realy ethringtons but took mums name of balchin?? in the 1901 census she is living with amos ethrington balchin she wed him in 1909.after her husband john castle died . on that sencers her birth is 1874 kingswood. in 1927 she wed william skinner in portsmouth . she was my dads mum. been looking for when she died it was about 1950 to 55. Hampshire my be fareham.cant find her she should be in the name of skinner .tried castle and balchin.never mind i give up on her now thanks for your help .emma aned ethith must be real sisters.wasent shore when i couldent find her.thank again for your time ,june

Micheal

Micheal Report 22 Apr 2009 20:27

Hi Michelle
Thanks for all the info on lawrence millard so far. Iam going to get his birth cert can you tell me how i go about doing this please. I really appreciate all your hard work and look forward to hearing from you .
Thankyou Michael

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 22 Apr 2009 11:31

Thanks Michelle for the info on Thomas Harwood.You are a star.
Regards
Kathleen

Valerie

Valerie Report 21 Apr 2009 22:03

hi michellle
their father's are jean baptist devetter and thomas mccann

thanx val

Valerie

Valerie Report 21 Apr 2009 21:55

hi michelle
they are eugene devetter age 25 and mary mccann age 22
married at st patrick's park place liverpool 8

thanx val

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Apr 2009 21:50

Valerie

Could you give me ages at marriage and father's names please for the couple.There are a few Mary Mccann's listed.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 21 Apr 2009 19:26

June

If Edith Ellen was born in 1882 she would not have been on the 1881 census.Frances is not on the 1891 census Edith is listed on so they would not appear together.I have looked at the 1881 and there is a daughter Emma listed born 1868 in Banstead Surrey.This looked like a poss for her birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frances Emma Simmonds
Name: Frances Emma Simmonds
Year of Registration: 1867
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Epsom
County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 5 (click to see others on page)

Epsom would have been the reg area for Banstead.

So it is poss that Frances is listed as Emma on the 1881?

1881 England Census
about Emma Simmonds
Name: Emma Simmonds
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Banstead, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Reigate Foreign
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: Roundabout
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Reigate
Sub registration district: Reigate
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Simmonds 48
Elizabeth Simmonds 37
George Simmonds 18
Emma Simmonds 13
Thomas Simmonds 10
John Simmonds 8
Alfred Simmonds 1


June

June Report 21 Apr 2009 16:52

Hi witnesses were E simmonds and M castle.faters name henry castle and thomas simmonds. the E COULD BE elizabeth her mother . just found out nellies real name is edith ellen.On the 1891 census .edith was 8.she was born 1892. she was known as nellie.still cant find the sisters on any ather sencus together.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Apr 2009 21:21

June

Can you give me details from the marriage cert please?witness names and also ocupation of father Thomas.How do you know mother was called Elizabeth?

Michelle

Valerie

Valerie Report 20 Apr 2009 19:52

hi michelle,
please could you help with the 1871 census for wolfe st toxteth park
i recently received my g-grandparents marriage cert and it only as the street were they lived no number's, they did'nt marry till 1872 and was wondering if they lived at seperate home's or under the same roof.
they are eugene/james devetter and mary mccann

i would appreciate your help
thanx val

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Apr 2009 19:05

Michael

Birth record of Sybil

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Sybil Mary Millard
Name: Sybil Mary Millard
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 277 (click to see others on page)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Laurence Millard
Name: Laurence Millard
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Newent
County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 250 (click to see others on page)

I wouldn't take too much notice of the spelling of his name.It maybe poss that he decided himself when he got older to change the u to a w?

Might be worth getting this birth cert to see who his father was...this would be a way to cross him either off the list or confirm you have the right person...well worth the cost of the cert!

I will continue looking.



***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 20 Apr 2009 18:57

Michael

1891 Continued for Sybil and mother Ellen and Grandparents

1891 England Census
about Sybil M Millard
Name: Sybil M Millard
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Millard 67
Eliza Millard 60
Ellen J Millard 30
Albert E Millard 24
Frances A Millard 13
Sybil M Millard 3

John a Postmaster
Eliza a Postmaster Assistant
Ellen J Postoffice Worker single
Albert a Postman and single

Address The Village Postoffice

and look who was living next door...

1891 England Census
about Thomas Hawkins
Name: Thomas Hawkins
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Dymock
Ecclesiastical parish: Dymock
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Newent
Sub registration district: Redmarley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hawkins 57

Thomas a Baker and single


So we have both people single. Ellen must have had Sybil and Lawrence out of wedlock...question is was Thomas the father??or was it George Smith?

Will look more into this.