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1851 England Census
about Edward Shackleton
Name: Edward Shackleton
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Heptonstall, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Harrison 73
Edward Shackleton 53
Joseph Shackleton 20
Martha Shackleton 48
Martha Ann Shackleton 12
Sarah Shackleton 10

1851 England Census
about Martha Shackleton
Name: Martha Shackleton
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Edward
Gender: Female
Where born: Colne, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Harrison 73
Edward Shackleton 53
Joseph Shackleton 20
Martha Shackleton 48
Martha Ann Shackleton 12
Sarah Shackleton 10

1851 England Census
about Joseph Shackleton
Name: Joseph Shackleton
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Colne, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Harrison 73
Edward Shackleton 53
Joseph Shackleton 20
Martha Shackleton 48
Martha Ann Shackleton 12
Sarah Shackleton 10

1851 England Census
about Martha Ann Shackleton
Name: Martha Ann Shackleton
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Colne, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Harrison 73
Edward Shackleton 53
Joseph Shackleton 20
Martha Shackleton 48
Martha Ann Shackleton 12
Sarah Shackleton 10

1851 England Census
about Sarah Shackleton
Name: Sarah Shackleton
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Female
Where born: Colne, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Colne
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Colne
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub registration district: Colne
ED, institution, or vessel: 4f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
John Harrison 73
Edward Shackleton 53
Joseph Shackleton 20
Martha Shackleton 48
Martha Ann Shackleton 12
Sarah Shackleton 10

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helo michelle
i was wondering if you could help me with a lookup
sarah shackleton of colne lancs
married john storey
may of lived in black road witton le wear at age of 10
born 1841
thanks alot helen

Marie

1891 Poss continued...

1891 Scotland Census
about Jermima Brown
Name: Jermima Brown
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 18
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about Arthur Brown
Name: Arthur Brown
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about Jessie Brown
Name: Jessie Brown
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 19
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

This is only a poss as without parents names you can't be 100% until you have the cert back up.
Have you thought about looking at the marriage record on this site?

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Free to register but you do have to pay to view but as you have the year names etc of the couple you won't need to search through loads.Also Scottish marriage records hold both parents names normally and more info than the English

I am really tired as i have been to work tonight then be working on yours and another lookup,so i am off to bed now and will work on your other 1 tomorrow.
Let me know what you think re the Mary Brown i found?

***Michelle***

Marie

Here looks like a good poss 1891 for Mary and her sisters and family.The 2 sister's birthyears are not exact but it is only 1 i can see with those 2 sister's names and details for Mary being correct

1891 Scotland Census
about James Brown
Name: James Brown
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeen
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Hawker
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Brown
Name: Elizabeth Brown
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : James
Gender: Female
Where born: South Leith, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about Mary Brown
Name: Mary Brown
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: South Leith, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Dressmaker
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about James Brown
Name: James Brown
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Dockyard, Woolwich
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Apprentice Brassfinisher
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 15
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about William Brown
Name: William Brown
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 16
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

1891 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Brown
Name: Elizabeth Brown
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/5
Registration district: Newington
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 13 Gibbs Entry
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 32
Household schedule number: 19
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1891_354
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Brown 7
Elizabeth Brown 38
Elizabeth Brown 12
James Brown 42
James Brown 17
Jermima Brown 9
Jessie Brown 6
Mary Brown 20
William Brown 13

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oops sorry Michelle
Andrew Hayward and Mary Brown Married approx 1895 .



Marie

Marie.
Hi Michelle,
Mary Brown b c.1871/72 buried 01//05/1947 Mackay aged 75yrs.children
Lillian Wallace b17/12/1895 Scot.
Andrew John b1896/7 Died1914/15 France
Sarah Jane Law b28/03/1905 Scot.
Elizabeth Brown b14/11/1909 Scot.

Janet Duncanson Bull Buried 10/08/1937
aged 54yrs.
issue Benjamin b 17/10/1905 Scot.
.Margaret Fox, b24/03/1908 Scot.
Agnes McMillan Brodi b11/10/1910 Scot.
Last child Walter b 14/03/1924 2nd Name
Alexander. Born Aust.
Michelle I dont have any certs for this family.
I included all the 2nd names, I thought it might help.
Thank you for this Michelle.
Kindest Regards
Marie from OZ.

Marie

I have not fogotten you i am just awaiting your answers to the questions i had left you.

Michelle : )

Anne

Can you give me details of the cert,witness names and address of Alexander at marriage.

tricky 1 this is.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,
I am trying to find info on Alexander Wood.
I've got him in 1891& 1901 census,coal miner living in Murton Co Durham, both of which state born in 1863/64 Spennymoor, Co Durham.
I have his death in 1914 in Murton
I can't find his birth anywhere - the only Alexander Wood I can find is 1864 in Morpeth, which is nowhere near Spennymoor!
I can't find him in 1871 or 1881 census either
I have his marriage certificate (to Mary Jane Dixon) in 1888 which give his father as John Wood, coal miner, deceased.
Any help greatly appreciated

Thanks
Anne

Hi Michelle

Thank you very much. That has really helped me to start to unravel my John Needham mystery.

