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1851 England Census
about Louisa Chandler
Name: Louisa Chandler
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Andrew Chandler
Name: Andrew Chandler
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Plaistow, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Sarah Jane Chandler
Name: Sarah Jane Chandler
Age: 7 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

George a Glassmaker

Address 1 West Street


Will look for more for you.

Lesley

Got them!!Ok i will show you the 1891 1st as it shows Andrew who was born in Essex and his wife Jessie(Jesse)you were correct she was born in Scotland.I know you have all his kids so i won't break this record down,the main reason i am showing it is so you can see mother Sarah is living with them and then i will show you the 1851 of Andrew as a young child and his parents and his siblings.

1891 England Census
about Andrew Chandler
Name: Andrew Chandler
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jesse
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 42
Jesse Chandler 41
George Chandler 19
William Chandler 17
Miriam Chandler 13
Sarah Chandler 11
Thomas Chandler 8
Susan Chandler 5
Charles Chandler 2
Sarah Chandler 79

Here is Sarah listed as Grandma to Andrew's children.She was not from Scotland she was born in London

1891 England Census
about Sarah Chandler
Name: Sarah Chandler
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Grandmother, Grandma (Grandmother)
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, London, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub registration district: West Ham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 42
Jesse Chandler 41
George Chandler 19
William Chandler 17
Miriam Chandler 13
Sarah Chandler 11
Thomas Chandler 8
Susan Chandler 5
Charles Chandler 2
Sarah Chandler 79

Ok so i know you have later info on Andrew so now to Andrew as a child.

1851 England Census
about George Chandler
Name: George Chandler
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about Sarah Chandler
Name: Sarah Chandler
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

1851 England Census
about George Chandler
Name: George Chandler
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Poplar, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Poplar
Sub registration district: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 69
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Chandler 2
George Chandler 47
George Chandler 11
Louisa Chandler 5
Sarah Chandler 38
Sarah Jane Chandler 7 Mo

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Hi Michelle,
Many thanks for your help.
Regards
Mary

Mary

Can see no sign of her on the 1861 census and saw a poss for daughter Charlotte as a Servant which kind of makes me feel mum could have died?Trouble is there are a few poss deaths in the Hackney area.

Elizabeth Lee 1852 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1851 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1852 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1857 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1858 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1858 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
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Elizabeth Lee 1860 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex

hi sorry but dont have any thing to go on other than it could be up north round about in scotland

Hi Michelle,
Could you see if this person is still alive on the 1861 census please.
Elizabeth Lee b. 1793/6 Harlow, Essex
In 1851 she was living at 2, Caroline Street, Hackney ( a widow on parish benefit.)
with 2 of her children
James Lee b. 1829 Hackney
Charlotte Lee b. 1831 Hackney
Many thanks
Regards
Mary

Cara

The 1871 he is not with his family or maybe missed off??Can't see him elsewhere and isn't dead?

1871 Wales Census
about John Mc Carthy
Name: John Mc Carthy
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 14b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 55
Ellen Mc Carthy 46
Margaret Mc Carthy 18
John Mc Carthy 12
Ellen Mc Carthy 10
Johanna Mc Carthy 7
Johanna Tyner 70

and here is the xtra sibling

1871 Wales Census
about Johanna Mc Carthy
Name: Johanna Mc Carthy
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 14b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 168
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 55
Ellen Mc Carthy 46
Margaret Mc Carthy 18
John Mc Carthy 12
Ellen Mc Carthy 10
Johanna Mc Carthy 7
Johanna Tyner 70

John still a Labourer and address unchanged.
Johanna a Annuitant

Well as long as you are certain his mother was Ellen and sure on birthyear this is the correct family however to make you aware their were a few Michael's on the census records within 10 years of yours and with mother's Ellen and also 1 born 1856 with mother Mary.I would recommend getting the marriage cert if he married to be 100%.

