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This Margaret had a brother John, a bricklayer - if she lied about her age she may had also lied about her father??......... clutching at straws really :-S

Have you done an address search for the 1871 census?

I don't have FMP and it's a ball ache doing it on Ancestry


Wheathill St Salford

They have changed the search on FMP Ginns and I can no longer do a street search but I have done this in the past with no result. I seen to remember there were a lot of 'lodgers' so they could just have stayed there for a short time before they married.

Am going to look for Flip's Alex and Margaret...........

Dea x

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/853492

Think Dea tried this back in 2005 Gins! Not sure if she actually found the street though, we'll have to wait for her to finish lunch :-D

Speak of the devil!!

Well Flip - that was 'a blast from the past' I don't remember posting that and I never post on 'chat' nowadays so would never have noticed it.

It is a good job I only asked about the street or I would have been guilty of 'posting about the same person twice' :-D :-D

Dea x

I can't find Margaret with father Alex on 1871 - can you post a reference please Flip?

Dea x

Mary - did you just post and delete it or am I going totally doolally ?

The info you had was correct by the way and it is a real mystery as to where those children were!

Dea x

I'll find the census and post up - your old post came up in a google search for the street! You've been on this for almost 10 years :-D

I know Flip !!!!!!!!! :-( :-( :-( and somehow I don't think I will ever solve it :-(

You would think that in all that time I would have come across someone who was looking for Margaret or Thomas or John or at least had some connection but the very few people I have found to be looking at this family are only VERY distantly related along other lines.

Dea x

Alex McLaughlin
Age:50
Estimated birth year:abt 1821
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ann McLaughlin
Gender:Male
Where born:Antrim, Northern Ireland
Civil Parish:Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish:St Paul
Town:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Country:England
Registration district:Salford
Sub-registration district:Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel:2
Household schedule number:114
Piece:4008
Folio:31
Page Number:22
Household Members:NameAge
Alex McLaughlin 50
Ann McLaughlin 48
Margt McLaughlin 22
William McLaughlin 20
Alex McLaughlin 18
Charles McLaughlin 16
John McLaughlin 12
Robert McLaughlin 10
Mary McLaughlin 2 (grand daughter)

All born Antrim, Ireland apart from Robert & Mary. Alexander was on 1881 census and son Johny was a bricklayer.

Added - the occupation of john(y) was what led me to them I searched on FMP for occupation *brick* hoping to find the father. No idea if this is connected to your Margaret though, I'm betting she shacked up with someone else - didn't like Mark so ditched him ;-)

Dea

Have a look at this woman as a possible for mother to Margaret. I know Margaret is not on this census but she could have been staying elsewhere



1861 England Census

Name:Mary McLeckling

Age:44

Estimated birth year:1817

Relation:Head

Gender:Female

Where born:Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Salford

Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch

Town:Salford

County/Island:Lancashire

Registration district:Salford

Sub-registration district:Regent Road

ED, institution, or vessel:32

Household schedule number:101

Piece:2926

Folio:12

Page Number:17

Household Members:

Mary McLeckling 44
Ellen McLackling 23
James McLackling 13





1871 England Census

Name:Mary Mc Lochlin

Age:54

Estimated birth year:abt 1817

Relation:Head

Gender:Female

Where born:Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish:Salford

Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch

Town:Salford

County/Island:Lancashire

Registration district:Salford

Sub-registration district:Regent Road

ED, institution, or vessel:21

Household schedule number:175

Piece:4023

Folio:135

Page Number:29

Household Members:

Mary Mc Lochlin 54
Ellen Mc Lochlin 30
James Mc Lochlin 22
James Mc Lochlin 11 Months

Sorry Dea I posted about Lucy Irvine,then I realised you had the info.

1871 Greengate Salford D31 > 35
7,Wheathill Street
henry green 27 brickmaker born Salford
Alice 32 Liverpool
James 8 Salford
Walter 6 Salford.

1871 Temperance Street Pendleton D2 > 23
Alex McLaughlin 50 Antrim Ireland
Margaret age 22 unmarried.

Maryb.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850

MCGLOCKLIN Margaret Salford Regent Road Salford RR/25/10

(not sure of anything folks, did see above this morning, never had time to add, not sure if fitting with Gins Census above)


1851
Regent Road HO107/2224 87233 (but think they were on FMP, Reference Search)

Sections of the Salford 1851 census are water damaged and have never been filmed, but the Manchester & Lancashire FHS have transcribed a considerable portion of this from the original records at the National Archives The transcripts are available from the society as 1384 Salford Regent Rd, 26 fiche.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/Salford/census.html

Chris :)

(apologies if already added!, just back from village walk, so brain full of fresh air, been blowing away the FMP blues! )

Well, I have your Mary on 1851 Ginns but no sign of a husband ??


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name ELLEN
Last Name MCLOUGHLIN
Relationship *
Condition -
Gender Female
Age 13
Year Of Birth 1838
Occupation SCHOLAR
Birth Place -
Birth Town SALFORD
Birth County LANCASHIRE
House Number -
House Name -
Street BRUNSWICK STREET
Parish MANCHESTER
City -
County Lancashire
Hamlet SALFORD
Parliamentary Borough -
Municipal Ward -
Registration District SALFORD
Archive Reference HO107
Piece Number 2224
Folio -
Page -

Other Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth Birth Town
MARY MCKENDRERY HEAD 77 1774 PENDLETON Laundress
Image Transcription
MARY MCLOUGHLIN NIECE 33 1818 PENDLETON Laundress - Unmarried !
Image Transcription
JAMES MCLOUGHLIN - 2 1849 SALFORD

Dea x

1841
Name:Mary McCandry
Age:65
Estimated birth year:abt 1776
Gender:Female
Where born:
Lancashire, England
Civil Parish:Salford
Hundred:Salford
County/Island:Lancashire
Registration district:Salford
Sub-registration district:Regent Road
Piece:586
Book:13
Folio:29
Page Number:10

(Mary and Ellen McL, on same page)

Chris :)


Deaths Jun 1855 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------
McKendry Mary Salford 8d 53

Flip - How did you search on FMP with occupation 'brick' for that John McLaughlin ?

I can't see the option to put in the occupation now that the site has changed :-S

Dea x

I don't subscribe to fmp, but can't see much in the way of change -not that I look on there much. I searched 1881 in the hope her father was still around & in the same occupation - the occupation box is greyed out for 1871.

It sounds like you still have access to the old search format (lucky you !!!). they have now completely altered it for subscribers and it is totally useless :-(

Thanks Flip,

Dea x

1861Lancashire Ancoats St Jude Manchester D36>20
tittr(can't make it out) McLaughlin 1816 Ireland Labourer BRICKSETTER!!
Margt 1821 Ireland
Bridget 1846 Ireland cotton piecer
Margt 1851 born Liverpool scholar
Mary 1856 Liverpool.

Is this Thomas McLaughlin born before Margaret married Mark.
J/A/S 1868 Manchester 8d 203.

Maryb.

That looks VERY promising Mary - I will go and take a look >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Dea Xxx