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Have been looking.No luck so far.I wondered if they had died earlier??Have you thought about getting the marriage cert?it may show if father was deceased.

Michelle

Hi Michelle, this is such a kind offer! I wonder if you can help my long standing brick wall - I have anecdotal evidence to suggest that my gt grandfather THOMAS TROKE, his wife JANE TROKE and children LUCY CAROLINE (or Caroline Lucy) MARY ELLEN and GEORGE THOMAS went to Buenos Aires some time between 1871 and 1883 when another child arrived in Paris. I do believe that they came back to the UK between South America and France but this is 3rd hand so can't be sure about any of this. Is there any way of finding evidence for these journeys?
regards Jayne

Jayne

Hi Jayne...have i worked on this surname for you before?I do remember the Troke surname?I will take a look...depends on when they arrived i have access to incoming from 1878-1960.Can i have their birthyears and places of birth please.

Michelle

Hi Michelle, yes its possible that I have asked you about this family before - there are so many mysteries about them that I explore each and every possibility over and over again! They were THOMAS TROKE born in Exeter c. 1835 His wife JANE possibly born about 1836/7 OR c1846 in Liverpool (depends on which census you look at!)
Children -
CAROLINE LUCY b 1866 (or Lucy Caroline as on marriage cert) born Oswestry, Salop
MARY ELLEN b. 1868 Welshpool Montgomeryshire Wales
GEORGE THOMAS b. 1869/70 also Welshpool
They had another child in Paris in 1883, is there any way to know when they went there?
Jayne

Hi Jayne

If they came in from France they will not be on the Incoming lists i have access to. These were only for outside European waters..ie Aus,USA or in your case Buenos Aires.So shame they didn't come direct from there.

Only Troke's showing coming from Buenos Aires were listed as English and arrived 1901 and were Thomas Troke aged 37 and Ellen Troke aged 31 and Selene Troke aged 7 and Ernest aged 5...all listed as English.They all arrived 1901 in Southampton

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Thomas Troke
Name: Thomas Troke
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 37
Port of Departure: River Plate, South America
Arrival Date: 11 Aug 1901
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Buenos Aires, Montevideo, Rio de Janeiro, Bahia, Pernambuco, Lisbon, Vigo
Ship Name: Thames
Search Ship Database: View the 'Thames' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Royal Mail Steam Packet Company Ltd
Official Number: 98056

Would they link to your family at all?Maybe you had other Troke's that went to Buenos Aires as well?

Thank you very much Michelle, I don't know of any other Trokes going to South America but then I can't imagine why mine should have gone either. Third-hand anecdotal evidence says to escape debt, but it seems and awful long way to go for that, it may well have been sailing ships then. This just adds a another tantalising mystery. This family will have me in an early grave from frustration!!!
thanks again for your help

rapidly going grey Jayne

Michelle

Can you help with this one ? !

I have
Marriage-30 August 1825 at St Lukes Old Street Finsbury London
Elisha BROWNJOHN
Sarah STANDING

I cannot find them in the 1841 or 1851 census' on FMP

I think Elisha belongs in my tree but the only bapt I have is for one in 1794 in Kingsclere Hants-is it the same one ?

Brownjohn is often reduced to Brown-just to make things harder !!

Hi Michelle
Please would you look up for me Eleanor Smith, my gt gt gt grandmother born Parshean, Sussex, she is on 1851 living Battle, Sussex with four other children and Francis Smith my gt gt grandfather, no husband, that is all I know.
Also, please look up Charlotte Westall who married Francis Smith, on 1901 census - she was born Sonning, Oxfordshire 1824c, I have her on the other censuses.
Thank you,
Sandra

Elizabeth

here is the marriage you mentioned

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
about Elisha Brownjohn
Name: Elisha Brownjohn
Spouse: Sarah Standing
Marriage Date: 1825
Parish: St Luke Old Street

Noticed this possible death?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Elisha Brownjohn
Name: Elisha Brownjohn
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newbury
County: Berkshire, Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 143 (click to see others on page)

ELISHA BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 25 APR 1794 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: AMOS BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date

Siblings although 1 has a different mother?Maybe that Amos remarried and Mary died?Or the Amos with wife Hannah is a different Amos?

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MARY BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 19 APR 1788 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: AMOS BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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HANNAH BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 23 MAY 1802 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: AMOS BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: HANNAH KEWELL


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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AMOS BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 MAY 1790 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: AMOS BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: MARY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Marriage of parents

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AMOS BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY BATHE Family
Marriage: 02 FEB 1788 Kingsclere, Hampshire, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Will search census now 1841-51

Elizabeth

Still searching the census records.Found possibel children for the couple..thought this might help in my search

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SARAH ANN BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 27 OCT 1826

Christening: 31 JAN 1827 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ELISHA BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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SELINA MARY BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 12 JUN 1828

Christening: 31 AUG 1828 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ELISHA BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

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ELISHA HENRY BROWNJOHN Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth: 12 FEB 1830

Christening: 30 MAY 1830 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: ELISHA BROWNJOHN Family
Mother: SARAH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Elizabeth

Think i can see the problem with the 1841 parts of St Lukes Middlesex are missing...and Finsbury.So this means they were either lost or damaged.So this is the reason i believe we are not seeing them on the 1841.


