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Kath

Wonder if this is the marriage??Bad news the surname Smith is involved!!

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
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John Horwood 1880 Holbeach Lincolnshire
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Henry Naylor 1880 Holbeach Lincolnshire
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Eliza Annie Russell 1880 Holbeach Lincolnshire
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Charlotte Smith 1880 Holbeach Lincolnshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Holbeach
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 613 (click to see others on page)

Maybe mistranscribed again??Surname Horwood...o can quite often look like an a.

Oooh maybe bingo!!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Boston
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 365 (click to see others on page)

Poss 1861 for Charlotte??there are a few Charlotte Smiths though...this looks most likely

1861 England Census
about George Smith
Name: George Smith
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Ewerby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 33
Susannah Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 3
Tom Smith 17

1861 England Census
about Susannah Smith
Name: Susannah Smith
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Swineshead, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 33
Susannah Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 3
Tom Smith 17

1861 England Census
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutterton, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 33
Susannah Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 3
Tom Smith 17

1861 England Census
about Tom Smith
Name: Tom Smith
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Sutterton, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Boston
Town: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Boston
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 258
Household Members: Name Age
George Smith 33
Susannah Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 3
Tom Smith 17

George a Railway Labourer

Can't quite make address out.

Kath

Hi Kath!Well having a look at the BMD and found this poss and will check the census records to see if this girl does exsist
I wondered if Harwood was mistranscribed as Horwood?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Charlotte Horwood
Name: Charlotte Horwood
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Holbeach
County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 379 (click to see others on page)

Good news is she doesn't exsist as Charlotte Horwood...so looks like a good poss!

Hi Michelle,
I have a brick wall!
I wonder if you would please look for a family for me.
i have limited info fo them and can find no trace before the birth of their son apart from a possible marriage.
Also have never found them on any census.
I should have been able to find them altogether on the 1841 but no luck
Any thing you can find would be very much appreciated
I know i can order certs,but would really like to have them on at least one census first
Thanks for your time
Blue

Richard Plackett c1810
Susannah c1810
I have no idea where they came from but found a marriage on IGI that is a possible
marriage
Richard Plackett -Susannah Barry
28 APR 1829 Saint James, Westminster, London, England

Sons birth
RICHARD THOMAS PLACKETT Pedigree
Male

Event(s):
Birth:
04 NOV 1830
Christening:
24 NOV 1830 Saint James, Westminster, London, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: RICHARD PLACKETT Family
Mother: SUSANNAH

the son Richard married an Alice Hurcom in Dec 1863 reg Lambeth

Hi again Michelle
Thank you for the info on Joseph Turnock and Levi Norbury. That completes another branch of the growing tree!!
I have another request on the Harwood family. I have John Harwood dob c 1857, Sutton, Lincolnshire, he appears on the 1881 census as living in Bridge Road, Sutton St. Mary, Lincolnshire, with his wife Charlotte (born Boston, Lincolnshire) and daughter Charlotte aged 7 months.born Long Sutton, Lincolnshire) I can't find him on the marriage index, or on the death index either. His daughter doesn't appear in the free birth index either, a mystery !! Can you find this family on another census, or perhaps they emigrated?
As always any help you can give is very welcome.
Regards
Kathleen

Hi MIchelle

thanks for the info on George Bowler. Your right I now need to get the marriage cert to take this any further.

The only query I can see is the use of the middle name Edward has this has not appeared on any other info i've got so far about George.

So hopefully the marriage cert will help clear this up.

Thanks again and I'll let you know when i've received the cert.

Dave

Hope you are still able to help with look ups..l have failed to find birth cert for Ricrad Astley born abt 1853 in Aberhafesp, Montgomeryshire . he was son of Richard Astley and Mary Andrew.
Any ideas on who, where and how l can track crew records down for merchant navy?
Pat

David

This is the only marriage i can see for the area you mentioned?Although i am uncertain this is the right 1.