Thanks again
Lisa

Marie

Will be working on yours later.I had a quick look and saw the 1901 you mentioned with Mary(nee Brown) and her husband and the children etc.Couple of questions.

1)Have you the marriage record for Mary and Andrew?reason i ask is looking back at earlier census records there are a few Mary Browns from the area Mary is listed as being born on the 1901.

2)Do you know what year Janet married Walter?

I am guessing you do not have the marriage record or else you wouldn't be asking for the parents?

Any extra info would really help here as Brown not an easy surname to find-there are quite a few!

***Michelle***

Hi Michelle ,
I have just noticed i have misspelt Janets surname.

It should be Duncanson with 2 n's

Sorry Marie from OZ.

Marie
from
OZ
Please Michelle
I. would like to find the Parents of Mary Hayward nee Brown born Scotland c1871= c1895 to Andrew Newlands Clark Hayward who was born c1871 in Scotland possibly at Inveresk,as this is where his parents died. Midlothian has also been mentioned.

Andrew and Mary came to Australia some time after 1911.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I am also looking for the Parents of Janet Duncason Bull bc1883 she = Walter Hayward b 21/10/1883 Scot

In the1901 census their Address is 35 Buccleuch Pl. Edinburgh Scot,.with them were their children Lillian 5yrs.Andrew 4 yrs. Andrews sister Isabella and Janets sisters Jessie 14 yrs.and Jemima 12 yrs.
Walter and Janet and their children arrived in Mackay Qld Australia on 26/09/1911on the ship" Wypara.".

I hope this information is of help to you Thank you Michelle for all the good work you do for others. Oops almost forgot to say Andrew and Walter were Brothers,

Parents were F Benjamin Hayward B 1839 West Coker UK. M.Marion Newland b.c 1835 Scotland m 15/11/1869 dont know where .
Benjamin was a gunner at Fort Leith.
Kindest Regards Marie.

Lisa

Hope 1 of them is what you are looking for.I do not have Find My Past and on the site i use there was not 2 in Rotherham?Maybe mistranscribed on Ancestry?There are others 1811 and 1793 let me know if you want these.Or if you need further info on any of them.

***Michelle***

Lisa

Another 1!

1841 England Census
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Olave Mary Gate
Hundred: Bulmer
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: York
Sub registration district: Bootham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 47
Mary Needham 40
Mary Smith 10


John a Labourer

Address Mary gate

Lisa

A small 1 so will do both

1841 England Census
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil Parish: Darrington
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Pontefract
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Phillis Needham 40

1841 England Census
about Phillis Needham
Name: Phillis Needham
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Darrington
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Upper Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Pontefract
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Phillis Needham 40

John a Gamekeeper

Address Brocadale Cottages

Lisa

Another 1

1841 England Census
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
Hundred: Beverley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Beverley
Sub registration district: Beverley
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 35
Isabella Needham 25
John Needham 4
William Needham 3
Maria Needham 10
Mary Needham 8
Emma Needham 3 Mo

John a Groom

Address Vicar Lane

Lisa

Some of the others are big records so i will not break these down unless there is 1 in particular you are interested in.These are the top choices i am sending and the 1 i just sent was the top choice for birthyear.

1841 England Census
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Halifax
Hundred: Morley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Todmorden
Sub registration district: Hebden Bridge
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Crabtree 60
Sally Crabtree 40
Hannah Crabtree 30
Esther Crabtree 20
John Needham 35
Betty Needham 35
George Needham 15
Thomas Needham 12
Hannah Needham 9
Crabtree Needham 5
James Needham 4 Mo

John a Moulder
John Crabtree a Saxton
Sally a Cotton Drawer
George a Shoe Maker

Address Unclear

Lisa

Not a problem!

1841 England Census
about John Needham
Name: John Needham
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Elizabeth Needham 40
Thomas Needham 20
Mary Needham 7

1841 England Census
about Elizabeth Needham
Name: Elizabeth Needham
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Elizabeth Needham 40
Thomas Needham 20
Mary Needham 7

1841 England Census
about Thomas Needham
Name: Thomas Needham
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Elizabeth Needham 40
Thomas Needham 20
Mary Needham 7

1841 England Census
about Mary Needham
Name: Mary Needham
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Rotherham
Sub registration district: Wath
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Needham 40
Elizabeth Needham 40
Thomas Needham 20
Mary Needham 7

John a Farmer
Thomas a Coal Miner

Address West Millon

Yes it certainy has, you are a star thank you, once again you have helped me....another new line to follow now lol.....more work!! lol.....Lilly