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Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 19:15

You are a wonderful woman. I know these two married each other and now I know when. The pieces are beginnng to ft. Thank you so much

Pat x

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 24 Apr 2008 19:13

Birth:

Births Jun 1887
Short Ellen Jane Monmouth 11a 27

Rose

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1891 Wales Census
about Emma Jones
Name: Emma Jones
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Benjamin
Gender: Female
Where born: Coleford, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Cwm Tillery
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales

Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Jones 26
Ellen Jones 4
Emma Jones 26
Wm A Jones 2

Rose

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So this is Ellen's parent's marriage?

Marriages Jun 1888
JONES Benjamin Monmouth 11a 40
Short Emma Monmouth 11a 40

Rose

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1841 but no parents listed:

1841 England Census
about Jane Bergam
Name: Jane Bergam
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Dean Forest
Hundred: St Briavells
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Ross
Sub registration district: Ross
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Bergam 5


Rose

Diane

Diane Report 24 Apr 2008 19:04

on freebmd there was only 2 Henry Short's showing up marrying a Jane , The other one was married in Sussex

Libby

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 19:04

Portland Rose

Ok. in 1910 census my grandmother Ellen Jones 14 was living with Elizabeth Keane and marked as grand-daughter. I have traced back that Ellens's mother was called Emma and her mother was Jane. Jane is older than Elizabeth Keane by 6 years and I now Jane died in 1900. I think Elizabeth was jane's sister and then reared Ellen as her 'grand-daughter' not her great niece.

Does this make sense toyou?

Pat

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To be sure you need to get Emma's birth cert. but it looks like Jane Burgham is her mother.

Births Mar 1865
Short Emma Monmouth 11a 18

Rose

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1871 England Census
about Emma Short
Name: Emma Short
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: West Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Joyford
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address:
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Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Household schedule number: 62
Household Members: Name Age
Emma Short 6
Henry Short 35
Henry Short 8
Hubert Short 4
Jane Short 34
Milton G Short 2
Thomas Short 11


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Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 18:57

Libby

Sounds good to me. Clever girl. How on earth did you find that so quic?

Pat

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1851 England Census
about Jane Burgham
Name: Jane Burgham
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: West Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: West Dean
Ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 5i
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 90
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Burgham 14
Mary Burgham 40
George Gwilliam 73

Rose

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 18:56

Portland Rose

They went on to have a daughter Emma and she had a daughter Ellen (my grangma)

Thanks a lot

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 24 Apr 2008 18:54

What does this mean?

"I am convinced that the lady calling herself my gg grandmother and Jane were sisters."

Rose

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 18:53

Portland Rose.

This is the lady concerned. Where do i go from here to find her maiden name?

any ideas?

Pat

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Which one of the children are you descended from?

Rose

Diane

Diane Report 24 Apr 2008 18:52

Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
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BURGHAM Jane Monmouth 11a 33
SHORT Henry Monmouth 11a 33


ANy good?

Libby

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1861 England Census
about Jane Short
Name: Jane Short
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: English Bicknor, Gloucestershire, England
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Coleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
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Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Short 25
Jane Short 24
Mary Jane Short 2
Sarah Ann Short 4
Thomas Short 1

Rose

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 18:51

i believe they lived at Joyford Hill Coleford Gloucester. I believe that to be monmouthshire but not sure whether it would come under Bedwellty

Patricia

Patricia Report 24 Apr 2008 18:49

she was born 1836 and died 1900

Diane

Diane Report 24 Apr 2008 18:48

Do you know in which area their married?

Libby