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17 Dec 2008 10:10 |
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1881 Poss for James Continued....
1881 England Census about Thomas Durkin Name: Thomas Durkin Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Cousin Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Worsted Spinner Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about John Yuinane Name: John Yuinane Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Stone Mason Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about Catherine Sweeney Name: Catherine Sweeney Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Boarder Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Worsted Spinner Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about Michael Murphy Name: Michael Murphy Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Mason Labourer Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about Patrick Larkin Name: Patrick Larkin Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Groom Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
Occupations can change and its poss that when he married their may not have been much work around so he had gone to work in a friends bakers?Its obvious that his main job was Mason and if this is on his son's birth cert also then you know that is for sure. Will see what else i can find but it maybe that the 1881 is the 1st census we see this family on as they were from Ireland they may have come over for work when they reached 13-17 years old. Still would like the ages on the marriage cert though please for James and Annie.
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17 Dec 2008 10:04 |
Pat
I do believe this could be James on the 1881.Listed as born in Ireland-this was my gut instinct he was Irish born.You may have already got this 1881?Same road as listed on the marriage cert.
1881 England Census about Harriet Martin Name: Harriet Martin Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower) Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: House Keeper (Lodgers) Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about John Martin Name: John Martin Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Stuff Finisher Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about Patrick Martin Name: Patrick Martin Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Harriet Gender: Male Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Worsted Spinner Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about Harriet Durkin Name: Harriet Durkin Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Cousin Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Wool Comber (Stuff) Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
1881 England Census about James Durkin Name: James Durkin Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Cousin Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 114 Longcroft Place Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Stone Mason Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 41 John Martin 18 Patrick Martin 14 James Durkin 16 Thomas Durkin 14 Harriet Durkin 20 Patrick Larkin 17 John Yuinane 30 Catherine Sweeney 21 Michael Murphy 23
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17 Dec 2008 09:49 |
Pat
Wow a tricky 1 and i will need time on this 1 as you said lots of Irish-Yorkshire Durkin Mason's on the records!
Here looks like Annie in the same road as her marriage cert and 1 of the witnesses was Thomas who does look to be her brother
1881 England Census about Annie Mullaney Name: Annie Mullaney Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Granddaughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 25a Dyson St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Worsted Spinner Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Doble 63 John Mullaney 54 Mary Mullaney 44 Thos. Mullaney 22 Annie Mullaney 16 Lizzie Mullaney 12 Michael Mullaney 8 Patrick Conboy 30 Bridget Conboy 24 Maggie Causfield 24 Thomas Causfield 2
He was born in Ireland so looks poss that the family came over between Thomas and Annie being born.Annie is listed as born in Bradford.
1881 England Census about Thos. Mullaney Name: Thos. Mullaney Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Grandson Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Mayo, Ireland Civil Parish: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: 25a Dyson St Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Bill Poster Registration district: Bradford Sub registration district: Bradford, West End ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Doble 63 John Mullaney 54 Mary Mullaney 44 Thos. Mullaney 22 Annie Mullaney 16 Lizzie Mullaney 12 Michael Mullaney 8 Patrick Conboy 30 Bridget Conboy 24 Maggie Causfield 24 Thomas Causfield 2
So now to James i need to have a good look at this.
Could you let me have the ages on the marriage cert for James and Annie please.Also seems odd that Baker is listed as occupation this is a trade and quite removed from Mason work??Have you got James 1887 birth cert?Was occupation of father Mason on that?I think its likely that the family may have been in Ireland for the 1901 as they not showing as yet-but will look further. If you could give me the details i have listed i will take a long look.
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17 Dec 2008 00:09 |
Hi Michelle,
The work and search you have done is fantastic,there is no way I could have found all this information on my own.Yes it is all very interesting with my family but also exciting.Thank you so much.If you come up with anything else just let me know but for know I have a lot to take in.Once again THANK YOU,take care,Joanne.Sydney Australia.
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16 Dec 2008 23:44 |
Thanks Michelle, hadn't realised how late it was - night night!!
Speak tomorrow
Pat
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16 Dec 2008 23:38 |
Pat and Caroline
Happy to help im off to bed though now as i have been working in day job today and running around after my toddler and also done lots on here today-worn out!!! Will get back to yours when next on tomorrow.Hope you don't mind waiting.
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16 Dec 2008 23:28 |
Michelle,
Perhaps you could help me thro the trees? I'm not being lazy, have spent so much time trying to distinguish between all "James Durkin Mason/labourers" that I'm going round in circles!!
Info found so far:
My grandparents were 1st cousins. (My grandmothers mother was Annie McGlenn (nee Durkin), sister of James, my grandfather).
Grandfather - James Durkin (1887) m Margaret McGlenn (1887), have been able to follow back on her side (McGlenns). The birth & marr. cert of grandfather states his father (James again) was a Mason/Masons Labourer and his mother's name was Annie Mullaney.
I was unable to find him in the 1901 census. I think I found him in 1891 census aged as 2 yrs staying with relatives (Mullaneys) at 26 Longcroft Rd Bradford. I believe his parents James & Annie Durkin (nee Mullaney) stayed a few doors down at 84 Longcroft Rd. Going back from this is where I've got a bit lost!! So many Masons Labourers called James Durkin!!
