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***Michelle***
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30 Apr 2009 22:02 |
Maurice
1871 Census
1871 England Census about Joseph Turnock Name: Joseph Turnock Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Turnock 69 Mary Turnock 67
1871 England Census about Mary Turnock Name: Mary Turnock Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Joseph Gender: Female Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton St George County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Turnock 69 Mary Turnock 67
Joseph a Colliey Labourer
Address same as 1861...well looks the same
Dale House Fold?looks like a F but is def Dale House ...F?old
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Valerie
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1 May 2009 00:22 |
hi michelle, sorry to keep bothering you as i no your busy but did you manage to find 1871 census for wolfe st toxteth park liverpool, for either mary mccann 22 or eugene devetter 25, thanx val
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***Michelle***
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1 May 2009 01:10 |
Val
When i last looked a few days ago no i could not see them.I have not been on alot the past few days cos of work and its my son's birthday today..May 1st.
I will take a look again as i had a huge amount on my mind when i last looked starting my new job which is a demanding job and my mind is clearer now and back to normal!!i will take a look this eve...later today.
Sorry i have not been very reliable i am normally!
Michelle
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Maurice
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1 May 2009 06:59 |
Hi Michelle. I am truly amazed i would never have found Samuel and Maria Williams in 1881 in a million years. Thank you very much it is appreciated. Thanks Maurice.
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1 May 2009 12:27 |
HI MICHELLE, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL INFO GIVEN YOU ARE BRILLIANT,I WILL ORDER A BIRTH CERT FOR CHARLES AND ELLEN TO FIND FATHERS NAMES AND VERY LIKELY BE ASKING YOU FOR MORE HELP THANK YOU SO MUCH AND BEST WISHES IRENE
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1 May 2009 18:15 |
Hi Michelle Can you please have a look on the 1871 census for: Frederick William Davis b 1864 Clerkenwell, London Father George Wade b c1808 St Luke, London occupation Pewterer Journeyman (he might be dead) Mother Sarah Wade b c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn (she remarried and may be under Sarah Baird) Sister Emma b 1861 Clerkenwell other siblings Richard 1845 Susan 1847 Robert 1849 Sarah 1853 All born Clerkenwell
Thanks very much
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Kathleen
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4 May 2009 19:33 |
Thanks Michelle for the 1851/1861 census details for Josepth Turnock's family. Did you have any luck with the other Turnock? Mary Turnock c1817 Poynton, married to Levi Norbury c1816 Liverpool also on the 1851/1861 census. I know you are busy with the new job and your family, I don't know where you find the time to answer all your mail and do the look ups. I suspect you are really Wonder Woman pretending to be Michelle!! I will have patience. Regards Kathleen
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Beverley
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4 May 2009 20:05 |
Hi Michelle I wonder if you could help track my Great Grandfather. His name is Antonio Borgna lived and married in Lambeth, London in 1896 -bride Ruth Loades. Sadly she died bearing her second child Frank. I know that my grandmother Teresa moved to live with her grandparents in 1899 to Great Yarmouth. We understand that Antonio left the UK in 1908 to go to USA and we find a record of him in Ohio ( I think) in 1920. He was born in Italy in 1874, but would like to know where he came from, when he arrived, and when he left to go to America.
Can you help?
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***Michelle***
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4 May 2009 20:35 |
Kath
Thanks for your kind words.I wish i was Superwoman!!Sorry i had forgotten the 1851-61 for Mary...here is it
1851 England Census about Levi Norbury Name: Levi Norbury Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Nortwry, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Levi Norbury 35 Mary Norbury 34
1851 England Census about Mary Norbury Name: Mary Norbury Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Levi Gender: Female Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Levi Norbury 35 Mary Norbury 34
Levi looks like Tile Maker..looks like Managing before tile maker?
Address Dale House Fold
1861 Census
1861 England Census about Lin Norbury Name: Lin Norbury Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
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Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Lin Norbury 45 Mary Norbury 43 Ann Bramall 82
1861 England Census about Mary Norbury Name: Mary Norbury Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Lin Gender: Female Where born: Worth, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Worth Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Lin Norbury 45 Mary Norbury 43 Ann Bramall 82
1861 England Census about Ann Bramall Name: Ann Bramall Age: 82 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1779 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Hallifax, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Worth Ecclesiastical parish: Poynton County/Island: Cheshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Macclesfield Sub-registration district: Prestbury ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Lin Norbury 45 Mary Norbury 43 Ann Bramall 82
Levi is not Lin name mistranscribed Levi was a Farmer of 4 acres Ann a Propriotor of Houses
Address Dale Farm House in same area as the Dale House Fold mentioned on the 1851.
