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HI Pam

Thank you for the generous offer.

I have EDWARD SCHOFIELD b.1833 Ireland
Susanah (wife) Ireland
Edward b.1856 Ireland
Elizabeth b.1860 MALTA
James b1864 GIBRALTAR
Susan GIB
William IRELAND
and PETER JOHN b.JERSEY 1871

Not sure yet if he was born before or after the census ,but it seems that his father MUST be a MILITARY man, and I was hoping the family may appear on this census. ANY help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Hi Una
I'll gladly give it a go but can you just clarify the dates.

Were they born c1893 or should it read 1793? Or is it the other way round - they were born c1893 and married c1910, not 1810?

Also if you can give me some names and dates for the children it would help to verify that I have the right couple - assuming I can find them.
Pam

Edit
Forget all that I just found them in the 1841 so I've got a better idea of what I'm looking for

Hi Pam,

You kindly gave me valuable info. on my St Helier origins of the family yesterday ,& hope that you don't think that I have a cheek asking for your help again.

I have been trying for about 5 years to get further back on the LeCras & Coutanche family.

Thomas LeCras c.1893 & Marie Coutanche c.1893 were my 3Xgt.grandparents,but have been unable to find their marriage(probably between 1810-1815).

As the children were all born in St.Helier,I should imagine their marriage took place there as well.
Please could you tell me if their marriage would have any reference to their parentage, eg.fathers names which would help in further research.

I hope you don't mind me asking for your help again.

Regards,
Eunice

Pam, you are so kind, thank you so much.. i understand my grandmother only had older sisters (so that should eliminate a few too!) the names of her sisters were, Norah, Ivy, Margaret and Kathleen, but i dont know which of them were older than my grandmother and there may be others that i dont know!
Sorry thats not much help.
thank you again.
Sarah

Hello Sarah
There were 15 children born in St Helier with the surname Ryan in roughly the right time frame. When I get to the Registrars Office and get the exact date of their wedding I should be able to eliminate a few.
Keep you posted
Pam

Thanks for your reply Pam will try the website you suggest for Guernsey.

Wendy

Hello Pam

Just seen your thread. My husbands grandparents came from St Helier. Are you still available to do look ups,please. If so, would you be able to find the marriage of Ellen Hubert and George Francis Hamon, possibly just after the 1901 census. Ellen is living at home on the 1901 census.

If you are able to find our grandparents, would it be possible to have the number of their marriage certificate, please, so that we can send for it.

Many thanks

Sarah
So pleased that the information was what you were looking for.
When I get to the Registrars Office I can look up their marriage certificate and get all the details from it.
I've got to go back to the Archive tomorrow so I'll look for children then.
Pam

Pam
Thank you so much for looking that up for me.. I have searched the English records time and time again, and couldnt understand why i could not find them... but now i know!!
Would it be too much to ask if it would be possible to see if they had any children while they were in Jersey? My grandmother was born in Sunderland in 1894, so they had moved to England by then and i know she wasnt the eldest child. Do you know how and where I can apply to get a copy of the marriage certificate?
Thank you again, without your help I could never have got passed that dreaded brick wall.
kindest regards
Sarah

Wendy - sorry I can only do Jersey. Have a look at this website
www.societe.org.gg/sections/familyhistory.php
They may know someone who can help you

Pam

Pam are you able to look at Guernsey registers as well please.

Will check later for your reply before posting my request.

Kind regards Wendy

Hi pipsmum

The only Peter Breurd (btw I think that shoud be Brouard) that I can see in either the 1891 or 1901 was from Guernsey and unfortunately I do not have access to Guernsey records. If I'm missing him on the Jersey census point me in the right direction and I'll give it a go.

Pam

Sarah
Your couple, William Ryan and Elizabeth Paul did marry in Jersey. I haven't got the exact date yet as I have to go to another office to look that up. They are in the St Helier register that covers the period 1889 to 1893.
Unfortunately I may not be able to get to the Registry Office until next week so bear with me.

Pam



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Charles
This is very much a 'maybe' as the year of birth does not quite tie in with the later censuses.

31/10/1827 William Francois son of Philippe Jean Vincent and Francoise Dennison in St Helier

This fits with the 1841 census that I found.

I also found the marriage of the above couple but would you believe it I forgot to write it down as we had trouble reading the record and I got distracted, I do remember that the marriage was in St Peter and it said that Francoise was from St Helier which may not tie in with her being born in Dorchester.

I have only looked at St Peter and St Helier so far but I have to go back tomorrow so I'll plough on and see if there are any others who might fit the bill.

Regards Pam

Pam can you help find the birth of Peter Breurd born about1889. On the 1901 census he is living with my grandfathers family (John Brown) in Plymouth. On the previous census he was living with another family in St Helier. I would be grateful if you can give me any information about him to connect him to the family.

Hi Pam,

Thankyou so very very much.,you are a star

I have a strong suspicion that Marie LeCras could be the elder sister of my 2Xgt Grandmother Elizabeth LeCras 1817 St Helier,daughter of Thomas LeCras & Marie Coutanche.

Elizabeth had a younger sister Esther c.1825 who also married, around 1845, a John Ahier born approx..1824 Trinity.
Complicated family possibly 2 sisters marrying a John Ahier.!!!!!

A Harriet J Ahier was a witness on the MC of Elizabeth's illegitimate ? daughter Elizabeth Jane Much(c.1837) in 1864.So it all seems to tie the family together...

Thankyou once again,
Eunice

Hello Una
I have looked through Parish Records and this is what I have found - I think it is your family.
Baptisms
23/7/1837 Mary Rachel daughter of John Ahier and Marie Le Cras
17/4/1839 Harriet Jane - parents as above
28/3/1841 Jane Louisa - ditto

As the others were born after formal registration began I did not look them up as it means going somewhere else, but those seem to fit in pretty well with the information you already have.

I also found a marriage in the parish of St Clement between John Ahier and Marie Le Cras on 28/8/1836. The entry has an additional note which translates as 'in unusual circumstances' which has everyone at the Archive puzzled. It's not unusual to see that at a baptism when the child is not expected to live but no-one has ever seen it on a marriage entry before.

Hope this is the information you needed.

Pam

Hi Pam,

Thankyou for your kind offer

I am trying to find the maiden name of Mary Ahier c.1816 St Helier.
Husband was John Ahier c.1816 St Clements..occupation Sailmaker.

Children were:(all born St Helier)
Mary 1837
Harriet 1838
Jane 1841
John T. 1842/3
Elizabeth 1845/6
George 1846
Alfred 1849

Addresses were:
1841- 21, Parade Place St Helier

1851- Aubin Lane,St Helier..

Grateful thanks.
Eunice

Hello Pam
I have recently, when searching for something else, registered with Find My Past and in two censuses, 1881 and 1891, my grandfather, William Francis Vincent, is shown as born in Dorchester, whereas in 1871 he was shown as Jersey born. His wife is shown as born in Dorchester in 1835. Is it possible that the family came from Dorchester and that William Francis's mother (also born in Dorchester in 1802) was only visiting or staying in Jersey at the time of the birth? I am sorry if I have had you on a wrong thread.
Sincerely Charles

Thank's Pam,should have known that,
All the best Gill x