I got marr. cert for G G/F James (1862c) who married Annie Mullaney (1864c) in 1882, his address was 56 Duncan St, Bradford and hers was 27 Dyson St. Bradford, but his occupation was stated as a "Baker" and not Mason or Labourer. Witnesses at this wedding were Thomas Mullaney and Margaret Durkin (siblings?). Can't find any Durkins with occupation as Baker. Not sure which occupation to follow now.
G G/F James Durkin's father was called John (GGG/F) who was deceased at his son's wedding date, his occupation was Tailor - can't seem to find one of those either.
Until I can find more definate info on the G Grandfather I am unable to send for his birth certificate, because I'm not really sure if he was born in Bradford or Ireland. There are no elderly relatives left to ask.
Is there any chance that you could point me in the right direction. I've looked on Ancestry and Genes, but just seem to be going round and round in circles, and going over the same things.
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16 Dec 2008 23:16 |
Caroline
With regards to Henry-what info did you have that you were basing the mother being Florence?Also do you know if he was born in Birmingham?and are you certain re birthyear? If you could let me know i will take a look for you.
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16 Dec 2008 23:02 |
Hi Michelle - thanks for that - i thought as much, they were only made compulsury in recent times which makes it really hard. I do have some english relatives I'm trying to trace also. It Henry Meaking c1900 - i have found a census from 1901 that contains him in it - but we thought his mother was called florence, but on the census its Alice Meakin. Henry was born in Birmingham. Dont know if that much use? x
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16 Dec 2008 22:30 |
Caroline
Im sorry but i do not have Irish records.My advise is to try Inis on the Record Office Board he might be able to help as his area is Irish records.If not he will be able to advise you.Do a search of the Records Office Board for his thread(Think its a he??). Also another thing you can do is to obtain the marriage cert of 1950 this would give you the father's name. Have a good google for Belfast records-they maybe some online.Irish Ancestry is not easy and their aren't so many records as the English. Best of luck to you and sorry i can't help you.If you ever need English,Welsh or Scottish records from the census or BMD's for England let me know-have plenty for these.
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16 Dec 2008 22:25 |
kath In France
Poss for Jane-here is a poss marriage and i will look for a poss 1841 for this couple
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JANE HARWOOD Pedigree Female Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: GEORGE MOSLEY Family Marriage: 16 JAN 1833 Pinchbeck, Lincoln, England
I wonder if this is them??
1841 England Census about George Mozley Name: George Mozley Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Grantham Hundred: Grantham Borough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 30 Jane Mozley 25 Ann Mozley 7
1841 England Census about Jane Mozley Name: Jane Mozley Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Grantham Hundred: Grantham Borough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 30 Jane Mozley 25 Ann Mozley 7
1841 England Census about Ann Mozley Name: Ann Mozley Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Female Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Grantham Hundred: Grantham Borough County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 30 Jane Mozley 25 Ann Mozley 7
George a Waiter
Cant read the address as the writing is so faint on this image
and here is the 1861 of Jane showing her birthplace and still 1 child.
1861 England Census about George Mozley Name: George Mozley Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Sandleft, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Grantham Town: Grantham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 52 Jane Mozley 47 Ann Mozley 27
1861 England Census about Jane Mozley Name: Jane Mozley Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: George Gender: Female Where born: Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Grantham Town: Grantham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 52 Jane Mozley 47 Ann Mozley 27
1861 England Census about Ann Mozley Name: Ann Mozley Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: Pinchbeck, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Grantham Town: Grantham County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Grantham Sub registration district: Grantham ED, institution, or vessel: 2g Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 141 Household Members: Name Age George Mozley 52 Jane Mozley 47 Ann Mozley 27
George a Millwright and looks like Lincolnshire birthplace on census image.Unsure though very blurred. Ann a Dressmaker Address Could be 1 Parker's Yard
Don't you just love census writer's!!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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16 Dec 2008 21:57 |
Hi Michelle - can you help me? I'm looking for a date and parents of a Henry Charles Hicks who was born in 1926 - Belfast, county antrim. He must have travelled over from Ireland at some point as he married my nan Elsie Meaking in Stratford Upon Avon in 1950. I'm really trying to find out his parents names and when/why they came they came over to England. Any help would be much appreciated as I'm at a loss. Thanks alot Caroline x
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16 Dec 2008 21:08 |
Kath In France
Harwood family on the 1841 proving a little more tricky.Did John the father remarry?I found a poss marriage for him and have seen a poss for him on the 1841-51 with this new wife.
Sarah Clark 1839 Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record John Harwood 1839 Holbeach Lincolnshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about John Harwood Name: John Harwood Year of Registration: 1839 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Holbeach County: Lincolnshire Volume: 14 Page: 525 (click to see others on page)
I know you wanted the other family members but thought i would mention it incase you did not have this info. The girls i believe must have married or died and no sign of James yet but will keep looking for you as i haven't checked all the girls yet.