Will search the 1851 now.

Elizabeth

A poss for Sarah Ann daughter on the 1861

1861 England Census
about Sarah A Brownjohn
Name: Sarah A Brownjohn
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: St Lukes, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration district: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Scott 32
Annie Scott 4
James G Scott 3
Sarah A Brownjohn 34

Sarah was the family housekeeper and unmarried

poss death of Selina??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Selina Brownjohn
Name: Selina Brownjohn
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 130 (click to see others on page)

Still searching census...mystery nothing on the 1851 thus far.I understand why the problem with the 1841 cos of the pieces missing.

Michelle

Elizabeth

Poss for Sarah Ann

1881 England Census
about Sarah Ann Brownjohn
Name: Sarah Ann Brownjohn
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Female
Where born: London Hoxton, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Newbury
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street address: 1 "Newbury Union Workhouse" Newtown Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Charwoman

Registration district: Newbury
Sub-registration district: Newbury
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse Newbury Berk
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Green 41
Edward Francis Green 13
Stephen Griffin 45
Lucy Pibworth 10
James Pibworth 8
Charlotte Bridgeman 71
George White 65
Thomas Bridgeman 76
Thomas Andrews 76
Sarah Ann Huntley 26
Alice Huntley 5
John Huntley 3
Richard Cox 61
Mary Ann Brooks 16
Thomas Nalder 73
Ann Pearce 21
William Alexander Pearce
John Fidler 12
Abraham Pocock 40
Alice Cook 12
George Sims 69
John Smith 73
James Heath 53
John Harris 74
Charles Ballard 28
David Ballard 21
Emma Ballard 21
Frederick Chapman 41
Hannah Chapman 41
James Chapman 12
William Chapman 10
Walter Chapman 8
Joseph Chapman 5
Jane Chapman 1
David Hill 73
Mary Marriner 13
Joseph Marriner 11
Alice Smallbone 23
Sarah Ann Brown 25
John Brown 9
Annie Brown 4
Eliza Thorn 84
James Fisher 83
Ann Mills 70
William Silvey 83
John Wakefield 36
George Tidbury 80
Miriam Crocker 48
William Knapp 71
Alexander Hayes 61
William Machin 71
John Day 74
Frederick Kimber 12
Annie Kimber 11
Alice Kimber 9
Jane Watts 44
Alice Watts 8
Edward Palmer 13
Kate Blanchard 10
James Blanchard 7
Lucy Watts 23
Albert Edward Watts 1
Charles Harris 50
John Exall 78
Joseph Jarvis 60
Rose Paddick 22
Albert Paddick
Emily Beatrice Perris 12
Mary Ann Hopkins 13
George Hopkins 9
Kate Hopkins 5
Artemesia Knowles 57
Charles Armsworth 71
William Jacobs 76
Daniel Robbins 72
Louisa Johnson 35
Emily Johnson 10
Alfred Johnson 8
George Johnson 5
Albert Johnson 4
Rose Johnson 1
James Butler 73
William Everett 83
John Watson Shaw 78
Sarah Ann Brownjohn 55
George Holt 73
Charles Smith 69
Sarah Hazell 59
Jane Cook 79
Joseph Woof 50
Ann Major 74
Henry Woodhouse 73
Lucy Seward 62
Robert Smith 81
John Bridgeman 71
Ada Martha Haines 7
John Hancock 67
Isaac Ferris 47
Harriet Winterbourne 25
William Burge 19
Ann Northway 73
Edward Haines 15
Elizabeth Bennett 30
Florence Bennett 8
Frances Ann Bennett 3
William Henry Bennett
Henry Wilmot 75
William Hicks 40
Dennis Adams 66
John Smailes 73
Stephen Wyld 40
Rebecca Wyld 39
Stephen Wyld 5
Harry Wyld 2
Emily Wyld
Alfred Bird 10
John Beenham 79
Robert Brown 69
Harriet Brown 73
Amelia Harris 89

Sarah Ann is unmarried could be the same one from the 1861 i found.

She went on to die this 1 in same area

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Sarah Ann Brownjohn
Name: Sarah Ann Brownjohn
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 63
District: Newbury
County: Berkshire, Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 135 (click to see others on page)

Makes you think there must have been links in this area for her to live there??

Sandra

Think the age on the 1841 is more correct...as the eldest child on the 1851 was only 10 years younger than her!So the 1841 as her birthyear as 1791.

1841 England Census
about Eleanor Smith
Name: Eleanor Smith
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about George F Smith
Name: George F Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about Edgar Smith
Name: Edgar Smith
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about Francis Smith
Name: Francis Smith
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about James J Smith
Name: James J Smith
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about Mary A Hyland
Name: Mary A Hyland
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

1841 England Census
about Henry E Hyland
Name: Henry E Hyland
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Male
Where born: Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Hundred: Baldslow
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 50
George F Smith 25
Edgar Smith 20
Francis Smith 15
James J Smith 11
Mary A Hyland 25
Henry E Hyland 5

George a Gardener
Edgar a Cabinet Maker
Francis and Mary A look like Milliners

No address listed

Sandra

1851 you mentioned...funny thing is i live about 7 miles from Battle!!i live in Hastings.

