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Dudley,

If Henry was still around for the 1911 census and you have an address you could pay for a lookup.

Rose

No not yet.. He is a probable. If it was this Henry that had two children with me grandmother then he would have been about 74 years old when they were born.

Must close down now. Thanks for all your help and suggestions. Dud.

so you've discounted him to?

Have also come across this Henry.

1861 Servant. Soho. age 19
1871 Bootmaker. Now b.St Lukes. age 32
1881 John Johns (enumarators error) age 43 Boot finisher.
1891 age 53 Bootmaker
1901 Wife shown as widow.
Death of a Henry Johns 1899 aged 62 London City.
Family were living Finsbury so London City is not truly correct unless he was there at the time of his death. The only way of proving this is by obtaining the death cert. Dud.

Births Dec 1841
JOHNS Henry Valence Strand 1 337

Could your man have lost some age over time??

1861 England Census
about Henry Johns
Name: Henry Johns
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Soho, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Westminster St James
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Hi.
The children I refer to were both born in Aldershot one of which was my mother now 98 years old. She knows absolutely nothing about her father as she was only two years old when he dissapeared . My grandmother married again in 1918. Dud.

As it stands, your guy was not born when are where you think, that still applies...

If this Henry isn't your guy and your sure of it your task is not over...

When were the children born? Do you have address's you can search the census for?

If you look up Rosina FERRY on the 1901 (enumerators error again) you will find her at the same address and Henry was still with her but not a bootmaker but a haberdasher. Dud.

Hey Dud

Again, i'm not finding that??

Want to post me the details?

Tracey

Rosina with her mother in 1871...

1871 England Census
Name: Rosina Johnson
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Bishopsgat, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub registration district: St Paul

Alice Johnson 12
Elizabeth Johnson 51
Emily Johnson 35
Rosina Johnson 18

Hi Again. Sorry I had to nip out.

I think you will find Henry Johnson was still with his sister Rosina Terry on the 1901 census therefore he could not have been in Aldershot in 1901. Dud.

To add weigth to this, there are NO relevant births for Henry Johns at all

There are only Welsh births for Henry John

So this would be your likely man....

I know sometimes things fall at you your not expecting, but 2 of us have found this guy and he's a Boot man all the way thru and from London. It seems maybe he was Illiterate and couldn;t spell his name, or he changed it to avoid be found?? Esp likely if he was fathering children with different women??

Tracey

Rosina's birth

Births Jun 1852
Johnson Rosina St George in the East 1c 402

Henry's birth...

2 possibles...

Births Dec 1850
Johnson Henry St Geo. East 2 114
Johnson Henry George St Geo Han Sq 1 6


Tracey

I think somewhere along the line it seems your man has shortened his name!!...or it's been abreviated and stuck !

1881 England Census
Name: Henry G. Johnson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St George in The East
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 85 Lower Chapman St
Education:

Occupation: Boot Clicker

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub registration district: St Paul

George Gray 4
Rosina Gray 28 << Henry's sister
Elizabeth Johnson 61 << Henry's mother
Henry G. Johnson 33

Following on from Traceys find

1881 England Census
about Henry G. Johnson
Name: Henry G. Johnson
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St George in The East
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 85 Lower Chapman St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Boot Clicker

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Gray 4
Rosina Gray 28
Elizabeth Johnson 61
Henry G. Johnson 33


Johnson Could be a mistake by the census taker. They could have mis-heard

This is her second marriage....

Marriages Dec 1881
GRAY Rosina Mile End 1c 1056
TERRY Thomas Henry Mile End 1c 1056

Don't dismiss things so easily.... It seems dear Rosina has 2 children with different names..... so she's been married at least twice!!!

Tracey
(still unravelling this)

Ive had this one before. Henry's name is Johnson.
Rosina Terry was his sister and her maiden name was Johnson. Dud.

Here he is in 1891...

1891 England Census
about Henry J John
Name: Henry J John
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, London, England

Civil Parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub registration district: St George North

George Gray 14 < Rosina's Son
Henry J John 41 << Bootmaker
Rosina Terry 38 << Head, Widow, Sister to John !!!!
Thomas Terry 9 << Rosina's Son