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16 Dec 2008 20:27 |
Kath In France
Have been looking for a marriage for James to see who his 1st wife was....not an easy 1 look at the marriage record!
Charlotte Brooks 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Edward Ilett Bull 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Edward Stott Bull 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Elizabeth Gray 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record James Laws 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Eliza Letchfield 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Mary Martin 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record William Richardson 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Richard Skeels 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire View Record Elizabeth Warits 1845 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about James Laws Name: James Laws Year of Registration: 1845 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: North Witchford County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 14 Page: 173 (click to see others on page)
There are no census with them together because by 1851 she had died.We know John was born around 1846 so she must have died between 1846-1851.Looking on the names on the marriage record and poss deaths for female Laws between above dates i would say this could be her....
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Mary Laws Name: Mary Laws Year of Registration: 1849 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: North Witchford County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 14 Page: 92 (click to see others on page)
but this is presuming they stayed in same area as marriage record.To know for sure you would need to obtain the marriage to see what her maiden name was or John's birth cert or even this death cert to see who registered it.
Hope this has helped and let me know if i can help further.
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16 Dec 2008 20:15 |
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1851 Continued for James Laws husband of Mary Ann Harwood
1851 England Census about Mary Laws Name: Mary Laws Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Welch Dam, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
1851 England Census about Ann Laws Name: Ann Laws Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
1851 England Census about John Laws Name: John Laws Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
John Mary James all Ag Labs James listed as a Widower
Address Hive End
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16 Dec 2008 20:10 |
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Continued 1861 of Mary Ann Haywood(Laws)
1861 England Census about Sarah J Laws Name: Sarah J Laws Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
1861 England Census about Arthur J Laws Name: Arthur J Laws Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
James a Engineer Stoker John a Shoemaker's Apprentice
Address not very clear looks like Hive End?
Now to James :Laws...here is his 1851 showing like i mentioned he was Widowed and with parents and his son John Laws.I will check image to ensure James is listed as father to John.
1851 England Census about John Laws Name: John Laws Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Welch Dam, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
1851 England Census about Mary Laws Name: Mary Laws Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gender: Female Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
1851 England Census about James Laws Name: James Laws Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Welch Dam, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
1851 England Census about Hannah Laws Name: Hannah Laws Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Welch Dam, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 3f Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 158 Household Members: Name Age John Laws 51 Mary Laws 51 James Laws 30 Hannah Laws 22 Mary Laws 17 Ann Laws 9 John Laws 5
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16 Dec 2008 20:01 |
Kath in France
Hi Kath and nice to hear from you.
The record you found of Mary Ann as Servant was actually the 1851
1851 England Census about Mary Ann Harwood Name: Mary Ann Harwood Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Fleet, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Fleet County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Holbeach Sub registration district: Gedney Hill ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 52 Household Members: Name Age John Massey 42 Sophia B Massey 36 William Massey 16 Frederick Massey 14 John Burtt Massey 10 Elizabeth Burtt 58 Elizth Lydia Irwin 33 Mary Ann Harwood 25 Mary Hannah May 22 Thomas Gray May 18
Possible marriage would advise you to get the marriage cert to ensure this is the correct Mary
Mary Ann Harwood 1855 Holbeach Lincolnshire View Record James Laws 1855 Holbeach Lincolnshire
Here is the 1861 of this Mary and James and Fleet is listed as birthplace also their is a son aged 15 i believe this to be James's son from a previous marriage as i have found James with his parents and John(Son)on the 1851 listed as a Widower.We show these as well.
1861 England Census about James Laws Name: James Laws Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
1861 England Census about Mary A Laws Name: Mary A Laws Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: Fleet Laie, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
1861 England Census about John Laws Name: John Laws Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
1861 England Census about Anne M Laws Name: Anne M Laws Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Female Where born: Chatteris, Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Chatteris Town: Chatteris County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: North Witchford Sub registration district: Chatteris ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 124 Household Members: Name Age James Laws 40 Mary A Laws 35 John Laws 15 Anne M Laws 4 Sarah J Laws 3 Arthur J Laws 1
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16 Dec 2008 18:54 |
Joanne
Sorry no luck with William-being a Mariner makes him tricky-was prob at sea on the 1851 as children were with Margaret.You will need to get the marriage cert of 1851 to see who Williams father is. Hope that has helped and i could find more if you get stuck on Margaret's side as i have alot of info i can get on them.
Marriage certs can be ordered online from www.gro.gov.uk
Make sure to check back on previous page to ensure you get all i have found.
Michelle
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Marriage details of Margaret and William Stevens
IGI Individual Record FamilySearchâ„¢ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles Search Results | Download | Print
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WILLIAM STEVENS Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: MARGARET ANN JOHNSON OR BARHAM Family Marriage: 30 NOV 1851 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date
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Poss marriage for John and Hannah-Margaret Ann's parents
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JOHN JOHNSON Pedigree Male Family
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: HANNAH PRINCE Family Marriage: 02 JUN 1816 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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