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Kathleen

Kathleen Report 30 Sep 2008 22:14

Hi, still working on this line, can anyone find the death of Lucy Siveter, she was alive on the 1861 census. I have tried BMd and LDS, but she is not on there. It would be the same area. Staffordshire or Worcester.
Many thanks for all your help on this line, your a god send
Best wishes
Kathy7

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 30 Sep 2008 19:41


Hi, thanks for all the info you have posted still working on this one, will get back soon
Cheers
Kathy

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 30 Sep 2008 00:08

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005 - Burial
First name(s): Sarah
Last name: SIVETER
Date of burial: 17 Aug 1832
Age at death: 27
Calculated year of birth: 1805
Place of burial: Rowley Regis
Dedication: St Giles
County: Staffordshire
Notes:

Rowley Regis St Giles:
Denomination: Anglican
Coverage: 1616 - 1839
Number of entries: 10,887
Record source: National Burial Index
Data provider: Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry
Transcriptions © Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 23:56

It could also be that Mary snr was never married before.

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles


MARY HODGETTS Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 APR 1806 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: TIMOTHY HODGETTS
Mother: MARY

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C013762 1736 - 1761 0886632 Film 0883772 Film
C013762 1761 - 1786 0886633 Film NONE
C013762 1786 - 1826 0886634 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 23:53

Hi Kathy

I would think on the first marriage cert she named her father as WiIliam Hodgetts to look respectable, she was perhaps only slightly bending the truth. As she was a widow for the second marriage it didn't matter that her surname was different to that of her father so she could give her real fathers name. Or it could be when asked her fathers name she said William and the minister just put Hodgetts as that was her surname.

Regards
LfW

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 23:18

Hi lost, I have looked at that one, but not sure what to make of the fact when Mary married her first husband, James Dainty she named her father as William hodgetts, I have the cert, when she married the 2nd time she named her father as William siviter, I have that cert as well. I think this one will end up as a brick wall as I dont know what to think.

thanks for all your help on this line, you are all stars
Kathy

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 23:10

Possible :-)

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles


MARY HODGETTS Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 28 JUN 1840 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN HODGETTS
Mother: MARY

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C013763 1826 - 1836 0886635 Film 0933363 Film
C013763 1836 - 1873 0886636 Film NONE
C013763 1873 - 1875 0886638 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 22:45

Hi, i have tried looking for the births of Mary hodgetts Children, Phebe Hodgets 1828c, Martha Hodgets 1832c, and Mary Hodgets 1840. I cant find them can anyone else please take a look, I must be missing something, I thought I might get the fathers name which would be a real find as I have never found a marriage for their mother.
Please help if you can
Cheers
Kathy

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 22:44

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles


WILLM. SIVITER Male

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 18 SEP 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: WILLM. SIVITER
Mother: SARAH

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C040144 1825 - 1828 0378767 Film 6901851 Film
C040144 1828 - 1833 0378769 Film NONE
C040144 1833 0378770 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 22:41

Hi Kathy

Halesowen is about 3 miles from Rowley Regis (good old AutoRoute!)

The birth I found is the only one I can find for any of the children!

Regards
LfW

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 22:30

hi, I have found this one, but it is in Worcester, not sure if that is near Stafford or not, any ideas.

WILLIAM SIVITER to SARAH HACKETT 15 SEP 1823 Halesowen, Worcester, England

Thanks
Kathy

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 22:25

Thanks Lost good thinking, looking for birth of child to get name of parents, you learn something every day. so what I am looking for is a marriage of william sivister and Sarah, off now to find it, I will also need the death of sarah, she must have died before 1841, will get back soon
Thanks to all
Kathy

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 22:16

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 British Isles


Phebe Siveter Female

Event(s):
Birth:
Birch Hill
Christening: 01 DEC 1823 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: William Siveter
Mother: Sarah Siveter

Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C043496 Film
Sheet:

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 22:14

1841 census transcription details for: Redhalhill, Rowley Regis
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 997 Book/Folio: 5/17 Page: 29

