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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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Shelley

Shelley Report 16 Dec 2008 09:14

Thanks so much for trying, Michelle. I guess he will stay a dead-end, unless I can check parish registers in Ramsgate. I live in Western Australia, so that's a bit difficult from here! Also it's a long shot since I don't have any other evidence to say he was born in Ramsgate.
Cheers
Shelley

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 08:51

Shelley

We can count the 1 you found out Shelley.I have followed him on 1871 listed as Forman and then on the 1881 listed as Chester again

1881 England Census
about William Chester
Name: William Chester
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes
Gender: Male
Where born: Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Derby St Peter
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England

Street address: 27 Liversage St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Foreman At Boot Manufactory

Registration district: Derby
Sub registration district: Derby
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Chester 26
Agnes Chester 31
Florence Chester 7


Also couldn't see a marriage suitable for Sarah to a Thomas in that area.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 08:28

Shelley

Thanks alot for the info it was very interesting.I had a look for a marriage between a Sarah Chester and a Joseph Foreman....and i found 1 in 1859 in leicestershire

Sarah Chester 1859 Loughborough Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
View Record
Joseph Foreman 1859 Loughborough Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Chester
Name: Sarah Chester
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Loughborough
County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 168 (click to see others on page)

Will look for more on this lady to see if she is the mother of William.


Shelley

Shelley Report 16 Dec 2008 05:49

Hi Michelle

Re William Henry Chester (again):

- Ramsgate was on his first child's birth certificate. It's always possible that he grew up there but wasn't actually born there or vice versa. I have found in the 1861 census a William Chester born in 1854 and christened in Loughborough in 1855 with a mother Sarah and a Stepfather Joseph Forman. Thomas may have died earlier.

- I don't know that he was still in England for the 1861 census - that was just another place I looked for him.

- There is no record on the shipping lists to NSW or Victoria of Thomas or Sarah Chester and there were no children born to parents of those names in NSW between 1855 and 1885.

- I have found a W Chester who entered Victoria in 1877 on the ship Alhambra from New Zealand who was the right age. There were only 3 other Chesters on that ship but one had no initial and the other was "F".

- His father's occupation was left blank on the marriage certificate. William Henry was a caretaker. Family folklore was that he was a jeweller in Kent, which is highly doubtful since he ended up as an engineer on the goldmines in Southern Cross in Western Australia. He 'walked' across Australia from Sydney to Southern Cross with his wife and first four children and died in Perth, Western Australia in 1920.

- Witnesses were Henry Campbell and Caroline Sainty, who most probably were Annie Louisa Campbell's oldest brother and oldest married sister. Henry Campbell was also her father's name. Suggests that William Chester had no family in Sydney where they married.

Sorry there's not much to go on.

Thanks for trying so hard.

Shelley

EyebrowsEd

EyebrowsEd Report 16 Dec 2008 00:51

I think I may have to send off to see if our Thomas is William's father ... if he is I'll let you know.

Thanks very much for all your help, Michelle, it's much appreciated.

Ed

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:45

Ed

Glad ive made your mum happy!Here is William's birth record incase you might want to send for it.However there are 2 born around this time!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about William Winter
Name: William Winter
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Berkhampstead (1837-1939)
County: Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 475 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about William Winter
Name: William Winter
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Berkhampstead (1837-1939)
County: Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 482 (click to see others on page)

Wonder if father will be listed???

EyebrowsEd

EyebrowsEd Report 16 Dec 2008 00:39

I'm starting to wonder about William ... my mum will love this!

Ed

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:34

Ed

And lastly here looks like the parents marriage

IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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JOHN WINTER Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: FANNY GROVER Family
Marriage: 22 NOV 1814 Great Berkhampstead, Hertford, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:30

Ed

John's death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Winter
Name: John Winter
Year of Registration: 1847
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Berkhampstead (1837-1939)
County: Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 6
Page: 317 (click to see others on page)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:23

Ed

Looking at the marriage date and 1st son looks like she was pregnant when they married...there is your scandal!!

