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Thomas Toner (1920)

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ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 22:30

Hi
Im wondering if anyone can help me, im looking for some information of my grt grandfather who died when i was very young.
His name was Thomas Toner, he was born 1920, and was born in Ireland. He married my grt grandmother Evelyn Wakeling in Sept 1947 (In the UK) He died 1968 in the UK.

I dont know where in Ireland he was born or what his parents names were, any details for him or his parents would be appreciated.

Sam

Sam Report 10 Apr 2008 22:33

How do you know he was born in Ireland? If you buy his UK marriage certificate, it will tell you his fathers name which will be a start.

Sam x

ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 22:38

Because my nan (his daughter) told me he was born in Ireland and that she doesnt think his parents ever moved to UK they always stayed in Ireland

My nan believes his fathers name may have been John but not 100%

I dont have his marriage record to be able to find his marriage certificate

Sam

Sam Report 10 Apr 2008 22:42

Where did they marry? If someone looks up the GRO reference for you, you can then send off for the marriage certificate.

Jill

Jill Report 10 Apr 2008 22:42

they married thurrock 4a 2247
july august sept quarter 1947

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 22:45

Wakeling/Toner marriage

Evelyn F. Wakeling
Thomas Toner
1947 quarter 3 (jly aug sept)
Thurrock
Volume 4a
Page 2247
======

If you want to buy a BMD cert, here
is the addy where you can buy it online..

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

(tip)Never pay more than £7
(another tip) for a marriage,you only need
put one partners name when ordering.

If you are ordering online from the GRO,
make sure that when the form asks
"Is the full GRO reference known?"
that you tick the "yes" box or you could pay more!

ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 22:46

thats the one thank you Jill

Can anyone advise how i go about searching for Irish records (ie for his family) because i have never had to search for Irish records before

Jill

Jill Report 10 Apr 2008 22:51

you could try
http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com

i think its a pay per view site.

like you ive never had to look at irish records

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 22:52

Ian

Have a look on the tips and records boards....

Theres a couple of members that offer help with Irish ancestry.

Gerri

ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 22:59

ok thanks, i shall try that.
im also looking for infomation on a UK relative, and wonder if anyone can help

Their name is Emily Jolly 1874, she later married William Leach, i think i have her on the 1901 census with my grt grt grandmother Agnes Mabel Leach, i have her birth record and her marriage record, but am missing her death record and her on any of the other census's can anyone help?

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 23:01

Copy n paste this into your addy bar Ian...It will take you to a thread started by INis....she does look ups for Ireland....

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1008224

Hope this helps

Gerri

Jill

Jill Report 10 Apr 2008 23:03

1881 could any of these be her where was she born/

Emily Jolly
Thomas,
Mary Jane abt 1874 Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter March, Cambridgeshire


Emily Jolly
Arthur,
Mary A. abt 1875 Stetchwoth Ley, Cambridgeshire, England Daughter Stetchworth, Cambridgeshire


Emily Jolly
Francis,
Elizabeth abt 1875 Camborne, Cornwall, England Daughter Camborne, Cornwall

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 23:04

For reference...

Marriages Sep 1891
Jolly Emily Huntingdon 3b 515
Leach William Henry Huntingdon 3b 515

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 23:06

To go backwards with Emily...you need to buy the Marriage cert (£7)

This will give you her Fathers name and occupation

ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 23:08

Thanks Gerri, i have just posted on one of her topics not the one you mentioned but another one that she has so hopefully she will be able to help

Jill, i dont know if it is any of those 3, she was born 1874 does that tie in with any of them? She married William Leach in 1891, and i believe she was born in Cambridgeshire, does this help?

Ok no worries Gerri i just thought there might be a chance of finding her on 1881 census, which should give her parents names

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 10 Apr 2008 23:13

Only birth showing on Ancestry is this one..

Emily Jane Jolly
Year of Registration: 1863
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Huntingdon
County: Huntingdonshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 230


..BUT!....

Theres also this one...

Emily Jolly
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newmarket (To 1938)
County: Cambridgeshire, Suffolk
Volume: 3b
Page: 539


You REALLY need that Marriage cert Ian!

ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 23:14

I just looked at the details i have of her on 1901 census and it looks like she was born Sutton Isle Ely Cambridgeshire, could someone check this census for me to check that is right as i have just scribbled it down and hope that i havent got muddled with one of her daughters, because the birth i have scribbled down says she was born Newmarket?!

Jill

Jill Report 10 Apr 2008 23:14

this is the 1881 but as Gerri says its a guessing game without knowing fathers name.


Name: Emily Jolly
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil Parish: March
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street address: Grandford Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Jolly 9
Emily Jolly 7
Henry Jolly 3
Mary Jane Jolly 29
Thomas Jolly 38


Jill

Jill Report 10 Apr 2008 23:15

1891
possible

Name: Emily Jolly
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Iste of Ely, Sutton

Civil Parish: Ramsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas and Beckett
Town: Ramsey
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Huntingdon
Sub-registration district: Ramsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Emily Jolly 17
Arthur Partridge 21
Elizabeth Patrick 63
Elizabeth A Patrick 25
George A Patrick 18
Joseph Patrick 49


ceri

ceri Report 10 Apr 2008 23:17

Ok thanks Gerri, i am thinking the earlier one might be her but if i am reading my scribbles right (and of course have the right person on the 1901 census) that says she was born 1874?!

My Grt Grt grandmother was Agnes Mabel Leach born 1898, Huntingdon, Cambridgeshire