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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Mar 2009 23:46

Angie

1871 Continued...

1871 England Census
about Sarah A Allcock
Name: Sarah A Allcock
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton Christchurch
Town: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 50
Ann Allcock 49
James Allcock 20
George C Allcock 17
Thomas Allcock 16
Sarah A Allcock 15
William J Allcock 10
Fanny P Allcock 8
Ralph P Allcock 5

1871 England Census
about William J Allcock
Name: William J Allcock
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton Christchurch
Town: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 50
Ann Allcock 49
James Allcock 20
George C Allcock 17
Thomas Allcock 16
Sarah A Allcock 15
William J Allcock 10
Fanny P Allcock 8
Ralph P Allcock 5

1871 England Census
about Fanny P Allcock
Name: Fanny P Allcock
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton Christchurch
Town: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 50
Ann Allcock 49
James Allcock 20
George C Allcock 17
Thomas Allcock 16
Sarah A Allcock 15
William J Allcock 10
Fanny P Allcock 8
Ralph P Allcock 5

1871 England Census
about Ralph P Allcock
Name: Ralph P Allcock
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Barnton, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton Christchurch
Town: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 149
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 50
Ann Allcock 49
James Allcock 20
George C Allcock 17
Thomas Allcock 16
Sarah A Allcock 15
William J Allcock 10
Fanny P Allcock 8
Ralph P Allcock 5

George and Thomas Watermen
George son- a Labourer

Address Leigh Brow











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 14 Mar 2009 23:59

Angie

1851 Census

1851 England Census
about George Allcock
Name: George Allcock
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartford, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about Ann Allcock
Name: Ann Allcock
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Croaton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about James Allcock
Name: James Allcock
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartford, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about Mary Allcock
Name: Mary Allcock
Age: 1 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Barnton, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about Fanny Pickering
Name: Fanny Pickering
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Norrley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

Continue....












***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:03

Angie

1851 Continued....

1851 England Census
about Fanny Pickering
Name: Fanny Pickering
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Norrley, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about Henry Pickering
Name: Henry Pickering
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Castle, Cheshire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about Mary Fairhurst
Name: Mary Fairhurst
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

1851 England Census
about James Fairhurst
Name: James Fairhurst
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Barnton
Ecclesiastical parish: Barnton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Northwich
Sub registration district: Weaverham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
George Allcock 31
Ann Allcock 30
James Allcock 5
Mary Allcock 1 Mo
Fanny Pickering 41
Henry Pickering 9
Mary Fairhurst 41
James Fairhurst 20

George a Boatman and Bargeman
Fanny and Mary are Annuitant
James a Ironmonger

Address Leigh Brow












***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:12

Angie

Here is the marriage and as i had guessed from when i 1st saw the Pickering surname!!

George Allcock 1845 Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire


Ann Pickering 1845 Liverpool (1837-1934) Lancashire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about George Allcock
Name: George Allcock
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Liverpool (1837-1934)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 20
Page: 231 (click to see others on page)


Hope that has helped you Angie.





Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2009 00:16

Hi
I hope you can help, as I am trying to find the names of the parents of William Nicholas b 1848 sussex, I have asked others to look for him in 1851 with no luck, he is listed in 1881 with a wrong transcription of name (Nicholos) his birthplace is listed as NK Sussex, I am not sure what this means, and then I have been unable to trace him back.
I hope you can help.
Many Thanks
Tina

angie2405

angie2405 Report 15 Mar 2009 00:31

Hi Michelle

Flippin eck! That was quick Michelle - do you never sleep lol :) Thank you very much tho for all the details - its brilliant !

Well - I never even looked at that marriage - I just expected them to have married in Cheshire !

Its weird - the 1851 census had James aged 5 and Mary aged 1mnth
yet ............ the 1861 census has James aged 10 and Mary aged 10

I'm confused ?!?!

Angie

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:35

Tina

Hi Tina!the 1891 Census for William and his wife lists his birthplace as Barcombe Sussex.The 1881 lists NK Sussex which stands for not known in Sussex.Things were very different in those days and people were not always aware of where they were born especially if they moved alot.
I won't post the whole census as i know you are interested on who his parents were but here it does show the district in Sussex

1891 England Census
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Enfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdelene
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Enfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Nicholas 42
Harriet Nicholas 41
William George Nicholas 15
Albert Ephraim Nicholas 13
Alice Claria Nicholas 11
Barbara Harriet Nicholas 10
Mabel Maria Nicholas 6
Beatrice Ruth Nicholas 4
Alfred Wilton Nicholas 1

He is listed as a Railway Porter


The 1871 lists William as a Grandson in the house of George Nicholas

1871 England Census
about George Nicholas
Name: George Nicholas
Age: 71
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

1871 England Census
about Mercy Short
Name: Mercy Short
[Mercy Nicholas]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

1871 England Census
about Barbara Browning
Name: Barbara Browning
[Barbara Nicholas]
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

1871 England Census
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

Continue.....














Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2009 00:44

Thanks, so george is his grandfather, not father then, or is he both!
Tina

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:45

Tina

1871 continued....