***Michelle***

Cara

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1861 Wales Census
about John Mc Carthy
Name: John Mc Carthy
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Ellen Mc Carthy
Name: Ellen Mc Carthy
Age: 2 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Johanna Tyner
Name: Johanna Tyner
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

John a Labourer
Johanna a Widow and a Washerwoman

difficult to read the address no 13 Duffryn Street

Cara

Here is the 1861 1st.Father's name was John

1861 Wales Census
about John Mc Carthy
Name: John Mc Carthy
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Ellen Mc Carthy
Name: Ellen Mc Carthy
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Mary Mc Carthy
Name: Mary Mc Carthy
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Margaret Mc Carthy
Name: Margaret Mc Carthy
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

1861 Wales Census
about Michael Mc Carthy
Name: Michael Mc Carthy
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cardiff
Sub registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 242
Household Members: Name Age
John Mc Carthy 40
Ellen Mc Carthy 37
Mary Mc Carthy 11
Margaret Mc Carthy 8
Michael Mc Carthy 5
John Mc Carthy 3
Ellen Mc Carthy 2 Mo
Johanna Tyner 60

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Hi Michelle

Please could you look up Michael McCarthy for me on the 1871 census. He was born about 1856 in Cardiff. His mother is Ellen McCarthy. Trying to find out fathers name and who else was living in house. Could you also look on the 1861 census. Thank so much for help.

Cara

lesley

Could you let me know where George Chandler and wife were born please?

Thanks

***Michelle***

hi it is me again lesley a new look up a george chandler birth abt 1800 to 1803 wife sarah birth abt 1810 to 1813 if you could help with finding any more kids i have one andrew birth abt 1847 and his wife was jessie i have all andrew kids but with a bit of luck find his siblings your's xxxxx lesley
p.s if you could find sarah maiden name and also jessie i know jessie was birth is scotland

Michelle,

Very many thanks !

Today is Thanksgiving so I shall have to go over these very many data on the weekend.

Anthony

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Hi Michelle

Great service as usual from you. I think that you have found all the info. that I was looking for re my Fletchers.

Regards

John

HI MICHELLE,
YES I HAVE THAT ONE (O1 530) PLUS 01C 660 AND
O1 554
ON THE FIRST CERT ( MARRIAGE) SHE PUT FATHER DOWN AS CHARLES SMITH, SECOND ONE FATHER ROBERT???

John

Unless John T is father of John James?This is the family on the 1891 is this the 2 John's you are after?

1891 England Census
about John Fletcher
Name: John Fletcher
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oldbury
Town: Oldbury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Fletcher 45
Mary A Fletcher 50
John J Fletcher 22
Annie Fletcher 20
William Fletcher 17

John

Here you go!

1901 England Census
about John T Fletcher
Name: John T Fletcher
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
John T Fletcher 56
Sarah A Fletcher 57
John Garbett 66

1901 England Census
about Sarah A Fletcher
Name: Sarah A Fletcher
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Princes End Tipton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
John T Fletcher 56
Sarah A Fletcher 57
John Garbett 66

1901 England Census
about John Garbett
Name: John Garbett
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: West Bromwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub registration district: West Bromwich South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 64
Household Members: Name Age
John T Fletcher 56
Sarah A Fletcher 57
John Garbett 66

John Labourer Drain and Sewage Work
John Lodger a Widower and no occupation listed

Address 4 Old End

Hi Michelle

Would you please look in 1901 most likely Oldbury or West Bromwich for the following Fletchers

John T aged abt 56 Born West Bromwich and
John James aged abt 33 Born Newtown Staffs

I would like to know were they are both living.

Thanks in advance

John

Margaret

Not alot i can help you with now sorry.I think the answer is to wait for the 1911-due i believe next year.
This will show where the Smiths were at this time and will help.You really need Electoral Roll lookup but i don't have access to these.
With only BMD's to work on not easy especially with the surname Smith,
Sorry.

Michelle