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:21

Ed

here is the 1841

1841 England Census
about John Winter
Name: John Winter
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

1841 England Census
about Fanny Winter
Name: Fanny Winter
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

1841 England Census
about John Winter
Name: John Winter
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

1841 England Census
about Ann Winter
Name: Ann Winter
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

1841 England Census
about Eliza Winter
Name: Eliza Winter
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

1841 England Census
about Ellen Winter
Name: Ellen Winter
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female
Where born: Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Great Berkhampstead
Hundred: Dacorum
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Winter 55
Fanny Winter 50
John Winter 25
Ann Winter 20
Eliza Winter 15
Ellen Winter 2

John A Ag Lab
John Son a Waterman

Interesting lot then!!Well the scandal is William was born out of wedlock to Eliza and she was with her family on the 1851 and then married in 1856.
Let me know if you need anything further.

***Michelle***

















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:15

Ed

Have the answer for you.

1st here is the 1851 of son William Winter with his Grandmother-notice her name-Fanny.Surname Mistranscibed as Winters.

.1851 England Census
about Fanny Winters
Name: Fanny Winters
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

1851 England Census
about Eliza Winters
Name: Eliza Winters
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

1851 England Census
about Ellen Winters
Name: Ellen Winters
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

1851 England Census
about Rebecca Groves
Name: Rebecca Groves
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

1851 England Census
about John Groves
Name: John Groves
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

1851 England Census
about William Winters
Name: William Winters
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Berkhamstead
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Berkhampstead
Sub registration district: Berkhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 4c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Fanny Winters 60
John Groves 36
Eliza Winters 25
Ellen Winters 12
Rebecca Groves 4
William Winters 1

Fanny a Laundress and a Widow
John a Labourer and a Widow
Eliza Unmarried and a Straw Platter

Can't make address out sorry.

Will show you the complete family on the 1841 with the father from the Christening record i found.



















EyebrowsEd

EyebrowsEd Report 16 Dec 2008 00:10

Thanks for the tip Michelle! I look forward to hearing some more ...

Thomas was a bit of a lad - family legend says my great-grandfather was one of 23 children ... I wonder if you've unearthed a bit of a family scandal??!!

Their first child together was Alfred - registered in Jan-Feb-Mar 1857!

Ed

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:06

Ed

Here is the couples marriage correct after 1854,marriage was 1856

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
View Record
Thomas Tarbo[Yx] 1856 Berkhampstead (1837-1939) Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
View Record
Eliza Winter 1856 Berkhampstead (1837-1939) Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Eliza Winter
Name: Eliza Winter
Year of Registration: 1856
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Berkhampstead (1837-1939)
County: Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 446 (click to see others on page)


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 16 Dec 2008 00:02

Ed

Hi Ed!

I will look into this more but i found this which is interesting and made me wonder if Eliza had William out of wedlock?

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Eliza Winter
Name: Eliza Winter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 30 Dec 1825
Christening Date: 16 Apr 1826
Christening Place: Great Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: John Winter
Mother's Name: Fanny

Will check on this and let you know.

EyebrowsEd

EyebrowsEd Report 15 Dec 2008 23:50

Hi Michelle,

Don't know if you can help, but I am trying to get my great-great grandmother's maiden name. I'm at a brick wall on this so any assistance you could give would greatly appreciated!

Her first name was Eliza and she was born in c1826 in Berkhamstead and was the second wife of Thomas Tarbox, a Labourer also of Berkhamstead born in 1811.

I think she was married before, as the 1861 Census shows that they have a son who's called William Winter living with them. My great-great grandfather's first wife passed away in 1854, so I'm guessing they married some point after that.

Any help you can give at all would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,
Ed

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Dec 2008 23:35

Maurice

Poss for William Harold is this 1 none showing for William Harold nearest is William Henry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about William Henry Thompson
Name: William Henry Thompson
Year of Registration: 1907
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 615 (click to see others on page)

Henry is often used for Harold and vice versa.Marriage and other birth details on previous page.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Dec 2008 23:25

Maurice

Here is the marriage-has 2 spellings of the brides surname!!Marriage was in 1906

Annie Elizabeth Curtlin 1906 Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Annie Elizabeth Custlin 1906 Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Alfred Henry Thompson 1906 Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Alfred Henry Thompson
Name: Alfred Henry Thompson
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1059 (click to see others on page)

2 possible children

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Frederick L Thompson
Name: Frederick L Thompson
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Curtlin
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1550 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Walter S Thompson
Name: Walter S Thompson
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Curtlin
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 1196 (click to see others on page)

More possible children although can't say for def as mother's maiden name was not placed on records at this time.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Albert Thompson
Name: Albert Thompson
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 595 (click to see others on page)