1871 England Census
about Walter Short
Name: Walter Short
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hove, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

1871 England Census
about Wille Short
Name: Wille Short
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hove, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

1871 England Census
about Betsey Nicholas
Name: Betsey Nicholas
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 71
Mercy Short 35
Barbara Browning 33
William Nicholas 23
Walter Short 10
Wille Short 2
Betsey Nicholas 20

George a Ag Lab and a Widower
Mercy a Wife of a Labourer in Gas Works
Barbara a Wife of a Master Baker
William a Porter on a Railway
Betsy a Gen Servant














***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:46

Tina

I am working back and it looks at mo he is his Grandfather.Will look now at the 1861-51.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 00:52

Tina

1861

1861 England Census
about George Nicholas
Name: George Nicholas
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 61
Frances Nicholas 65
William Nicholas 14
George Parsons 10

1861 England Census
about Frances Nicholas
Name: Frances Nicholas
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: St Johns Lewes, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 61
Frances Nicholas 65
William Nicholas 14
George Parsons 10

1861 England Census
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 61
Frances Nicholas 65
William Nicholas 14
George Parsons 10

1861 England Census
about George Parsons
Name: George Parsons
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Chailey
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Nicholas 61
Frances Nicholas 65
William Nicholas 14
George Parsons 10

George a Ag Lab
William a Ag Lab

Address Near the Claffers













Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2009 00:57

Thanks for all that, it would be why I couldnt find him with his parents, if he is always with his grandfather, Thanks for all your help at this late hour!
Tina

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 01:04

TIna

Here is the 1851 again listed as Grandson

1851 England Census
about Geo Nicholas
Name: Geo Nicholas
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Francis
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Ditchling
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Nicholas 53
Francis Nicholas 56
William Nicholas 4

1851 England Census
about Francis Nicholas
Name: Francis Nicholas
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Geo
Gender: Female
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Ditchling
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Nicholas 53
Francis Nicholas 56
William Nicholas 4

1851 England Census
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Barcombe, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Barcombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lewes
Sub registration district: Ditchling
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Nicholas 53
Francis Nicholas 56
William Nicholas 4

George a Ag Lab


Poss marriage to Harriet

William Nicholas 1875 Edmonton Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex

Harriet Robinson 1875 Edmonton Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about William Nicholas
Name: William Nicholas
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Edmonton
County: Essex, Hertfordshire, Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 191 (click to see others on page)

If no evidence of who father is this marriage record should have some answers.Just checking some other resources to see what i can find.Looks at the moment though that 1 of George and Frances's children were the father to William or possible that 1 of their daughter's had William out of wedlock?Hence why he was with Grandparents.Will look.Getting late so may have to get back to this later when ive had some zzzzz!!














Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2009 01:06

Well thank you, the mystery continues, I thank you for all your help, and may get some sleep myself!
Tina

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 01:12

Tina

Im feeling zzzz here i will take a look again when next on and try and work out who are the parents.

Michelle

rubys

rubys Report 15 Mar 2009 05:05

thank you michelle i will get cert.

Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2009 10:54

Thanks for your help last night!
on looking at the documents I have this morning, I have found I have the wedding certificate, William is listed with father George (I am guessing grandfather!) and proffesion labourer, which would fit with all the census, I think I will have to try to find a birth certificate if I am going to find out his parents. and in the meantime will trace all of george and harriets children to see if I can find a suspect.
Tina

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 11:07

Angie

Looking at the birth records and again at the image i would say James is 10 on the 1861

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about James Allcock
Name: James Allcock
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 238 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Allcock
Name: Mary Allcock
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 239 (click to see others on page)

Although i would say the 2nd one is your Mary.As their is a Mary J Allcock on the census records for 1851 birthyear in Northwich.

Oh look we have a 1845 birth record too!!!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Allcock
Name: Mary Allcock
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Northwich
County: Cheshire
Volume: 19
Page: 184 (click to see others on page)

Although looking at the 1851 census records James is def listed as 5 years old and Mary as 1 month old!!So im confused now too!!!!


Looking at future census records after 1871 i would say their is a good chance that the 1873 death for James is your James.

So only way really to solve this 1 is to check the records and get the birth certs for 1851 to see if Mary and James were twins or whether Mary is the 1846 birth.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 15 Mar 2009 11:35

Tina

Incase you haven't got this...here is the marriage of George and Frances

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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GEORGE NICHOLAS Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: FRANCES ADDISON Family
Marriage: 09 FEB 1822 Barcombe, Sussex, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

and Georges Christening

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GEORGE NICHOLAS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 14 APR 1799 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Siblings for George

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ELIZABETH NICHOLAS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 DEC 1801 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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JAMES NICHOLAS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 17 FEB 1805 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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JOHN NICHOLAS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 JAN 1785 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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LUCY NICHOLAS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 FEB 1794 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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WILLIAM NICHOLAS Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 JUN 1788 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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SARAH NICHOLAS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 03 APR 1796 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: LUCY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

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MARY ANN NICHOLAS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 12 FEB 1792 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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JENNY NICHOLAS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 APR 1786 Barcombe, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: RALPH NICHOLAS Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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