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You are a wonderful woman. I know these two married each other and now I know when. The pieces are beginnng to ft. Thank you so much

Pat x

The one you have in 1901 was born in Bryn Mawr so not the same.

1901 Wales Census
about Ellen Jones
Name: Ellen Jones
Age in 1901: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Bryn Mawr, Breconshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Ebbw Vale
Ecclesiastical parish: Beaufort St John
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Jones 14
William Jones 11
Eliza Keane 53
Eliza Keane 13
James Keane 78
Michael Keane 29
Michael Keane 21
Thos Wm Keane 16
William Keane 23


Rose

Many thanks guys. you've been brilliant

Pat

Did Emma die?

Deaths Dec 1900
Jones Emma 34 Bedwellty 11a

Rose

Looks like she did:

1901 Wales Census
about Ben Jones
Name: Ben Jones
Age in 1901: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Coleford, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Abertillery
Ecclesiastical parish: Abertillery St Michael
Town: Abertillery
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 274
Household Members: Name Age
Ben Jones 35 widower
Charles Hy Jones 8
Edith Elizabeth Jones 1
Mary Jane Jones 3
William Jones 12

Rose

This looks to be Ellen in 1901:

1901 Wales Census
about Ellen Jones
Name: Ellen Jones
Age in 1901: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Friend
Gender: Female
Where born: Coleford, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: Abertillery
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Abertillery
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 163
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Bird 17
Frank Cox 18
Ellen Jones 15
Ann Prince 37
Harry J Prince 4 months
Hy J Prince 30
Ethel Wallace 4
Ivor Wallace 10
Mary Wallace 6
Robert Wallace 3
Wm J Wallace 14

Rose

Pat,

Does this make sense? Or are you sure your Ellen is related to the Keane family?

Rose

Rose

When my mother was alive she used totell us that our fathers family came over from Ireland (according to him). In the 1910 census the Keane famly has relatves living with them from Limerc. That's why I thought to go down that road.

Pat

I'm worried that this is all wrong because we've been working forwards and not backwards. Who did Ellen marry?

Rose

Rose

on one of your entries the 1901 census from Brynmawr there is a James Keane listed as 73. Does it say who is head of house?

Ellen married my grandfather Pryce Powell. I have their wedding certificate. My father was Edmund born 1926

When did they marry and who did Ellen list as her father? What about the witnesses?

Rose

they married on 21st may 1907. Wlliam jones was one witness and Price Powell another (my g grandad)

Eliza is head of the house. James should be 18 not 78.

Rose

So no father is listed for Ellen?

Rose

Here's Ellen related to the Keane/Kane family in 1891:

1891 Wales Census
about Ellen Jones
Name: Ellen Jones
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Aberystruth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Ebbw Vale
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Bedwellty
Sub registration district: Aberystruth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Jones 4
James Jones 3
Mary Jones 23
William Jones 25
William Jones 1

Her mother is Mary Keane/Kane

Marriages Jun 1886
Jones William Bedwelty 11a 147
Keane Mary Bedwelty 11a 147

Mary in 1881

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James KANE Head M Male 42 Limerick Mason
Eliza KANE Wife M Female 36 Norfolk, England
Joseph KANE Son U Male 14 Norfolk, England Labourer
Mary KANE Daughter U Female 12 Limerick, Ireland Scholar
Michael KANE Son U Male 9 Limerick, Ireland Scholar
Timothy KANE Son U Male 7 Aberystruth, Monmouth, England Scholar
Robert KANE Son U Male 5 Aberystruth, Monmouth, England Scholar
Alice KANE Daughter U Female 2 Aberystruth, Monmouth, England
Mary KANE Mother W Female 60 Limerick, Ireland

Dwelling Pantysof Cottages
Census Place Aberystruth, Monmouth, Wales

Rose

Hi Rose

You have definitely hit the right note. I was barking up the wrong tree. Would you now if there is a way of viewing a birth and weddng certficate without sending for copies?

Pat

Hi Pat,

The only way to view the details is to send for the certs. Which ones do you need?

Rose

Hi Rose

I wanted to see Birth Certificate for Ellen Jones June 1986 or March 1987 ND THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OF mARY kEANE/kANE TO wILLIAM jONES bEDWELLTY 11A 147 jUNE 1886

rOSE, i CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH, YOU HAVE PPUT THE JIGSAW TOGETHER FOR ME. A GREAT HELP1 WHERE ARE YOU FROM?

pAT

Pat,

Ellen was born in Bryn Mawr so that's Crickhowell district.

Births Mar 1887
JONES Ellen Crickhowell 11b 97

Births Jun 1887
Jones Ellen Crickhowell 11b 117

Rose