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5 Apr 2009 00:07 |
David
Sorry nothing much coming up.I have seen the gentlemen poss siblings on the census records...and they are listed as Wigan birth.I have looked under the Wigan births on 2 sites and can see no baptism for them.Only McSorley's i can find for that surname are these mixed records below.I dont know if they are connected?
Marriage: 24 Feb 1839 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England James Joseph McSorley - Full Age Book Keeper Bachelor of Cross Hall St Diana Lund - Full Age Spinster of Church Alley Groom's Father: Matthew McSorley Bride's Father: George Parkinson Lund, Joiner Witness: Elijah Sarratt; Frances Yates Married by Banns by: Thos. Halton Curate Register: Marriages 1839, Page 41, Entry 81 Source: LDS Film 93290
Baptisms: 3 Jun 1844 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England James McSorley - Child of James Joseph McSorley & Diana Born: 3 May 1844 Abode: Highfield St Occupation: Book Keeper Baptised by: J G Headlam, Curate Register: Baptisms 1843 - 1844, Page 209, Entry 1668 Source: LDS Film 93884
Baptisms: 27 Dec 1885 All Souls, Bolton, Lancashire, England William James McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Eliza Jane Abode: 27 Draycott St Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: Wm Popplewell Register: Baptisms 1880 - 1897, Page 71, Entry 566 Source: LDS Film No.2149611
Baptisms: 5 Oct 1887 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Charles McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Elizabeth Jane Abode: 29 Lyon St. Occupation: Tailor Baptised by: C.Cronshaw Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1888, Page 169, Entry 1347 Source: LDS Film 2113024
Baptisms: 25 Oct 1891 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Albert McSorley - Son of William McSorley & Eliza Jane Abode: 305 Vernon St. Occupation: Tailor & Draper Baptised by: Percy Stott Curate Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1894, Page 156, Entry 1247 Source: LDS Film 2113024
Baptisms: 25 Oct 1891 St Matthew, Bolton, Lancashire, England Eliza Jane McSorley - Daughter of William McSorley & Eliza Jane Abode: 305 Vernon St. Occupation: Tailor & Draper Baptised by: Percy Stott Curate Register: Baptisms 1888 - 1894, Page 156, Entry 1248 Source: LDS Film 2113024
Do you live in the Lancashire area?if you do maybe an idea to search around at the parish records in Wigan by contacting the records office of Lancashire.They would advise where the records are kept.If you are lucky the marriage of 1836 may have Hugh's father's name? I also saw the marriage of 1794 and agree it could be a poss for parents of Hugh and siblings.
Sorry i haven't any records to help.
Mcsorley Name Meaning and History Scottish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Somhairle ‘son of Somhairle’, a Gaelicized form of an Old Norse personal name composed of the elements sumar ‘summer’ + liðr ‘seafarer’.
Although there are also many Irish Mcsorley's also.
Best of luck David.
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5 Apr 2009 00:09 |
Maureen
I am still looking for you...haven't forgotten you.
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5 Apr 2009 01:11 |
Tina
Hi Tina,will see what i can find....
First here is his marriage of 1901 Mary Ann Stanford 1901 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire View Record Herbert Wyles 1901 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Herbert Wyles Name: Herbert Wyles Year of Registration: 1901 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Peterborough County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 592 (click to see others on page)
You may already have this info?
here is the Parents of Herbert on the 1901 and look at who is visiting!Joseph's birthplace does seem to change census to census!
1901 England Census about Joseph Wyles Name: Joseph Wyles Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Gorleston, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 58 Mary Wyles 50 Stephen Wyles 15 Caroline Palmer 18 Mary A Stanford 26
1901 England Census about Mary Wyles Name: Mary Wyles Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Newark, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 58 Mary Wyles 50 Stephen Wyles 15 Caroline Palmer 18 Mary A Stanford 26
1901 England Census about Stephen Wyles Name: Stephen Wyles Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 58 Mary Wyles 50 Stephen Wyles 15 Caroline Palmer 18 Mary A Stanford 26
1901 England Census about Caroline Palmer Name: Caroline Palmer Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 58 Mary Wyles 50 Stephen Wyles 15 Caroline Palmer 18 Mary A Stanford 26
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5 Apr 2009 01:16 |
Tina
1901 of parents of Herbert continued....
1901 England Census about Mary A Stanford Name: Mary A Stanford Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Within St John The Baptist Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 58 Mary Wyles 50 Stephen Wyles 15 Caroline Palmer 18 Mary A Stanford 26 Joseph a Scavenger...this was a rubbish collector Caroline a Laundress Mary A a Tailoress
Address 28 Wellington Street
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5 Apr 2009 01:25 |
Tina
I know you have this 1 so wont break record up
1891 England Census about Herbert Wyles Name: Herbert Wyles Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Gender: Male Where born: Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Wyles 48 Mary Wyles 40 Herbert Wyles 15 John Wyles 13 Stephen Wyles 5
I am off to bed now and will continue when next on...very late and i'm tired.