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
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George Edward Bowler 1882 Barrow in Furness (1876 Onw) Cumbria, Lancashire
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Emily Emilia Heley 1882 Barrow in Furness (1876 Onw) Cumbria, Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about George Edward Bowler
Name: George Edward Bowler
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Barrow in Furness (1876 Onw)
County: Cumbria, Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 1272 (click to see others on page)

Looking at the 1891 Emily was born c1865 in Buckinghamshire in Newport Pagnall so it could be the marriage above...Found this birth record

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Emilia Heley
Name: Emilia Heley
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newport Pagnell
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 484 (click to see others on page)


Like i say not 100% on this 1.I would advise to get cert and then we can work together on this to make certain it's the correct 1.I can use the info on the cert to trace through the census records.Also we can see what occupation George is listed as.Worth the risk for £7 i feel but that's up to you?

Michelle

Hi Michelle

can you help me trace a marriage certificate for George Bowler who was born around 1858.

he married a Emily ? between 1881 and 1884.

He was living in Barrow in Furness in the 1881 census as a lodger, and in the 1891 census he was married living in wigan with a daughter aged 8 named Ada who was born in Barrow.

So i'm assuming he gat married in Barrow but can't seem to track him down.

I'm looking for this info to find out his father's name plus Emily's surname.

Hope you can help me.

thanks Dave

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George

Doesn't look as though they had any children George...will keep checking for the 1861 for you...found a poss christening for James

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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JAMES HARDY Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 11 OCT 1829 Bridlington, Yorkshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Mother: ANN HARDY Family


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Maybe Colley was his father's name?often used for middle name.

Esther was a Servant on the 1851 still in Ely

1851 England Census
about Esther Shearman
Name: Esther Shearman
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: Ely St Mary
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Ely
Sub-registration district: Haddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Susan Wilks 66
Cathrine Wilks 27
Arthur Clements 63
Mary Story 75
Eliza More 22
Esther Shearman 13

George

Esther's death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Esther Hardy
Name: Esther Hardy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 60
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 276 (click to see others on page)

James's death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about James Hardy
Name: James Hardy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 65
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 309 (click to see others on page)

George

Here is the marriage you mentioned

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
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James Colley Hardy 1860 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding
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Esther Shearman 1860 Leeds (1837-1929) Yorkshire - West Riding

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about James Colley Hardy
Name: James Colley Hardy
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 384 (click to see others on page)

The 1st census i can see for the couple at mo is the 1871...looks like they are mistranscribed all missing form the 1861

1871 England Census
about James Hardy
Name: James Hardy
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Burlington Quay, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
James Hardy 41
Esther Hardy 33

1871 England Census
about Esther Hardy
Name: Esther Hardy
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely, Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
James Hardy 41
Esther Hardy 33

James a Boat Man

Address 12 Feelham's Fold and Railway Street


You had the 1881 so i will move onto the 1891

1891 England Census
about James Hardy
Name: James Hardy
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Budlington, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hardy 61
Esther Hardy 56
Esther Colley 9

1891 England Census
about Esther Hardy
Name: Esther Hardy
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Ely

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hardy 61
Esther Hardy 56
Esther Colley 9

1891 England Census
about Esther Colley
Name: Esther Colley
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub-registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Hardy 61
Esther Hardy 56
Esther Colley 9

James a Shop Keeper

Address 5 Low Fold

Hi Michelle

Thank you very much for helping with my Denham family - thats another piece of the 'puzzle' sorted. :)

many many thanks

Angie

Angie

Margaret Barron looks like the same lady as Margaret Denham to me and i have seen this a few times before wives marrying there dead husbands brother's...who knows whether for love or more than likely for financial support.

1881 England Census
about Margaret Barron
Name: Margaret Barron
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Step Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Newfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Byers Green
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Newfield Queens Head
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Dobson 51
Elizabeth Dobson 47
Mary H. Barron 20
William Barron 14
Hannah Dobson 14
Amos C. Barron 10
Anne Dobson 10
John Dobson 12
Ada Dobson 8
Margaret Barron 7

I suspect John used his middle name-mother's surname so as to not cause any problems.

Hope that has helped.

