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Thanks for the update Scobby, if you do as Christine suggests and get the marriage cert,this should also give his occupation and if he was in the army possibly his Army number .We may then find Army Records
You can order a cert. from this offical site
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ they cost £7 using the marriage details i posted

Hi Linda,

It looks as if that marriage in Chester is the correct one, so if you get that it will give both Henrietta and Williams ages and father's names.

Christine

hi spoke to stanley [stan]born 1925
his dad was william not alfred
married henritta artey
linda

Pleased that we have got somewhere at last, thanks to Janice finding John Gordon.

I still think you need to get the birth cert of Les 1923 to be sure of the parents names then perhaps we can find the marriage and work back from there.

Christine

thanyou for all you have done for me
spoke to helen gordon wife today she told me john was his first name
she also new each one of the family on the photo
cannot recall any middle names
as given me stan addrees going now will keap u informed of what i find thankyou linda

There was also the William HB Phillips registered in Bridlington Jun 1918 so I wonder if he belongs to them also.

Christine

Well done Janice, you're the same as me don't like to give up.

I think Linda is going to have to buy the birth cert of Leslie to find the parents names to be able to trace back further.

If all the names are from a photo as she said, maybe they are not all siblings but some cousins, you never know.

Christine

Leslie
Name: Leslie Phillips
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1923
Death Registration Month/Year: Mar 2003
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Register number: C15
Entry Number: 229
Birthn registered in the quarter after birth

Leslie
mmn Artley
Bridlington
vol 9b
page 666
June quarter 1923

Got one!!! the old story of people being known by their middle name
Looked for death in Stockton (Gordon as posted lived there)
foundName: John Gordon Phillips
Birth Date: 16 Jul 1927
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 2004
Age at death (estimated): 76
Registration district: Stockton
Inferred County: Durham
Register number: A15
Entry Number: 137
so looked for birth entry

John G
mmn Artley
Bridlington
volume 9d
page 576

sept quarter 1927

I think we are going to need some more facts to be able to get anywhere with this family.
You said your MIL was still alive, does she have a copy of her marriage cert to Les Phillips as that will give his father's name and occupation which would help.

See if you can find anything else out and then get back to us.

Christine

could be william and henrietta
my husband is named after both grandads who died before he was born name his gradads alfred and william one was rowntree/ one was phillips
linda

scobby please get back to us with anymore details of the siblings i.e do you know dates of birth not just years,any dates of death.Any marriage details -a childs marriage cert would confirm fathers name as we can only find William/Henrietta and not Alfred

Haven't had any luck finding a marriage, sorry

Christine

I'm about to go to bed now but will search the full indexes tomorrow to see if there is a Henrietta Artley marriage in Bridlington.

Christine

looks like 2 children of this couple
Name: Frances E Phillips
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Artley
District: Chester
County: Cheshire, Flintshire


Name: George E Phillips
Year of Registration: 1920
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Artley
District: Chester
County: Cheshire, Flintshire

I think that marriage is possibly a red herring as these births come up on free BMD for Phillips/Artley mmn


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page


Births Dec 1915 (>99%)
Phillips Frances E Artley Chester 8a 560


Births Jun 1918 (91%)
Phillips William H B Artley Bridlington 9d 534


Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Phillips George E Artley Chester 8a 843

I think that maybe the full indexes for Bridlington would need to be searched as they don't seem to have a high percentage transcribed.

It's still a mystery as none of the later born children have MMN Artley on the full indexes.

Christine

1901 misspelling of surname. Right area though
Name: Henrietta Hartley
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hunmanby, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hunmanby
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Hunmanby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Foster Hartley 55
Hannah Hartley 56
Henrietta Hartley 5
Henry Hartley 4
Mayer Hartley 15

Henrietta
birth index
Name: Henrietta Artley
Year of Registration: 1895
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bridlington (1837-1937)
County: Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 348

Have found this
Henrietta Artley marriage to ??William Phillips

volume 8a
page949
Chester
Dec quarter 1915

Hi Linda,

I don't know really know what else to suggest, maybe the children were all born in different areas and then they eventually settle in Hunmamby.

Are any of your husbands aunts or uncles still living, if so maybe they could help with some details.

Christine