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5 Apr 2009 09:46 |
Tina
1881 under Whyles
1881 England Census about Joseph Whyles Name: Joseph Whyles Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Whyles 38 Mary Whyles 30 Herbert Whyles 5 John Whyles 3
1881 England Census about Mary Whyles Name: Mary Whyles Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Whyles 38 Mary Whyles 30 Herbert Whyles 5 John Whyles 3
1881 England Census about Herbert Whyles Name: Herbert Whyles Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Whyles 38 Mary Whyles 30 Herbert Whyles 5 John Whyles 3
1881 England Census about John Whyles Name: John Whyles Age: 3 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878 Relation: Son Father's Name: Joseph Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Wellington Lane 3 Wymans Row Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Whyles 38 Mary Whyles 30 Herbert Whyles 5 John Whyles 3
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5 Apr 2009 10:04 |
Tina
Over to Mary Ann Stanford
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Mary Ann Stanford Name: Mary Ann Stanford Year of Registration: 1874 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: St Neots County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire Volume: 3b Page: 286 (click to see others on page)
You mentioned you had the 1891 so won't break it up
1891 England Census about Mary A Stanford Name: Mary A Stanford Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 39 Sarah Stanford 38 Mary A Stanford 16 John W Stanford 14 Florrie E Stanford 11 Alfred Stanford 9 Sarah A Stanford 8 George E Stanford 6 Sydney Stanford 5 James Stanford 1 Agnes L Stanford 4/12
Here is the 1881 for Mary and her parents William and Sarah
1881 England Census about William Stanford Name: William Stanford Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Railway Lab Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
1881 England Census about Sarah Stanford Name: Sarah Stanford Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
1881 England Census about Mary Stanford Name: Mary Stanford Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
1881 England Census about John Stanford Name: John Stanford Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
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5 Apr 2009 10:11 |
Tina
1881 Continued....
1881 England Census about Flory E. Stanford Name: Flory E. Stanford Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Peterboro, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
1881 England Census about Thomas Stanford Name: Thomas Stanford Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Brother Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Socon, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
1881 England Census about William Gordon Name: William Gordon Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Brother in Law Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdon, England Civil Parish: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address: Reform Street Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Blacksmith Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William Stanford 29 Sarah Stanford 28 Mary Stanford 6 John Stanford 4 Flory E. Stanford 1 Thomas Stanford 22 William Gordon 23
Poss marriage for William and Sarah
Sarah Jordan 1872 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire View Record William Stanford 1872 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about William Stanford Name: William Stanford Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: St Neots County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire Volume: 3b Page: 559 (click to see others on page)
Just checked the census for 1881 and the writing of the J in Jordan could have looked like Gordon.... Will look back and check after i finish William.
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5 Apr 2009 10:14 |
Tina
1871 for William living in same reg area as the 1872 marriage
1871 England Census about Caleb Stanford Name: Caleb Stanford Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about Mary Ann Stanford Name: Mary Ann Stanford Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Caleb Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about William Stanford Name: William Stanford Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Son Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about John Stanford Name: John Stanford Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about Thomas Stanford Name: Thomas Stanford Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Son Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
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5 Apr 2009 10:17 |
Tina
1871 for William Stanford-father of Mary Ann with his parents
1871 England Census about George Stanford Name: George Stanford Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Son Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about Samuel Stanford Name: Samuel Stanford Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Son Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Eaton Scoon, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
1871 England Census about Mary Ann Stanford Name: Mary Ann Stanford Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Caleb Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Little Barford, Bedfordshire, England Civil Parish: Little Barford Town: Little Barford County/Island: Bedfordshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Household Members: Name Age Caleb Stanford 39 Mary Ann Stanford 39 William Stanford 18 John Stanford 16 Thomas Stanford 11 George Stanford 8 Samuel Stanford 6 Mary Ann Stanford 4
Caleb a Ag Lab William and John Ag Labs
Address Hillfarm Cottage
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5 Apr 2009 10:30 |
Tina
Marriage of Caleb and Mary Ann
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record William Hill 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire View Record Mary Jordan 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire View Record Mary Ann Sawyer 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire View Record Caleb Stanford 1852 St Neots Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Caleb Stanford Name: Caleb Stanford Year of Registration: 1852 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: St Neots County: Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire Volume: 3b Page: 451 (click to see others on page) Well i am sure that must have helped and will do more soon on the other side.
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5 Apr 2009 11:44 |
Tina
Joseph is proving a tricky 1.I wonder if his mother married and they are under another name?So the name you mentioned he was born as,have you got the birth cert?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Joseph Whitehead Wyles Name: Joseph Whitehead Wyles Year of Registration: 1841 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Spalding County: Lincolnshire Volume: 14 Page: 509 (click to see others on page) If you have not got this cert i would advise you to get it.
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5 Apr 2009 12:18 |
Tina
Gosh this has taken some finding!!I think this maybe the marriage of Joseph and Mary Wyles his name spelt as Wiles
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record Mary Church 1875 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire View Record Joseph Wiles 1875 Peterborough Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Joseph Wiles Name: Joseph Wiles Year of Registration: 1875 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Peterborough County: Cambridgeshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire Volume: 3b Page: 393 (click to see others on page) Dates good for the birth of Herbert 1876.