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***Michelle***
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4 May 2009 20:42 |
Kats
Can i check with you re the surname?Frederick you list as Davis and both parents as Wade.Was Davis the mother's maiden name?
Thanks Michelle
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4 May 2009 20:51 |
Michelle, sorry getting all the branches of my tree mixed up Father was George Davis b c 1808 Mother Sarah Davis c c 1826/27 St Andrew Holborn
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***Michelle***
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4 May 2009 21:53 |
Kats
Looks like Sarah married in 1872
Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record View Record William Baird 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record Sarah Davis 1872 London City Greater London, London, Middlesex View Record
England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 about Sarah Davis Name: Sarah Davis Year of Registration: 1872 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: London City County: Greater London, London, Middlesex Volume: 1c Page: 148 (click to see others on page) So in theory should be under Davis so will have a look.
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***Michelle***
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4 May 2009 22:18 |
Kats
Frederick was born in 1864
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Frederick William Davis Name: Frederick William Davis Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Clerkenwell County: Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 536 (click to see others on page) Only poss death i can see is in 1864 for George under Frederick George Davis and is the only 1 for Clerkenwell area
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Frederick George Davis Name: Frederick George Davis Year of Registration: 1864 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: Clerkenwell County: Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 425 (click to see others on page) The birth was registered in December.Death in Q3 for the poss for George i found.
I am trying to see if to look for Sarah with George or not.I think he was dead.Will continue searching the 1871.
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4 May 2009 22:39 |
Hi Michelle, I just hate to ask again because I know that you have been so busy with a new job and family etc but I was wondering how you got on with my query re my gt grandmother Elizabeth McCannah who decided to change her surname to Goulton when she registered some of her children's births.
I expect that it is proving very difficult, so hopefully you have had some luck. Once again sorry to bother you again.
With kind regards
Jill
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***Michelle***
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4 May 2009 23:14 |
Kats
Can't see the 1871 at moment???I will try again but must move on as i have got behind starting my new job the other week and i have a few i need to go back onto.
Michelle
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***Michelle***
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5 May 2009 00:14 |
Jill
Did look before and had no luck and did mean to return back to yours...and then had lots of new requests come through and forgot...so sorry!
Will look again i feel this 1 is tricky cos there is only 1 census to work off the 1871 and the surname is uncertain which makes it even harder.I will need time to look and will prob have to come back to this when next on cos its late and i am up early out to work and school runs 1st thing.
Michelle
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5 May 2009 17:46 |
Thank you Michelle I appreciate the time and effort you are putting in together with all your other work load. You are very kind to spend time helping people.
Kind regards
Jill
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5 May 2009 19:20 |
Michelle, thanks for the info, know how busy you are. Look forward to hopefully finding out something later.
Kats
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***Michelle***
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5 May 2009 22:11 |
Jill
I wish i had good news for you...i have been looking for hours and i can't see them.I'm wondering if her father William was Irish and lived in Ireland?Maybe she was born in Hampshire as listed on the 1891 but i can't see her birth registered?It was not compulsory to register births till 1875 though.
If William was Irish it is possible that we do not view Elizabeth on the 1871 and they may have been visiting Ireland?Do you know if he was Irish?The surname could have been mistranscribed and as there is confusion of the 2 surnames,it makes this tricky.I do find most mistranscripts though and like i say i have been looking all eve.There are William's with similar surnames on the census records who are Shoemaker's but the birthyears for 1 in particular i found was way out and also looked back on him and no ELizabeth??
Sorry i haven't helped much.My advise now would be to contact Southampton records office with the info you have...copies of certs and all details and see if they maybe able to find something in the records. Another thing to try is to post a lookup request on the Records Office Board for this family...alot of eyes may well see something i haven't. Best of luck and keep me informed.
Michelle
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6 May 2009 15:29 |
Hi Michelle, thank you very much for all your time and effort. I wish I knew whether he was Irish or not. I know several of Elizabeth's children were born in Ireland but I believe that is only because James was in the army and posted there.
As with most families, stories are told which are proved unfounded and one told to me was that an ancester was a shoemaker to the young Queen Victoria in Scotland. With all the other tales that I have disovered so far in my family have proved untrue, I dismissed William, as a shoemaker, as being one of those.
Sadly I do not have any-one in my family to ask but I will contact the Southampton Record Office as you suggested and see what happens.
Thank you once again for all your time and effort.
With kind regards
Jill
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