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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about William Heath
Name: William Heath
Year of Registration: 1912
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: McGuire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1343 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Susannah Heath
Name: Susannah Heath
Year of Registration: 1914
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: McGuire
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 1460 (click to see others on page)

And if you remember there was a death showing in 1915 Sunderland for a Susannah Heath born c1914

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Susannah Heath
Name: Susannah Heath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1914
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 1
District: Sunderland
County: Durham, Tyne and Wear
Volume: 10a
Page: 664 (click to see others on page)

Hi Michelle.

Thankyou very much fore your time.




libra.

Michelle re Panter family, previous 1881 census has George as being born Hanslope Bucks in 1869. He married in 1891 and had a son William Thomas in 1892 I'm sorry not to be more helpful.

Wendy

Wendy

Thanks for that info did the trick!Here the family is on the 1901 mistranscribed

1901 England Census
about George Pauler
Name: George Pauler
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

1901 England Census
about Annie Pauler
Name: Annie Pauler
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George
Gender: Female
Where born: Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

1901 England Census
about William T Pauler
Name: William T Pauler
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Stony Stratford, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: West Stony Stratford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Giles and St Mary Magdalene
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Pauler 31
George Pauler 32
William T Pauler 8

George a Carpenter and Joiner

Address Looks like 24 York Road

Michelle your a star thank yo so much

Wendy

Wendy

I would say he married Annie Parkes

1891 England Census
about Annie Parker
Name: Annie Parker
[Annie Parkes]
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stantonbury, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Calverton
Ecclesiastical parish: Wolverton St Mary
Town: Stony Stratford
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Potterspury
Sub registration district: Potterspury
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Whichcote 73
Louisa D Whichcote 57
Louisa M Whichcote 22
George Whichcote 20
Fanny Mannings 57
Ellen Eglington 42
Annie Parker 21
Henrietta Read 22
Emily Hegace 19

Michelle

1861 please

William Sloper (father) age ?
Daughter
Sarah Jane Sloper b 1852/3
Wiltshire / hampshire

not much i know

thanks
Alan

Alan

Was info re father from a marriage cert?If so what was his occupation and when and where was the marriage.Also how accurate is birthyear of Sarah?

***Michelle***

Hi Michelle

Marriage cert date of marriage 1/7/1871
age of Sarah 18
Father occ Carter
ps Sarah Jane also used the 1st name Sophia
why i do not know yet

Alan

Alan

Been hard at work on yours and with flu so there is dedication for you!!I will show you what i have found and see what you think and also ask you whether you know if this is Sarah and James on the 1881?Think the age for Sarah is out slightly and should be around 1855 i think she was younger than him when they married and she may have said she was older.Interesting is the 1st child is born in Winchester-area where marriage of 1871 was.

1881 England Census
about James Knight
Name: James Knight
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Sarah Knight
Name: Sarah Knight
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about John J. Knight
Name: John J. Knight
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Edward C. Knight
Name: Edward C. Knight
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hambledon, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about Frank A. Knight
Name: Frank A. Knight
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Westbourne, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

1881 England Census
about John Hall
Name: John Hall
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Petersfield, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Westbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: Aldsworth
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Ag Lab

Registration district: Westbourne
Sub registration district: Westbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hall 21
Edward C. Knight 5
Frank A. Knight
James Knight 29
John J. Knight 8
Sarah Knight 22

On next thread will show you the 1871 of which i wonder is this Sarah before marriage?

Alan

here is the poss 1871 i have found in same area as marriage was and since the marriage was 3 months or so after this could well be a poss.Only 1 i could see that fits really.Sarah v.young but they did marry v.young in those days and not uncommon at 16.

1871 England Census
about William Sloper
Name: William Sloper
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Colanbome, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Sarah Sloper
Name: Sarah Sloper
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Wickham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Sarah J Sloper
Name: Sarah J Sloper
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Hayle
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

1871 England Census
about Alois Falor
Name: Alois Falor
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Niece
Where born: Burant
Civil Parish: Owslebury
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Winchester
Sub registration district: Twyford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Household Members: Name Age
Alois Falor 3
Sarah Sloper 54
Sarah J Sloper 16
William Sloper 52

William occupation was just dittoed as Ag Lab and a Carter does work on a farm?

Address looks like Marwell?not v.clear.


Ok so only possible at the moment.On the marriage cert what was Sophia's address at marriage?and what was her age listed as?Also James please can i have info of him from the marriage cert so i can look at other possibles after marriage.

***Michelle***

Michelle!!!!!!
What a Diamond you are.
Yes this is them.
Had the 1881 stuff
But not the 1871
1861 i will ask another time

Hope you feel better

Thankyou
Alan

Michelle

Sarah Jane was 18 spinster
address marwell (something) farm
James was 23 batchelor, labourer
address difficult to make out
james father was john (deceased)

Alan

Hi Michelle sorry your not well.
Going to send for Ellen Smiths death certificate for Tamworth 1917 as age matches .wondered if you have any record look up for Arley around 1923 to see if any Smiths there or for Polesworth .I know its a lot to ask but got a feeling other realatives are there .Also anything on Mary and Herbert Flowers .
Thanks Mags

Alan

Yep i have the right family on the 1871!!!As address is Marwell on there and also looks like a farm as alot of Ag Lab living there and around.


***Michelle***

Hi Michelle
With new info from your good self
Marriage of Willaim Sloper & Sarah Thorn on igi 25/12/1839

Thanks again
Alan

Alan

Poss Christening Record for Sarah

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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SARAH JANE Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 27 MAY 1855 Southwick, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM SLOPER Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Thanks Michelle
Just found that as well.

Alan

HI MICHELLE,
I AM LOOKING FOR MY NANS RECORDS ( ELIZABETH SMITH), I KNOW SHE WAS BORN 19 OR 20th FEB I THINK 1902.
SHE LIVED ALL HER LIFE IN CUSTOM HOUSE LONDON. I ALSO KNOW SHE HAD TWIN BROTHERS JOCK AND GEORGE ( JOCK NOT BEING HIS REAL NAME) WHO WERE BOTH YOUNGER THAN HER.
I HAVE PURCHASED MANY CERTS BUT WITH NO LUCK. THE LAST ONE SHOULD ARRIVE THIS WEEKEND
I FOUND CERTS FOR TWIN BROTHERS JOHN AND GEORGE, WITH FATHER WILLIAM AMOS SMITH AND MOTHER JESSIE MANN.
BECAUSE OF BEING AFTER THE 1901 CENCUS HOW CAN I CARRY THIS ANLONG IF THE CERT THIS WEEKEND IS NOT THE RIGHT ONE.
I WILL BE GOING OUT SHORTLY BUT WILL BE BACK TOMORROW NIGHT IN CASE YOU DO NOT GET A REPLY. ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREAT AS I HAVE GOT TO THE END OF THE ROAD I THINK.
DUSTY

Dusty

Sadly Smith surname is always a tricky 1.1 thing i was unclear of from your message-was the John and George you found def the right 1's?Cos if they are here is the parents marriage which was in Hackney district

Jessie Mann 1901 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex
View Record

William Amos Smith 1901 Hackney Greater London, London, Middlesex

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Jessie Mann
Name: Jessie Mann
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 785 (click to see others on page)

Have you tried for this 1?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Elizabeth Smith
Name: Elizabeth Smith
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Hackney
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 530 (click to see others on page)

If you are sure of the parents being William and Jessie might be worth getting GRO to do a search against those parents names for Elizabeth born around 1902.They do sometimes do this.Least then you will know whether these parents are the right 1's.Also applying for your Nans marriage cert would give her father's name so that's another option.

***Michelle***