1851 England Census
about Eleanor Smith
Name: Eleanor Smith
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Parshean, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

1851 England Census
about Edna Smith
Name: Edna Smith
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Where born: Calafield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

1851 England Census
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

1851 England Census
about Frances H Smith
Name: Frances H Smith
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Male
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

1851 England Census
about Mary Ann Hyland
Name: Mary Ann Hyland
[Mary Ann Smith]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eleanor
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

1851 England Census
about Henry E Hyland
Name: Henry E Hyland
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

Continue....

Sandra

1851 Continued...

1851 England Census
about Jonhand Smith
Name: Jonhand Smith
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Colsfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
Town: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Bexhill
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Smith 42
Edna Smith 32
Charlotte Smith 25
Frances H Smith 25
Mary Ann Hyland 38
Henry E Hyland 15
Jonhand Smith 16

Eleanor is listed as a Widow
Edna is actually Edgar!!and still a Cabinet Maker
Charlotte a Draper and a Assitant
Francis a Milliner
Mary Ann a Widow and a Milliner

Sandra

The 1861 sees Mary Ann Hyland widowed daughter of Eleanor as head of house...so either Eleanor has died or remarried?
Again birthyears changing!!


1861 England Census
about Mary A Hyland
Name: Mary A Hyland
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Hyland 52
Edgar Smith 42
Charlotte Smith 36
Louisa Waterman 22
William Humphery 23

1861 England Census
about Edgar Smith
Name: Edgar Smith
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Catsfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Hyland 52
Edgar Smith 42
Charlotte Smith 36
Louisa Waterman 22
William Humphery 23

1861 England Census
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Hyland 52
Edgar Smith 42
Charlotte Smith 36
Louisa Waterman 22
William Humphery 23

1861 England Census
about Louisa Waterman
Name: Louisa Waterman
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: St Leonards, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Hyland 52
Edgar Smith 42
Charlotte Smith 36
Louisa Waterman 22
William Humphery 23

1861 England Census
about William Humphery
Name: William Humphery
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Uckfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Hastings St Mary Magdalen
Ecclesiastical parish: Chichester
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Hyland 52
Edgar Smith 42
Charlotte Smith 36
Louisa Waterman 22
William Humphery 23

Mary a Dressmaker and Milliner
Edgar a Cabinet Maker
Charlotte a Draper's Assistant
William a Solictor's Clerk

Address 28 London Road...this is in St Leonards and they are old properties there mainly now flats which were i expect houses original.A long road which leads down to the seafront.....Your lucky here!!i live in Hastings!

Sandra

1871 for Mary Ann

1871 England Census
about Mary Ann Hyland
Name: Mary Ann Hyland
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Hyland 60
Ruth Morris 23
Charlotte Cruttenden 24

1871 England Census
about Ruth Morris
Name: Ruth Morris
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ashburnham, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Hyland 60
Ruth Morris 23
Charlotte Cruttenden 24

1871 England Census
about Charlotte Cruttenden
Name: Charlotte Cruttenden
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hastings
Sub-registration district: St Mary in the Castle
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Hyland 60
Ruth Morris 23
Charlotte Cruttenden 24

Mary a Milliner


Address 28 London Road...same address as 1861

Sandra

1881 for Mary and Charlotte there also

1881 England Census
about Charlotte Smith
Name: Charlotte Smith
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper Servant

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 56
Mary A. Hyland 72
Emily James 48
Charlotte Cruttenden 34
Cecil R. Blaker 28


1881 England Census
about Mary A. Hyland
Name: Mary A. Hyland
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Battle, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: High St
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Dressmaker

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 56
Mary A. Hyland 72
Emily James 48
Charlotte Cruttenden 34
Cecil R. Blaker 28

1881 England Census
about Emily James
Name: Emily James
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Living Derived From Houses

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 56
Mary A. Hyland 72
Emily James 48
Charlotte Cruttenden 34
Cecil R. Blaker 28

1881 England Census
about Charlotte Cruttenden
Name: Charlotte Cruttenden
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: St Leonards, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Domes Servant

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 56
Mary A. Hyland 72
Emily James 48
Charlotte Cruttenden 34
Cecil R. Blaker 28

1881 England Census
about Cecil R. Blaker
Name: Cecil R. Blaker
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Battle
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: High St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Curate Of Battle

Registration district: Battle
Sub-registration district: Battle
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 56
Mary A. Hyland 72
Emily James 48
Charlotte Cruttenden 34
Cecil R. Blaker 28

Sandra

Death of Mary Ann

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Mary Ann Hyland
Name: Mary Ann Hyland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 72
District: Battle
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 35 (click to see others on page)