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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 18:19

Alan

Poss Christening Record for Sarah

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
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SARAH JANE Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 MAY 1855 Southwick, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM SLOPER Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


Alan

Alan Report 24 Nov 2008 18:18

Hi Michelle
With new info from your good self
Marriage of Willaim Sloper & Sarah Thorn on igi 25/12/1839

Thanks again
Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 18:09

Alan

Yep i have the right family on the 1871!!!As address is Marwell on there and also looks like a farm as alot of Ag Lab living there and around.


***Michelle***

Margaret

Margaret Report 24 Nov 2008 18:06

Hi Michelle sorry your not well.
Going to send for Ellen Smiths death certificate for Tamworth 1917 as age matches .wondered if you have any record look up for Arley around 1923 to see if any Smiths there or for Polesworth .I know its a lot to ask but got a feeling other realatives are there .Also anything on Mary and Herbert Flowers .
Thanks Mags

Alan

Alan Report 24 Nov 2008 17:59

Michelle

Sarah Jane was 18 spinster
address marwell (something) farm
James was 23 batchelor, labourer
address difficult to make out
james father was john (deceased)

Alan

Alan

Alan Report 24 Nov 2008 17:53

Michelle!!!!!!
What a Diamond you are.
Yes this is them.
Had the 1881 stuff
But not the 1871
1861 i will ask another time

Hope you feel better

Thankyou
Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 17:45

Alan

here is the poss 1871 i have found in same area as marriage was and since the marriage was 3 months or so after this could well be a poss.Only 1 i could see that fits really.Sarah v.young but they did marry v.young in those days and not uncommon at 16.

1871 England Census
about William Sloper
Name: William Sloper
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Colanbome, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Sarah Sloper
Name: Sarah Sloper
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Wickham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Sarah J Sloper
Name: Sarah J Sloper
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Hayle
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Alois Falor
Name: Alois Falor
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Niece
Where born: Burant
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

William occupation was just dittoed as Ag Lab and a Carter does work on a farm?

Address looks like Marwell?not v.clear.


Ok so only possible at the moment.On the marriage cert what was Sophia's address at marriage?and what was her age listed as?Also James please can i have info of him from the marriage cert so i can look at other possibles after marriage.

***Michelle***













***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 17:36

Alan

Been hard at work on yours and with flu so there is dedication for you!!I will show you what i have found and see what you think and also ask you whether you know if this is Sarah and James on the 1881?Think the age for Sarah is out slightly and should be around 1855 i think she was younger than him when they married and she may have said she was older.Interesting is the 1st child is born in Winchester-area where marriage of 1871 was.

1881 England Census
about James Knight
Name: James Knight
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Sarah Knight
Name: Sarah Knight
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about John J. Knight
Name: John J. Knight
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Edward C. Knight
Name: Edward C. Knight
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hambledon, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Frank A. Knight
Name: Frank A. Knight
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about John Hall
Name: John Hall
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Petersfield, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

On next thread will show you the 1871 of which i wonder is this Sarah before marriage?

















Alan

Alan Report 24 Nov 2008 16:30

Hi Michelle

Marriage cert date of marriage 1/7/1871
age of Sarah 18
Father occ Carter
ps Sarah Jane also used the 1st name Sophia
why i do not know yet

Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 16:27

Alan

Was info re father from a marriage cert?If so what was his occupation and when and where was the marriage.Also how accurate is birthyear of Sarah?

***Michelle***

Alan

Alan Report 24 Nov 2008 16:13

Michelle

1861 please

William Sloper (father) age ?
Daughter
Sarah Jane Sloper b 1852/3
Wiltshire / hampshire

not much i know

thanks
Alan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 16:00

Wendy

I would say he married Annie Parkes

1891 England Census
about Annie Parker
Name: Annie Parker
[Annie Parkes]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Calverton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wolverton St Mary
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Whichcote 73
Louisa D Whichcote 57
Louisa M Whichcote 22
George Whichcote 20
Fanny Mannings 57
Ellen Eglington 42
Annie Parker 21
Henrietta Read 22
Emily Hegace 19


dodsy

dodsy Report 24 Nov 2008 15:59

Michelle your a star thank yo so much

Wendy

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 15:55

Wendy

Thanks for that info did the trick!Here the family is on the 1901 mistranscribed

1901 England Census
about George Pauler
Name: George Pauler
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

1901 England Census
about Annie Pauler
Name: Annie Pauler
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

1901 England Census
about William T Pauler
Name: William T Pauler
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

George a Carpenter and Joiner

Address Looks like 24 York Road








dodsy

dodsy Report 24 Nov 2008 15:41

Michelle re Panter family, previous 1881 census has George as being born Hanslope Bucks in 1869. He married in 1891 and had a son William Thomas in 1892 I'm sorry not to be more helpful.

Wendy

*****libra

*****libra Report 24 Nov 2008 15:33

Hi Michelle.

Thankyou very much fore your time.




libra.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 15:11

Libra

Only have the birth records

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about William Heath
Name: William Heath
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: McGuire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1343 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Susannah Heath
Name: Susannah Heath
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: McGuire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1460 (click to see others on page)

And if you remember there was a death showing in 1915 Sunderland for a Susannah Heath born c1914

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Susannah Heath
Name: Susannah Heath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 664 (click to see others on page)





Blue1

Blue1 Report 24 Nov 2008 14:54

Thanks Michelle,
i will have to buy the cert,cos my goodness i hope it's not her in the police cells!
Any way this one was a peddler so you never know.i will keep it just in case
Cathie

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 24 Nov 2008 14:51

Catherine

No sign in the name Bethany,Bathney,Amy on the census records.I think its quite likely that because the family were fair folk that they travelled alot and would explain why they are missing in the 1871.The only Amy on the 1871 is this 1 born c1854

1871 England Census
about Amy Roland
Name: Amy Roland
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Prisoner
Gender: Female
Where born: Horsham, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
William Cook 32
Alfred Cox 25
Jeremiah Cox 21
Emily C Croft 15
George Dabon 30
Charles Daniels 17
James Drury 30
James Duman 27
John Green 30
John Langrish 24
Patrick Murphy 30
Henry Neighbour 36
Walter Pearson 26
Coonelins Ralph 23
Amy Roland 17
George Selway 24
George W Smith 34
Marian Smith 31
Rosa Smith 2
Joseph Sullivan 20
Elizabeth Thompson 26
Robert Thompson 33
John Thorn 17
William Veler 25
Sarah Ann Waterer 9

This was taken at a Police Station-Police Cells Love Lane
This Amy was listed as a Licenced Pedler

Will see what else i can find-if i have no luck i would advise you to get the marriage cert of 1878 to get father's name and witness names and then poss the birth cert.




*****libra

*****libra Report 24 Nov 2008 14:51

Thankyou fore your kind offer.

Baptism of.

William Heath B 1912 Sunderland
Susannah Heath b 1914 sunderland.
Thankyou.

libra.