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Tony

Tony Report 3 May 2008 01:46

Sorry Kath been working the genealogy in Britain for so long and as I said its the first time I've been out of the country, I also thought they might sisters I will get a copy of the Bird marriage certificate and see is their names are the same
Tony

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 May 2008 01:34

Ann Bird, adoptive mother of Margaret Barry, in 1881:


Name: Ann Bird
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
>>> Where born: Canada


I wouldn't be surprised if she were Margaret's sister.


edit -- oops -- I see David said:

"Coincidentally the wife of John Bird on the 1881 census says her place of birth is North America."

And yes, the image actually says "British North America" (as in the British North America Act, 1867, our original constitution), which Ancestry has transcribed as "Canada".

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 3 May 2008 01:24

Tony -- here we are.

From the info you sent by PM, this is Edith in 1881. (You had completely confused me and I was looking in Canada!))


Name: Edith Barry
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation: Adapted Child (Child)
Gender: Female
Where born: Aldershot, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Northampton Priory St Andrew
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England

Street address: 73 Private House
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Northampton
Sub registration district: St Giles
ED, institution, or vessel: 29

Edith Barry 10
Ann Bird 47
John Bird 42
Anne Smith 2
Margarite Smith 6
Maude Smith 3
Minnie Smith 24


So ... you said:

I have my grandmothers wedding Cert. showing William Barry as the father (deceased) in the 1971 census shows he was married to Margaret born in Canada.


Name: Margaret Barry
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Canada
Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Name: William Barry
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Soldier
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: Farnham
Sub registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2nd Battalion 17th Regiment and Depot 1st Battalion 17th Regiment
Household schedule number: 1


for ref.

Tony

Tony Report 15 Apr 2008 09:36

I think it could be Ireland but not sure

Tony

Tony Report 15 Apr 2008 09:31

Thanks David you are on the money she had a son called Leslie and a Daughter will now look at the other possibilities
Tony

David

David Report 14 Apr 2008 11:50

In 1871 in Aldershot there was:

William Barry c1836 Ireland Private, 2nd Battalion 17th Regiment and Depot 1st Battalion
Margaret Barry c1837 Canada?

Deaths Dec 1871 Farnham 2a 49

Barry Margaret aged 34

Coincidentally the wife of John Bird on the 1881 census says her place of birth is North America.

Ediths first marriage was in Northampton.

David

David Report 14 Apr 2008 10:40

There is an Edith Watson c1872 Aldershot on the 1901 census in St Giles Northampton with a son Leslie c1900.

On the 1881 census there was an Edith Barry c1872 Aldershot an adopted daughter of the Bird family.

From freeBMD:

Births Sep 1871 Farnham 2a 95

Barry Edith

Aldershot is an Army town.

David

David Report 14 Apr 2008 10:14

Do you have any clue as to where Edith was born?

Tony

Tony Report 14 Apr 2008 10:03

My maternal grandmother Edith Barry born 1872 was married twice
first to Francis Watson 1898 Second Marriage to Dougald McPhail 1907. My line is from the second marriage.
I have both marriage certificates her father William Barry was, on
the second marriage shown 'deceased' Sergeant in the ? regiment
its looks like Colchestershire.
I have a very extensive family tree but can find very little about her
the only clues I have I think Irish ancestry is one
Any help would be appreciated