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District:
Parish: Rowley Regis City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Redhalhill, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation, Where Born
SIVITER, William M 35 1806 Staffordshire
SIVITER, Mary F 35 1806 Staffordshire
SIVITER, William M 15 1826 Staffordshire
SIVITER, Phebe F 14 1827 Staffordshire
SIVITER, Richard M 12 1829 Staffordshire
SIVITER, Samuel M 12 1829 Staffordshire
SIVITER, James M 10 1831 Staffordshire
SIVITER, Seelina F 9 1832 Staffordshire
HODGETS, Phebe F 13 1828 Staffordshire
HODGETS, Martha F 9 1832 Staffordshire
HODGETS, Mary F 1 1840 Staffordshire
TOMPKISS, John M 15 1826

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 22:13

Hi, thanks to all. This is the william I am related to:

WILLM. SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: AUG 1805
Christening: 17 MAY 1807 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

As I said I cant find a marriage for him.
Here they are in 1841. Please note that his year of birth changes on every census, so take it 5 year either way please. Mary Siviter 1806 is in fact Mary Hodgetts. The Mary Hodgetts b1840 is in fact his only child to Mary Hodgetts. The other children are from former marriages.
1841
William Siviter abt 1806
Mary Siviter abt1806
William Siveter abt 1826
Phebe Siveter abt 1827
Phebe Hodgets abt 1828
Richard Siveter abt 1829
Samuel Siveter abt 1829
James Siveter abt 1831
Martha Hodgets abt 1832
Seelena Siveter abt 1832
Mary Hodgets abt 1840

I have 2 marriages for Mary b1840, she names her father as William hodgetts in the first and William Siveter in the second.

Any help welcome
Kathy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Sep 2008 22:08

???? Thomas b.ca 1797 on the 1841??

1841 Census

Name: Thomas Siveter
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Hundred: North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub registration district: Wolverhampton Western
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Siveter 40
Maria Siveter 45
Louisa Siveter 19




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Sep 2008 22:04

children of Samel Siviter and Lucy from familysearch



WILLM. SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: AUG 1805
Christening: 17 MAY 1807 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

JUDA SIVETER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 JUN 1812 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

SAML. SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 17 MAY 1807 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

JNO. SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 OCT 1803 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

SARAH SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 28 APR 1799 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

THOMAS SIVITER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 16 APR 1797 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England





sylvia

Lost for Words ;-)

Lost for Words ;-) Report 29 Sep 2008 22:04

1851 England Census about Lucy Siviter
Name: Lucy Siviter
Age: 85
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1766
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Rowley Regis
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street address: Treacle Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: Widow

Disability:

Registration district: Dudley
Sub registration district: Rowley Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
John Siviter 50
Joseph Siviter 5
Lucy Siviter 15
Lucy Siviter 85
Richard Siviter 17
Saml Siviter 13
Sarah Siviter 45
Sarah Ann Siviter 12
Thomas Siviter 7
William Siviter 10


Name: John Siviter
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Nail Forger

Name: Sarah Siviter
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Richard Siviter
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Lucy Siviter
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Saml Siviter
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Sarah Ann Siviter
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: William Siviter
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Thomas Siviter
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Name: Joseph Siviter
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Rowly, Staffordshire, England

Kathleen

Kathleen Report 29 Sep 2008 22:01

Hi, can anyone find the marriage of William, I have him in 1841 but he is living with Mary Hodgetts, although they say they are married they were not, as in later census she is listed with him but in the name of Hodgetts. Because Ihe was married before and had children to her first marriage. I cant find a marriage for her or her birth and I dont know how I will ever find out. So I am working on the siviter line.
Thanks
Kathy

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Sep 2008 22:01

???

is this the marriage you found????

from familysearch


SAML SIVITER Pedigree
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: LUCY ASTON Family
Marriage: 06 APR 1795 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M009901 1539 - 1684 0873644 Film 0543863 Film

M009901 1685 - 1771 0476914 Film NONE

M009901 1772 - 1812 0096891 Film NONE




sylvia