Find Ancestors

OK but it is still worth getting his birth cert to see if his actual date of birth is given -then if you post it here we could search with that info for any William George who died with that date of birth

I been told that the "William Newland" was born and Married in Hitchin
So we we maybe back to square one

I wonder who the informant of death will be maybe a half brother or sister to my Nan?
I cant wait to see..........

I only have the dates from the marriage cert so I will send off for the Birth, once it arrives I will send for the death.
I wish that my Nan was alive to find out what happened to her father, sadly she died in January.

A 70 year mystery could be a week away from being solved, thank you Gillian for all your time and help, you are a credit to Genes Reunited!
I

Not unless you can confirm the actual date of birth (by sending for his birth cert if you do not already know it)

Do you think I should send for the cert then of William Newland ?(the stepfathers surname)

who died Barnet Herts (the pub connection) in Oct 1984 aged 92. 30/1/1892 which fits with the registration of WGT in Farnham in Mar Quarter of 1892

But the names used are kinda what we are looking for. I wonder .....

I just found this doing a google search

http://www.military-genealogy.com/nameShow?war=1&sid=498548

William Newland Baker


The information about the person below comes from the 'Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914 to 1919' database, a service provided by The Naval & Military Press through the Military-Genealogy.com web site

He cant of died in the war as the family did see him

He married great grandma - Blanche Violet Baker in 1915
Infomation from Marriage cert -

13th October 1915 Portsmouth
William George Trice/ 23 years/ Bachelor/ Bombardier R.F.A/
54 Elm Road Llile End/ His Fathers Name William George Trice deceased/Profession Sergent Major O.S.C

Had my nan in 1922 (Joan Trice)
That puts his date of birth in 1892

He sounds like such a character changing his name, I wonder if he had a criminal record ?

Gillian you are fantasic!!!! I think you could be on to something here !!!
Going back through my notes to see if there is more info I can add to help
Will be back in a mo

Julie
Do you know his actual birth date ? This could help find his death if it was after 1966 as it is listed in the index

I did find a William Newland (his stepfathers surname) who died Barnet Herts (the pub connection) in Oct 1984 aged 92. His birth date was given as 30/1/1892 which fits with the registration of WGT in Farnham in Mar Quarter of 1892
But it is only worth spending money on if that birth date matches your knowledge
As for his WW2 record -would he not have been too old -47 when it started?

yeah trice me having a mad moment ! sorry

TRICE....or ..BAKER..?

You could perhaps apply for his 2nd World War Army record and see if that reveals anything?
It's not that cheap and I believe there is quite a wait for paperwork to arrive though.

Gwyn

I will come back in a while to see if there are any messages for me

My Nan was the youngest of three girls, my nan was born 1922 and we think her father William George TRICE left about 1934 give or take a year. Last Known address 42 Elm Road, Mile End, Portsmouth. He was a Sergeant Major in the army, based in Colchester, Essex.
Nan last saw her Dad at waterloo station London when my Dad was born which would have been about 1946 so we know he was alive then. He disappeared again and was last known working in a pub in Hertfordshire?
Thats all we know, Thanks for you help

William would be my Great Grandfather

I guess thats an idea Gwyn

I wonder if he left a Will...perhaps naming that small child as a beneficiary?

Gwyn

Gillian,
I dont know his mothers maiden name that might be the next step.
Nana Joan, Auntie Vera and Auntie Noreen have all past away.They were all brought up with out a father. I asked Nana Joan alot about her father she told me he left her a little money on the table and walked out on them and their poor mother Blanch. He did in later life visit my Nana Joan in Wood Green London when my Dad was born which was 1946 so we are certain he was alive then. Also Nan remembers a small boy with him not sure when this was. Could this child have been a half brother to my nan? I just dont know where to look now.

Is it worth thinking he left the uk?
or could he have died and no one knew who he was "known only unto God "