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Thank you Michelle I appreciate the time and effort you are putting in together with all your other work load. You are very kind to spend time helping people.

Kind regards

Jill

Jill

Did look before and had no luck and did mean to return back to yours...and then had lots of new requests come through and forgot...so sorry!

Will look again i feel this 1 is tricky cos there is only 1 census to work off the 1871 and the surname is uncertain which makes it even harder.I will need time to look and will prob have to come back to this when next on cos its late and i am up early out to work and school runs 1st thing.

Michelle

Kats

Can't see the 1871 at moment???I will try again but must move on as i have got behind starting my new job the other week and i have a few i need to go back onto.

Michelle

Hi Michelle, I just hate to ask again because I know that you have been so busy with a new job and family etc but I was wondering how you got on with my query re my gt grandmother Elizabeth McCannah who decided to change her surname to Goulton when she registered some of her children's births.

I expect that it is proving very difficult, so hopefully you have had some luck.
Once again sorry to bother you again.

With kind regards

Jill

Kats

Frederick was born in 1864

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Frederick William Davis
Name: Frederick William Davis
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 536 (click to see others on page)

Only poss death i can see is in 1864 for George under Frederick George Davis and is the only 1 for Clerkenwell area

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Frederick George Davis
Name: Frederick George Davis
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Clerkenwell
County: Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 425 (click to see others on page)

The birth was registered in December.Death in Q3 for the poss for George i found.

I am trying to see if to look for Sarah with George or not.I think he was dead.Will continue searching the 1871.

Kats

Looks like Sarah married in 1872

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
William Baird 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record

Sarah Davis 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Davis
Name: Sarah Davis
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: London City
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 148 (click to see others on page)

So in theory should be under Davis so will have a look.

Michelle, sorry getting all the branches of my tree mixed up
Father was George Davis b c 1808
Mother Sarah Davis c c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn

Kats

Can i check with you re the surname?Frederick you list as Davis and both parents as Wade.Was Davis the mother's maiden name?

Thanks
Michelle

Kath

Thanks for your kind words.I wish i was Superwoman!!Sorry i had forgotten the 1851-61 for Mary...here is it

1851 England Census
about Levi Norbury
Name: Levi Norbury
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Nortwry, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Levi Norbury 35
Mary Norbury 34

1851 England Census
about Mary Norbury
Name: Mary Norbury
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Levi
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Levi Norbury 35
Mary Norbury 34

Levi looks like Tile Maker..looks like Managing before tile maker?

Address Dale House Fold

1861 Census

1861 England Census
about Lin Norbury
Name: Lin Norbury
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

1861 England Census
about Mary Norbury
Name: Mary Norbury
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Lin
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

1861 England Census
about Ann Bramall
Name: Ann Bramall
Age: 82
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1779
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Hallifax, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Lin Norbury 45
Mary Norbury 43
Ann Bramall 82

Levi is not Lin name mistranscribed
Levi was a Farmer of 4 acres
Ann a Propriotor of Houses

Address Dale Farm House in same area as the Dale House Fold mentioned on the 1851.

Hi Michelle
I wonder if you could help track my Great Grandfather. His name is Antonio Borgna lived and married in Lambeth, London in 1896 -bride Ruth Loades. Sadly she died bearing her second child Frank. I know that my grandmother Teresa moved to live with her grandparents in 1899 to Great Yarmouth.
We understand that Antonio left the UK in 1908 to go to USA and we find a record of him in Ohio ( I think) in 1920. He was born in Italy in 1874, but would like to know where he came from, when he arrived, and when he left to go to America.

Can you help?

