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When did Ivy pass on then, as I said before I still have Frederick with a Linda there in 2005, wonder if he could have remarried. ??

he might have remarried but my aunt went to the local library and found out that they moved in 1987 from the above address.. thats why I am not sure about Frederick with the "Linda" because this means i have the wrong info and now i am just as baffled.

my aunt went to the address in jan this year and spoke to the current occupants and then saw an old man who knew my dad but had no forwarding address... sorry i didnt mention this before, it slipped my mind

thanks

ivy passed in 1987 according to the records, however the ivy long that was found on here died in 1994???!!

Do you have a rough year that Fred Long was born?

Am I right in thinking Ivy's maiden name was Key?

Selena

not sure on fred, but Ivy Lilian Long's
birth Date is 4 Nov 1919 according to records on here

david was born 28.05.61

dont know Ivy's maiden name

Sorry if I sound a bit thick but how do you know her birth date if you don't know her maiden name?

Selena

Just thinking aloud here, Ivy must have been 42 when she had David, but I think you said there were no other siblings.

Wondering if either Ivy or Fred had been married before?

Also it might be worth working sideways if you know what I mean.

For example, trying to find any possible brothers/sisters of Fred & Ivy, as David might have aunts, uncles and cousins out there who know of his whereabouts.

As I said, just thinking aloud here.

Selena

PS I was drawn to this thread as I have an ancestor Mary Long (1850's) who came from West Ham. She married into the New family in Greenwich. Mary's daughter Amy married and lived in Rotherhithe. So I was drawn to the Long and Rotherhithe connection.

Sorry that was so long winded.

because my aunt found looked through records of who lived at 58rotherhithe old rd in 1984 and their names came up, with David Long as their child.

to be honest its all very confusing for me, i dont really know how to look for any siblings of Ivy or fred, i dont think any records would show that unless I had their parents death/birth cert

okay here are the facts I know (not 100& but based on what I have been told by family inc my mother & the records for the address - we defently know is right)...

David Long - 28/05.08
Mother - Ivy L Long Name:
Father - Frederick W Long

lived at flat 58 Rotherhithe Old Road, Southwark, se16 2qd

my aunt suggests Ivy died in 1987 (When I was 3yrs) however records suggest 1994 which would make me 9/10yrs old.

David was a QPR fan, blonde hair aged roughly 21 when I was born in 1984

Have you got David's birth certificate yet? Does it give his mother's maiden name as Key?

Once you have David's mother's maiden name, then hopefully someone can find a marriage Fred/Ivy. Although I think someone already tried. Also, its possible (but no probable) that Ivy was her middle name, as people often swopped their 1st and 2nd names around.

A marriage certificate will give you Fred's and Ivy's fathers' names.

Then find Fred & Ivy's birth certs which will include mother's maiden names. Then you look for matches with that Surname and same mothers maiden name. Hope that makes sense.

no i decided to order a death cert first, but now realise that this is unlikely to be his mother (still has not arrived yet though)

my next move is to order davids cert but dont want to order it till I am more than 50% sure and right now I am feeling a little lost in all this info!!

eek.

No problem, can you add all the info to the thread when the certificate arrives.

Good luck and keep in touch on the thread,

Selena

Births Sep 1920
Key Ivy L
mother's maiden name Forwood
District Greenwich
1d 1907

Do you think they could have moved out the area???

Could David have been born later, i.e. 1963 if he was 21 when you were born?

This makes Ivy even older when she had David.

Thats what my deleted post said ....the dates dont match ......

Look I have a Fred Long and a David Long with Ann Long in another part of the country but live close together .................

Could they have moved out of London area

anythings possible at this stage.. he was 3 yrs older then my mum and my mum had me at 18 (in 1984)

my grandmother is definately not alive, my aunt says she died.