Mary Church matches the details of Mary Wyles...both Peterborough and around the same birthyear...here is a 1861 of Mary
1861 England Census about Mary Church Name: Mary Church Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah F Gender: Female Where born: Newark, Northamptonshire, England Civil Parish: Peterborough Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Peterborough County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Peterborough Sub registration district: Peterborough ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 76 Household Members: Name Age John Church 30 Sarah F Church 36 Elizabeth Church 11 Mary Church 9 Sarah Church 8 Flora Church 6 John Church 3 Stephen Church 1
I couldnt see any other marriage that fitted under Wyles?So could be a good poss.
Make sure to check back on previous page as there is more info there.
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5 Apr 2009 12:46 |
Tina
Going back to Sarah Stanford Mary Ann's mother her maiden name was Jordan and not Gordon.The 1881 showed a William Gordon as brother in law to the Head but below here is the 1861 for Sarah and family and her brother William there also and surname is Jordan.So Gordon is a transcript error.
So here is the 1861 for Sarah Stanford nee Jordan
1861 England Census about James Jordan Name: James Jordan Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: N, Sollers Son Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about Sarah Jordan Name: Sarah Jordan Age: 46 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: James Gender: Female Where born: St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about Susan Jordan Name: Susan Jordan Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about Edward Jordan Name: Edward Jordan Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about Emma Jordan Name: Emma Jordan Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
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5 Apr 2009 12:50 |
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1861 continued for Sarah Stanford nee Jordan
1861 England Census about Louisa Jordan Name: Louisa Jordan Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about Sarah Jordan Name: Sarah Jordan Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Female Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about James Jordan Name: James Jordan Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
1861 England Census about William Jordan Name: William Jordan Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Son Father's Name: James Mother's Name: Sarah Gender: Male Where born: Eynesbury, Huntingdonshire, England Civil Parish: Eynesbury County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: St Neots Sub registration district: St Neots ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 115 Household Members: Name Age James Jordan 47 Sarah Jordan 46 Susan Jordan 18 Edward Jordan 15 Emma Jordan 12 Louisa Jordan 10 Sarah Jordan 8 James Jordan 5 William Jordan 2
James a Bricklayer Edward an Apprentice Shoemaker Emma and Louisa Lacemakers
Address Back Street
Well that's all i can do for now.Hope info helps and on the other side of the family also.
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5 Apr 2009 18:06 |
Maureen
Looks like i have found William under Whitten on the 1841 address is York Place as of the marriage cert
1841 England Census about Harriet Martin Name: Harriet Martin Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Female Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 40 William Whitten 15 Joseph Halifax 5
1841 England Census about William Whitten Name: William Whitten Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 40 William Whitten 15 Joseph Halifax 5
1841 England Census about Joseph Halifax Name: Joseph Halifax Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East Hundred: Ossulstone (Finsbury Division) County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
Occupation: View Image Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington East Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Harriet Martin 40 William Whitten 15 Joseph Halifax 5
Harriet can't read sorry could be Milliner?? William a Clerk i feel the age of William maybe incorrect as the 1841 was not always accurate and can be up to 5 years out.Also as he is a Clerk i would say he's prob nearer 20.
Address York Place and no number although it is the 1st house in the road so must be number 1
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5 Apr 2009 20:10 |
Thank you Michelle, this is certainly my William and the date must be wrong as he married just 2 years later and was over 21. Any luck with his father James? Your help is appreciated. Maureen
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5 Apr 2009 20:22 |
Maureen
This is prob not your James as a little young and also occupation doesnt fit however thought you might want it for later reference as this James was a Share Dealer same as William.
1861 England Census about James Witten Name: James Witten Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Islington, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Kensington St Mary Abbott Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Abbott Town: Kensington County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Kensington Sub registration district: Kensington Town ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 260 Household Members: Name Age James Witten 56 Elizabeth Witten 54 George Fredk Witten 28 John Parsons Witten 24 Kate Witten 23 Francis Witten 19 Anne Witten 17 Augustus Herbert Witten 15 Florence Margt Witten 13 Ellen Thomas 22 Anne Thomson 20
James a Share Dealer George a Collector John a Clerk in the Stock Exchange Francis a Clerk
Address 16 Garden Palace Villas
Maybe a connection??Interesting as its also Islington and occupations.
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5 Apr 2009 20:32 |
Maureen
Possible death of James?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about James Witten Name: James Witten Year of Registration: 1837 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Islington County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 3 Page: 134 (click to see others on page) Quite often they are not marked as dead when they are on early marriage certs.Really depended if the question was asked or not.
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6 Apr 2009 14:24 |
Michelle, No don't think this is my James but have a feeling he must fit in somewhere because he and a couple of his sons work as clerks in stock exchange, also I have a Herbert and Frederick too. Can you tell me what information I would gain from ordering his death certificate and could I get one for 1837? Many thanks Maureen
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