Thanks Michelle for the 1851/1861 census details for Josepth Turnock's family. Did you have any luck with the other Turnock?
Mary Turnock c1817 Poynton, married to Levi Norbury c1816 Liverpool also on the 1851/1861 census.
I know you are busy with the new job and your family, I don't know where you find the time to answer all your mail and do the look ups. I suspect you are really Wonder Woman pretending to be Michelle!!
I will have patience.
Regards
Kathleen

Hi Michelle
Can you please have a look on the 1871 census for:
Frederick William Davis b 1864 Clerkenwell, London
Father George Wade b c1808 St Luke, London occupation Pewterer Journeyman (he might be dead)
Mother Sarah Wade b c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn (she remarried and may be under Sarah Baird)
Sister Emma b 1861 Clerkenwell
other siblings
Richard 1845
Susan 1847
Robert 1849
Sarah 1853
All born Clerkenwell

Thanks very much

HI MICHELLE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL INFO GIVEN YOU ARE BRILLIANT,I WILL ORDER A BIRTH CERT FOR CHARLES AND ELLEN TO FIND FATHERS NAMES AND VERY LIKELY BE ASKING YOU FOR MORE HELP THANK YOU SO MUCH AND BEST WISHES IRENE

Hi Michelle. I am truly amazed i would never have found Samuel and Maria Williams in 1881 in a million years. Thank you very much it is appreciated. Thanks Maurice.

Val

When i last looked a few days ago no i could not see them.I have not been on alot the past few days cos of work and its my son's birthday today..May 1st.

I will take a look again as i had a huge amount on my mind when i last looked starting my new job which is a demanding job and my mind is clearer now and back to normal!!i will take a look this eve...later today.

Sorry i have not been very reliable i am normally!

Michelle

hi michelle,
sorry to keep bothering you as i no your busy
but did you manage to find 1871 census for
wolfe st toxteth park liverpool, for either
mary mccann 22 or eugene devetter 25,
thanx
val

Maurice

1871 Census

1871 England Census
about Joseph Turnock
Name: Joseph Turnock
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 69
Mary Turnock 67

1871 England Census
about Mary Turnock
Name: Mary Turnock
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 69
Mary Turnock 67

Joseph a Colliey Labourer

Address same as 1861...well looks the same

Dale House Fold?looks like a F but is def Dale House ...F?old

Kath

Here is the 1861

1861 England Census
about Joseph Turnock
Name: Joseph Turnock
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Poynton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 58
Mary Turnock 57
Joseph Turnock 23

1861 England Census
about Mary Turnock
Name: Mary Turnock
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Poynton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 58
Mary Turnock 57
Joseph Turnock 23

1861 England Census
about Joseph Turnock
Name: Joseph Turnock
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Poynton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 58
Mary Turnock 57
Joseph Turnock 23

Joseph a Colliery Labourer
Joseph a Blacksmith

Writing not good so can't read the address sorry.

Kath

here is the 1851 for Joseph and Mary

1851 England Census
about Joseph Turnock
Name: Joseph Turnock
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Poynton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 50
Mary Turnock 48
George Turnock 17
Sarah Turnock 10

1851 England Census
about Mary Turnock
Name: Mary Turnock
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Poynton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 50
Mary Turnock 48
George Turnock 17
Sarah Turnock 10

1851 England Census
about George Turnock
Name: George Turnock
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Poynton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 50
Mary Turnock 48
George Turnock 17
Sarah Turnock 10

1851 England Census
about Sarah Turnock
Name: Sarah Turnock
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Poynton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Worth
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Macclesfield
Sub-registration district: Prestbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Turnock 50
Mary Turnock 48
George Turnock 17
Sarah Turnock 10

Joseph a Colliery Banksman
George a Machine Maker

Address listed as Hockley

Maurice

here is the well hidden 1881!!Under William Samuel...

1881 England Census
about William Samuel
Name: William Samuel
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Crowan, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Millom
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: 73 Albert Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Iron Miner

Registration district: Bootle
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Samuel 22
Maria Samuel 22

1881 England Census
about Maria Samuel
Name: Maria Samuel
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Breage, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Millom
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: 73 Albert Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bootle
Sub-registration district: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 5b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Samuel 22
Maria Samuel 22

His name on the image had been written as William Samuel..and her's as Mario then there was ditto marks on the Samuel.Amazing isn't it how well hidden people can be!Well you have both census records now.

Michelle