Possible named after mum??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Annie Elizabeth Thompson
Name: Annie Elizabeth Thompson
Year of Registration: 1909
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Rugby
County: Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 614 (click to see others on page)

Here are other births in this area for Thompson

Doris A Thompson 1910 Oct-Nov-Dec Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Florence Thompson 1910 Jan-Feb-Mar Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Gladys Emily Thompson 1908 Jan-Feb-Mar Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Gwendoline E Thompson 1910 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Harold George Thompson 1908 Apr-May-Jun Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Herbert William Thompson 1909 Jan-Feb-Mar Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire

Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Hubert George Thompson 1908 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Jessie Lilian Thompson 1906 Jan-Feb-Mar Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

John Ernest Thompson 1909 Oct-Nov-Dec Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Joseph Harry Thompson 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Leonard William Thompson 1909 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Levi Frank Thompson 1907 Apr-May-Jun Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Lewis Anderson Thompson 1907 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Marjorie Thompson 1907 Oct-Nov-Dec Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Thomas Charles Thompson 1908 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

Vera Emma Thompson 1908 Oct-Nov-Dec Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire

Name Year of Registration Quarter of Registration District County View Image Order Record
View Record

Walter Herbert Thompson 1909 Jul-Aug-Sep Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire
View Record

William Henry Thompson 1907 Apr-May-Jun Rugby Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Warwickshire

Quite a few isn't there!!



















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Dec 2008 22:46

James

have Ann for you on the 1891 but no sign of Charles??I wonder if he had taken a visit home to Ireland.Here he is on the 1901 with Ann.

1901 England Census
about Charles Logan
Name: Charles Logan
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: Egremont St John and Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Logan 38
Ann Logan 36
Lizzie Logan 6
Frances Logan 5
Josephine Logan 10 months

1901 England Census
about Ann Logan
Name: Ann Logan
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: Egremont St John and Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Logan 38
Ann Logan 36
Lizzie Logan 6
Frances Logan 5
Josephine Logan 10 months

1901 England Census
about Lizzie Logan
Name: Lizzie Logan
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: Egremont St John and Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Logan 38
Ann Logan 36
Lizzie Logan 6
Frances Logan 5
Josephine Logan 10 months

1901 England Census
about Frances Logan
Name: Frances Logan
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: Egremont St John and Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Logan 38
Ann Logan 36
Lizzie Logan 6
Frances Logan 5
Josephine Logan 10 months

1901 England Census
about Josephine Logan
Name: Josephine Logan
Age: 10 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Egremont, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Liscard
Ecclesiastical parish: Egremont St John and Liscard
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub registration district: Wallasey
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 98
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Logan 38
Ann Logan 36
Lizzie Logan 6
Frances Logan 5
Josephine Logan 10 months


Charles worked on the roads-occupation a little unclear.
Ann Laundress

Address 4 Guildford Street.

Sorry bout the 1891.Saw a poss for him on the 1881 birthyear being 1860 for that was in Cheshire aged 17.No sign on the 1871 and as no family members of his were witnesses i would say he came to England alone to work??

Michelle











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Dec 2008 22:22

James

1891 for Ann Barlow

1891 England Census
about George Barlow
Name: George Barlow
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wavertree, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Barlow 47
Elizabeth Barlow 53
Ann Barlow 26
Mary Woodrofe 21
William G Barlow 3

1891 England Census
about Elizabeth Barlow
Name: Elizabeth Barlow
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Woolton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Barlow 47
Elizabeth Barlow 53
Ann Barlow 26
Mary Woodrofe 21
William G Barlow 3

1891 England Census
about Ann Barlow
Name: Ann Barlow
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Wavertree, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Barlow 47
Elizabeth Barlow 53
Ann Barlow 26
Mary Woodrofe 21
William G Barlow 3


1891 England Census
about Mary Woodrofe
Name: Mary Woodrofe
[Mary Barlow]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Barlow 47
Elizabeth Barlow 53
Ann Barlow 26
Mary Woodrofe 21
William G Barlow 3


1891 England Census
about William G Barlow
Name: William G Barlow
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Toxteth Park
Sub registration district: Toxteth Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 72
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Barlow 47
Elizabeth Barlow 53
Ann Barlow 26
Mary Woodrofe 21
William G Barlow 3

George a Whitesmith
Ann a Laundress

Address 69 Alt Street

And look witness Mary is here and was her sister.