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I thought the Saxilby name rang a bell. Slightly different spelling.

There's a marriage to of Sarah Ann Riley possibly to a William James Saxelby in 3rd Qtr 1884 in Sheffield.

What do you think?

This may also be a possibility

1901 England Census
about William H Riley
Name: William H Riley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Sheffield
Ecclesiastical parish: Netherthorpe Sheffield St Stephen
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: North Sheffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Cunningham 15 >>>>neice
Charlotte Gibson 35 >>>>housekeeper
William H Riley 39
Louisa Waring 19 >>>>neice


I'm going to look now to see if I can find any trace of Riley/Hallam marriages to tie in the Cunningham & Waring names just incase

Joy this is one that I think may be William

1901 England Census
about William H Riley
Name: William H Riley
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Wicker Holy Trinity
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: West Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Household Members: Name Age
William H Riley 39
George H Saxilby 7
Jane A Saxilby 15
Sarah A Saxilby 37
William Saxilby 4

Snap Joy

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Hi Joy

Are you sure that Wm Riley that you found in 1901 is yours?

The 1891 census says he is single but the 1901 census entry you mention says he has children ranging in age from 12 to 1.

I found one entry for 1901 for a Wlliam H Riley born Yorkshire as a boarder living in the same Ecclesiastical parish as he was living in in 1891 with his mother.

I think this is Wm Riley with the children in 1901 in 1891
Clara Riley 28
Geo Pearson Riley 2 >>>12 in 1901
Henry Riley 25
Jno Riley 6
John Riley 18
Mary Ann Riley 54
Thos Riley Riley 57
Wm Riley 27

Scrath the William I found inin 1901. I've just tracked him back to 1891 and he's married to a Clara as in 1901 son of a Thomas Riley.

Hi Chrisa

1901 Hannah is still in Brightside, Widowed. Living at 20 Osbourne Street. Living on her own means.

William, I think is written as Wm Riley in 1901 giving his birthplace as Sheffield..

Can't find Robert's death reg either.

Joy

Just checking do you have William in later census' or do you need more on him aswell.

Also just wondering where you found Hannah in 1901. (EDIT found her)

Got to do Taxi duty now for my Daughter.

I'll be back to see what you think & look for the girls.

Joy i think this might be him

1901 England Census
about Frank Hallam
Name: Frank Hallam
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Neepsend St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: West Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Hallam 31
Elizabeth Anne Walker 36
Mary Allie Walker 13


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4375; Folio: 67; Page: 3.

Going to double check now that this Frank doesn't appear any earlier.

EDIT Joy I think this is him. I've been back & checked 1881. There was only one Frank showing as born Yorkshire. In 1901 there are two the one above that I think is yours & the Frank showing in 1881 He is accounted for in 1901.

I'm still having trouble finding him in 1901.

I've just got excited thinking I had found him giving his place of birth as Keyworth Nottinghamshire but then checked back in 1881 & found a Francis O Hallam born Keyworth so I assume it's him.

I can't find a death either though.

Joy I think you may be right about Frank being in Wakefield prison in 1891.

There are threeFranks in 1881 born c1871.

One born Ripley......accounted for in 1891. 1901 wife Mary
One born Winshill....not accounted for in 91. Think this ones age was mistranscribed as 30 instead of 20 in 1891 & place of birth as Alfreton. 1901 birth year right..wife Jane birth Alfreton.
& your Frank born Chesterfield.....showing as Francis born Chesterfield in 91.


Ref for 1891 incase I need to look back on it

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3750; Folio 143; Page 6; GSU roll: 6098860.

Ok back again

Posting for ref

Name: Eliza Hallam Riley
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 537


Name: Sarah Ann Riley
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Chesterfield
County: Derbyshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 484



Name: Frank Riley
Year of Registration: 1871
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Basford
County: Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 100

No problem Joy I'll be back tomorrow to see what we can find.

Ok Chrisa

Thanks for the help. Still need help with:

Mary Jane Riley post 1881
Sarah Ann Riley post 1881
Frank Hallam (possibly) post 1891
Eliza Hallam Riley post 1871

I've been for a trawl through the Death indexes looking for a death for Eliza Hallam/Riley and found nothing.

Joy

Joy I have to log off now.

I'll look in tomorrow incase there was anyone else you wanted help with & I've missed them out.
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This is the only Joseph Riley marriage that came up on freeBMD between 1881 & 1891 with apossible spouse called Susan.

Marriages Dec 1883
Holgate Susanna Blackburn 8e 689
RILEY Joseph Blackburn 8e 689

I'm not too sure how far Blackburn is from Dewsbury.

One of the girls birth certs would confirm mothers maiden name to enable you to find definite marriage, then that cert would give you Josephs fathers name.
It's really the only way to be sure If he's yours.

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Joseph 1901 as mentioned above

1891 England Census
about Joseph Riley
Name: Joseph Riley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susan
Gender: Male
Where born: Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Dewsbury
Ecclesiastical parish: St John Baptist
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub registration district: Dewsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Clerisha Riley 1 >>>Clarissa
Clordie Riley 2 >>> Claudia
Joseph Riley 34
Susan Riley 31



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Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
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RILEY Claudia May Dewsbury 9b 619


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1890 (>99%)
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Riley Clarissa Dewsbury 9b 681

This one is the right age

1901 England Census
about George Ward
Name: George Ward
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Brightside Bierlow
Ecclesiastical parish: Pitsmoor Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Sheffield
Sub registration district: West Brightside
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Pamela Ward 5
Geo Albert Ward 7
George Ward 31
Harriet Ward 27


It may be worth getting the marriage cert to find out her fathers name

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
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Hallam Harriet Sheffield 9c 629

Ward George Sheffield 9c 629

1901 Census

Harriet Ward born c1874 Chesterfield, Derbyshire living in Brightside. Hubby's name George Ward.