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Jacobs Fathers Name Wendel Wahl and Wilhelmina's Jacob Hub. Jacob was born in Heimbach or Helmbach Near the Rhine. Thanks for your help John

mgnv This could be with Adam being a mistake; Fredrick Rothfuchs is on there Marraige cert. But why can I not find Them in search on Genes. Are the Rothfuchs on 1901 I have found them on 1881 Census then they disapear on rest. Thanks for your help John

census for 1891 was 5th April

I don't know the relevance - just went for address:

1891 England Census
Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 26 Greyhound Rd
Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16

Friedrich Rothfucks 43 Germany Head M Bandmaster
Minnie Rothfucks 34 Germany Wife
Minnie Rothfucks 13 London, England Daughter S Scholar
Clara Rothfucks 5 London, England Daughter S Scholar
Adam Wahl 26 Germany Cousin M Musician
(female) Wahl 20 Germany Cousin Wife
Carl Morgenstein 48 Germany Boarder M Bandmaster

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 47; Folio 153; Page 4; GSU roll: 6095157.

There's a second household at this address, consisting of Jacob Martin (head) and 15 male boarders - all 16 are musicians with pob=Germany.

Libby4 as I say in my Thread Grey Hound Road is in In Fulham London. John

where's Greyhoud Road ?

Can any one help it seems stange that they should be missed off just after there weding and the birth of there child is there any way to look at Greyhoud Road results with out name. John

Have Fathers Names from Cert. Cannot find Jacob or Wilhelnima (Minnie) in 1891 census. Eldest Child Wilhelmina Born 26 Grayhound Road. On The 8 October 1891. When was the Census where where they. John

Janice we do not know if Minnie was before or after census. Jacob was before census 1878, but Those you have found do not appear to be him. Nither came with their parents so not on Cert. Jacob may have join army before 1881 census but as far as we know he did not serve abroad in his 16 year service. Thanks john

same area as 1901 census ?
1891
Name: J Wahl -----bootmaker
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: A
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Stratford Le Bow St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England


Name: A Wahl
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: J
Gender: Female
Where born: Spitalfields, London, England

Civil Parish: Stratford Le Bow St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Country: England


Name: J Wahl
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: J
Mother's Name: A
Gender: Female
Where born: St Georges in The East, London, England

Civil Parish: Stratford Le Bow St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: London
Address looks like Bloudin Street

If they came over with parents the marriage cert should give fathers names to help in the search for them in census years. Did Minnie arrived before the 1881 census was taken?

Yes it could be possible had not thought about it like that. We will see if we can find out any more thanks John

if he was 36 as per 1901 census he would have been 16 in 1881. Just thought as he was only listed be an initial that could have been wrong on a large crew list.

we think he the wrong one age is not right and we know his name was Jacob. Thanks anyway John

John have we found them in 1901 then?? could they have been in Germany ,so not on early censues

These are your guys in the 1901 and both were born in Germany


Jacob Wahl
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Minnie
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Fulham
Sub registration district: North West Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 356
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Wahl 1
Annie Wahl 3
Frederick Wahl 5
Jacob Wahl 36
Jacob Wahl 7
Minnie Wahl 30
Minnie Wahl 9

also in 1901 is this a rel?
Name: Jacob Wahl
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Father-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Foreign Subject, Germany

Civil Parish: St Mary Stratford Bow
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Tower Hamlets
County/Island: London
Country: England
Name: Jane C Morris if it is a re. then this could be his sister
[Jane C Wahl]
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles J
Father's Name: Jacob
Gender: Female
Where born: St Georges, London, England
Household Members: Name Age
Ada F Morris 5
Charles J Morris 29
Florence Morris 2
Jane A Morris 6
Jane C Morris 27
Jacob Wahl 56

? is this them in 1901
Name: Jacob Wahl
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Minnie
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London

Name: Minnie Wahl
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Jacob
Gender: Female
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Wahl 1
Annie Wahl 3
Frederick Wahl 5
Jacob Wahl 36
Jacob Wahl 7
Minnie Wahl 30
Minnie Wahl 9

? marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Marriages Mar 1891 (>99%)

Gifford William Davie Pancras 1b 224
Hub Wilhelmina Pancras 1b 224 ------------
Pilotti Nora Pancras 1b 224
Wahl Jacob Pancras 1b 224 ----------------

John 1881 census is free to search http://www.familysearch.org this is one of the sites you can find it on