Angie

Looks like Hannah died

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Hannah Denham
Name: Hannah Denham
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 7
District: Auckland
County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 102 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1901 for John and Margaret and remaining children

1901 England Census
about John Denham
Name: John Denham
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Towlow, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green St Peter
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 36
Margaret Denham 28
Mary Jane Denham 13
Elizabeth Denham 1

1901 England Census
about Margaret Denham
Name: Margaret Denham
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Newfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green St Peter
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 36
Margaret Denham 28
Mary Jane Denham 13
Elizabeth Denham 1

1901 England Census
about Mary Jane Denham
Name: Mary Jane Denham
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: British Subject, United States

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green St Peter
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 36
Margaret Denham 28
Mary Jane Denham 13
Elizabeth Denham 1

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Denham
Name: Elizabeth Denham
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Newfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green St Peter
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 111
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 36
Margaret Denham 28
Mary Jane Denham 13
Elizabeth Denham 1

John a Coal Miner

Address 5 Bridge Street.

Angie

1891

1891 England Census
about John Denham
Name: John Denham
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Towlow, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 26
Sarah Denham 21
Mary Jane Denham 3
Hanah Denham 1

1891 England Census
about Sarah Denham
Name: Sarah Denham
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 26
Sarah Denham 21
Mary Jane Denham 3
Hanah Denham 1

1891 England Census
about Mary Jane Denham
Name: Mary Jane Denham
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Pennsylvania, United States

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 26
Sarah Denham 21
Mary Jane Denham 3
Hanah Denham 1

1891 England Census
about Hanah Denham
Name: Hanah Denham
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Newfield, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Newfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Newfield
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub-registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 42
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Denham 26
Sarah Denham 21
Mary Jane Denham 3
Hanah Denham 1

John a Coal Miner

Address 5 Bridge Row

Hi Michelle

I have a John Roddam Denham b1865 [in Durham] who married a Sarah Jane Watkinson in 1887 in Durham. [Roddam is his mothers maiden name - she wasnt married when she had him]

They had - as far as I know, 2 children - Mary Jane Denham b1888 and Hannah Denham born in 1890

Sarah died in 1893

John's brother - William Denham b1869 married Margaret Barron in 1894 - William subsequently died in 1895 !

There is a marriage for a Margaret Denham to John Roddam in 1897.

I did wonder if Margaret Denham was the wife of the late William Denham who then married his brother John used his birth surname

The 'Deceased Brother’s Widow Marriage Act ' that permitted a woman to marry her deceased husband’s brother wasn't passed by parliament until 1921

Could you have a look at the 1891 [for John Denham and his wife Sarah] and 1901 for John Roddam and Margaret and JOhn Roddam Denham and his children.

kind regards

Angie

Hi Michelle, thank you very much for all your time and effort. I wish I knew whether he was Irish or not. I know several of Elizabeth's children were born in Ireland but I believe that is only because James was in the army and posted there.

As with most families, stories are told which are proved unfounded and one told to me was that an ancester was a shoemaker to the young Queen Victoria in Scotland. With all the other tales that I have disovered so far in my family have proved untrue, I dismissed William, as a shoemaker, as being one of those.

Sadly I do not have any-one in my family to ask but I will contact the Southampton Record Office as you suggested and see what happens.

Thank you once again for all your time and effort.

With kind regards

Jill

Jill

I wish i had good news for you...i have been looking for hours and i can't see them.I'm wondering if her father William was Irish and lived in Ireland?Maybe she was born in Hampshire as listed on the 1891 but i can't see her birth registered?It was not compulsory to register births till 1875 though.

If William was Irish it is possible that we do not view Elizabeth on the 1871 and they may have been visiting Ireland?Do you know if he was Irish?The surname could have been mistranscribed and as there is confusion of the 2 surnames,it makes this tricky.I do find most mistranscripts though and like i say i have been looking all eve.There are William's with similar surnames on the census records who are Shoemaker's but the birthyears for 1 in particular i found was way out and also looked back on him and no ELizabeth??

Sorry i haven't helped much.My advise now would be to contact Southampton records office with the info you have...copies of certs and all details and see if they maybe able to find something in the records.
Another thing to try is to post a lookup request on the Records Office Board for this family...alot of eyes may well see something i haven't.
Best of luck and keep me informed.

Michelle

Michelle, thanks for the info, know how busy you are. Look forward to hopefully finding out something later.

Kats