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Mary,

It is possible 'John' was not his usual first name? In which case the net is a little bigger than you expect!!

Still looking...

Tracey

Sarah,

Could this possibly be Thomas's parents marriage??

Marriages Dec 1910
ELLIOTT Thomas Grimsby 7a 1511
Pendergaust Margaret A Grimsby 7a 1511

and Thomas's birth...??

Births Dec 1913
Elliott Thomas H mmn Pendergaust Grimsby 7a 1181

Does your Thomas have any siblings that would help identify him further??

Births Dec 1912
Elliott Mary mmn Pendergaust Grimsby 7a 1151

Births Dec 1919
Elliott Jack mmn Pendergaust Grimsby 7a 1228

Tracey

Hi Tracey

Sorry for not staying around to answer any queries, my son is over from Spain and is going back later today so I've been spending time with him.

No, I don't think that is my Henry. I'm pretty sure I have found a marriage for that particular Henry :-((
There is another in 1871 noted on the census as "wife's son" which I thought was him as the occupation matched - but when I worked back his mother Alice had been married to a Richard Rose, so that is another one to discount :-(((

This guy is more elusive than the scarlet pimpernel lol

Mary

Mary...

Your killing me, but could this be your Henry Rose & family?? Looks like John snr has already died...Harriet is listed as widow.

1871 England Census
Name: Henry Randolph Rose
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: St Peter
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Herefordshire
Country: England

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Hereford
Sub registration district: Hereford City

Agness May Rose 18
Harriett Rose 57
Harriett Isabella Rose 28
Henry Randolph Rose 15
John Rose 29


Births Dec 1855
Rose Henry Randoplh Stoke T 6b 146

1861 England Census
Name: John Randolph Rose
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriett
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Penkhull
Ecclesiastical parish: Stoke upon Trent
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
Sub registration district: Stoke Upon Trent

Sarah Jones 33
Agnes M Randolph Rose 8
Alfred P Randolph Rose 13
Harriett Randolph Rose 47
Harriett J Randolph Rose 18
Henry R Randolph Rose 5
John Randolph Rose 51
John Randolph Rose 19


Marriages Sep 1840
CLERK Harriett Marylebone 1 217
ROSE John Randolph Marylebone 1 217


John Senior is listed as being a Magistrates Clerk....but this does very much like your lot.... I wonder how much Henry knew about his father if he died when he was so young...?

Tracey

HI Tracey,this is the first time I've looked at this board I didn't realize it is here till now,I can't believe someone is willing to help me so here goes.
My father cant find his fathers date of birth and there are quite a few Thomas Elliott's when I've tried to look on the census.
His details I already have are;
His marriage cert.31st December 1949 @ Grimsby Register Office in the county borough of Grimsby
aged 30 yrs bachelor,fisherman,residing at 174 Hainton Avenue,Grimsby,Fathers name,Thomas Elliott,Labourer.
Married Edna May Taylor,Formerly Holmes,32yrs,formerly the wife of Harry Roy Taylor divorced.

I also have details of his death;
from the maritime and coastguard agency I obtained his cert as he died at sea abourd The Lord Hawke,port of registry,Grimsby,official number 184313.
date of death 6th Feb 1966,
place;Malagan Bank,Norwegian Coast,Lat 71oN,Long 16oE died aged 46 fireman profession,usual place of residence,16 Craven road,cleethorpes.

It seems like I have a lot of info but have come to a complete standstill with not knowing place of birth,please can you help as I dont know where to look,much appreciated.
Sarah

Hi Tracey, thank you for looking, I did think that perhaps any other children may have died as well, I keep finding another edward fron tunty gray i did wonder if this was the family but the children don,t match this is most annoying! Thanks again for taking the time to look though
julie

LindyLu

Here is your Walter, still a Braxton in 1861... and with his Gparents, also Braxton's....does this help at all?

1861 England Census
Name: Walter Braxton
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Longparish
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Andover
Sub registration district: Longparish

Clemence Braxton 11
Emma Braxton 13
Sarah Braxton 49
Thomas Braxton 50
Walter Braxton 12

I have found this in 1851.... have you also got this data?

1851 England Census
Name: Walter Bath
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Andover, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Longparish
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Andover
Sub registration district: Longparish

Albert Bath 2 Mo << Son of Fanny
Walter Bath 3 << Son of Fanny
Fanny Batt 23 << Daughter of Thomas & Sarah - Wherwell, Hampshire, England
Charlotta Brackstone 16 << Dau
Clamma Brackstone 1 << Dau
Emma Brackstone 4 << Dau
Jane Brackstone 9 << Dau
Sarah Brackstone 40 << Wherwell, Hampshire, England
Thos Brackstone 45 << Carter, Long Parish, Hampshire, England

Hi Tracey

I've got a good one for you.....it will keep you busy for today, tomorrow and probably several days after that LOL. I've been searching for this gg grandfather for over 4 years now.

Henry Rose married in 1879 - gives his age as 24 on the cert (same as wife), his occupation as "fitter" and father as John Rose glass maker deceased. Witnesses are wife's family so no clues there :-(( I have him on the 1881 and all following census as an iron moulder and pob as West Bromwich. I just cannot find this guy anywhere before his marriage in 1879 - can you help please?

Thanks

Mary

Hi Julie

Given their ages in 1871, i would say it's highly unlikely they would have had older children who would have already left home....The only additional children you may find are those that may have died. I have so far not managed to find them in 1861...still looking tho !!

1871 England Census
Name: Edward E Bannister
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Tottenham Court

Arthur Bannister 6
Edward E Bannister 39
Edward W Bannister 13
Emma J Bannister 2 months
Francis J Bannister 4
Jane Bannister 37
William E Bannister 11

Thanks Tracey
I'm inclined to think that you (and everyone else who's had a go at this on) are right.
INIS has had a look but no luck, I even went to Dublin myself.
Think it might be the end of the line with the Basebe/Browns, at least until some more Irish records come on line.
Thanks again - Pam

Pam

I would have to say i agree with the concensus of opion on your own thread regarding the first marriage... Either Samuel met and married Jane in Ireland and then brought her here or they stated they were married when indeed they were not....Happens more then we realise!!

I would suggest you drop onto INIS's (excellent Irish resource) thread and see what can be found from the Irish point of view...

Sorry i couldn;t be of more help...


Tracey

please could you help?
I have a missing census 1861
Edward E Bannister born 1832 st pancras
Jane Bannister Born 1834
Edward william born 1857
William E born 1860
Address could be either john street or gresse street all st pancras area I think! I have 1871 onwards but just can not find 1861 (wanted to see if there was any other children) This could be mistranscribed! just my luck, so if you could help I would be grateful thanks julie

Tracey

I suggest you open the pimms and sit in the garden!!

BUT, before you do, I have a wierd one for you. My g grandfather was called Albert Batt he was born in hindley lancs, His father, as far as we know was Walter John Batt, however, after years of searching I found them in Hindley, and earier in Hampshire under the name of Braxton/Brackstone. On sending for the marriage cert of Walter John Brackstone he says his father was called John (deceased).

My problem is I cant find any record of him before his marriage as Walter Braxton, however I can find several records which would fit under the name of Walter Batt! (He married Emma Appleton in Basingstoke in 1869 by the way).

Was he born Walter John Batt or Walter John Braxton/Brackstone?

Maybe having the Pimms prior to reading this may have helped!

Thanks anyway!

Good Morning Tracey
Here's one that's been giving me severe headaches for quite some time.

I'm looking for the marriage of my great great grandfather Samuel Basebe born c1835 in the Shoreditch area of London to a Jane Brown(e) born c1835 in Dublin.

I have Samuel's baptism from IGI at St Leonards, Shoreditch and I have him on every census from 1841 to 1901 variously transcribed as Ishmael Basebe, Samuel Basile,Bassebe, Bailie and Basche.

I have his subsequent marriages in 1876 to Alice Ayer and in 1884 to Hannah Symons.

I have their daughter Rosina's birth certificate (1859 Chelsea) which gave me Jane's maiden name.

There is a possible Jane Brown in 1841 living with James and Susannah Hedderley in Chelsea listed as a niece. Susannah maiden name was Saunders and she too was from Ireland.

Without that marriage certificate I cannot get any further back with Jane's family - and Brown's in Ireland are not exactly rare!

Good Luck

Pam

Lorraine

Births Sep 1901
Bird John William Bromley 2a 480
Bird Joseph Edward Bromley 2a 480


In theory multiple births are indicated by several factors, Firstly the vol and page numbers, they are usually on the same page or sequential pages (if one entry is at the bottom of the page and the next at the top of the other) The second highly giving point is that the time will be on the birth certs, this is the main indicating factor to multiple births.

Everyone has their own cert, so they will not appear on the same certififcate but each have their own, and should have their time of birth written. You will only need to order both certs if you need both!

As for your missing person, i'll try and find him now for you...

Tracey

JJ

Could this be your problem??


Births Mar 1868
DAVIES James Shrewsbury 6a 667

Births Jun 1868
DAVIES James Shrewsbury 6a 702


Have you got both certs? or could you of ordered the wrong one?


This is James with Father John, the railway guy..

1871 England Census
Name: James Davies
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Atcham

Annie Davies 30
Annie Davies 4
Daniel Davies 9
James Davies 3
John Davies 30
John Davies 7
Mary Ann Davies 9 months


......and this is James possible Father Joseph, Joseph is not listed but interestingly the wife is a Net Maker!

1871 England Census
Name: James Davies
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: St Chad
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Shrewsbury
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Atcham

Ann Davies 26
James Davies 4
Joseph Davies 8
Joseph Peplow 77


Have you got a birth cert from the children of James to establish the mothers name? If this corresponds to the marriage cert then i would suggest you need the other James's birth cert.


Tracey x

Well JJ

My first instinct would be you either have the wrng cert somewhere or that between his birth and his marriage his mother has remarried and it's his step father who is named on the marriage cert....

...let me see what i can find....


Nerine,

French records are a little left of centre for me.. but i'm def gonna give it a go !!

Tracey

Hi Anne

Is this your Ferdinand?

FERDIANDO MYERS

Birth:
Christening: 02 NOV 1823 Whicham, Cumberland, England

Parents:
Father: JOHN MYERS
Mother: MARY


Him in 1851...?

1851 England Census
Name: Fertinand Myers
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Whicham, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Bootle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Bootle
Sub registration district: Muncaster

Fertinand Myers 25
Hannah Myers 10 Mo
Jane Myers 23

Just changed the date of his birth, sorry my mistake.I should not answer the phone.

Dear Tracy,
How kind of you. Can you look up the birth of Ferdinand Myers b 1824 Whicham Cumberland and tell me who his parents were?. I think it was a John but I have no mother s name
Thank you very much
regards
Annie