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Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 28 Mar 2008 22:23

Is this him in 1871?1871 England Census
about Thomas Mansfield
Name: Thomas Mansfield
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary The Less
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Lambeth Church First
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Clowder 12
Emma Clowder 4
Harriet Clowder 1
Harry Clowder 13
Henry Clowder 33
Mary Clowder 30
Samuel Clowder 6
Thomas Clowder 8
Elizabeth Crawley 77
John Featherston 55
Mary Featherston 72
William Featherston 29
John G Hann 39
Mary Ann Hann 37
Sarah Herne 49
Sarah Herne 10
Edward Mansfield 8 lodger
Ellen Mansfield 42 Needlewoman lodger
George Mansfield 13 lodger
Thomas Mansfield 20 Potter lodger





Daz1

Daz1 Report 28 Mar 2008 21:38

Hi

I now have Thomas Mansfield and Eliza Youngs marriage cert which show they were married 17/05/1880 in Lambeth ages look like 29 and 24. He was a Potters Burner. I can find them in the 1881 census. But I can't find his birth. The certificate I ordered was for a Thomas Mansfield born 17/05/1853 in Lambeth - this would make him too young for the marraige cert I have.

I would be grateful if someone could check for me.

Thanks

Daz1

Daz1 Report 24 Mar 2008 19:35

I should have it in the next few days,

Karen

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 24 Mar 2008 18:19

Have you got a copy of Thomas & Eliza's Marriage Cert yet as this will show Thomas' father's occupation. It could be that you have the wrong birth certificate

Daz1

Daz1 Report 24 Mar 2008 16:49

I don't think this is the right one I know his son born abt 1881 Thomas J Mansfield died in 1917 and he had married an Eliza Young who was born in Plimico.

And from I'm told Thomas abt 1852 worked at the potteries in Lambeth?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 24 Mar 2008 15:47

I think that Thomas Mansfield b 1853 married Jane Wood in Jun qtr 1874 Lambeth rather than Eliza

1881 census
Name: Thomas Mansfield
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 1 Russell Gards
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Fishmonger

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Mansfield 38
Thomas Mansfield 29
Thomas Mansfield 6
William Wood 16

Catherine

Daz1

Daz1 Report 23 Mar 2008 21:55

Catherine

The date is 17 May 1853

karen

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Mar 2008 18:49

Karen

What date of birth is the certificate?

Daz1

Daz1 Report 22 Mar 2008 20:09

Yes that's the name I have on the birth certificate - perhaps the 1871 census I have pulled is the wrong one. I'll re check that.
I have only recently started doing family trees and so far I've been lucky on what I've been searching eveythings checked out - this one has just confused me - thankyou for helping me.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Mar 2008 19:40

Karen the only Thomas Mansfield I can find born Lambeth between 1850-1855 is in Jun qtr Jun 1853 Vol 1d Page 1853.

I've also found the following marriage in Dec qtr 1847 Newington Vol 4 Page 417

Mansfield Thomas
Mackendret Elizabeth

Daz1

Daz1 Report 22 Mar 2008 19:29

I'm not sure. This Thomas age 7 may be slightly too old and is born in Brixham - I may have requested his birth certificate!! or this may be the correct one and I have all the wrong census!!! What is soo confusing is that around the time my Thomas Mansfield was born in Lambeth there were lots of other Thomas Mansfields born as well!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 22 Mar 2008 19:16

Karen this is from the 1861 census; do you think this is the family you are looking for?

Name: Thomas Mansfield
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: City Read London

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Brixton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlotte Mansfield 10 Mo
Elizabeth Mansfield 32
Elizabeth Mansfield 10
Henry Mansfield 6
John Mansfield 4
Merghan Mansfield 3
Thomas Mansfield 36 occupation Green Grocer
Thomas Mansfield 7

Catherine

Daz1

Daz1 Report 22 Mar 2008 18:36

Could someone please check for me that I have the correct Mansfield? I have just received a birth cert and it states the mother is Elizabeth. I have her on the census as Ellen. I have I think traced her through her children going back from 1901.

1901 - Thomas Mansfield born abt 1852 Lambeth wife Eliza abt 1856 + children Eliza, Fred and Thomas.
1891 – Thomas age 30 and Eliza age 35 + children Thomas and Eliza
1881 – Thomas Mansfield age 30 and Eliza age 24 (waiting for Marraige Cert)
Then 1871:
Ellen Mansfield abt 1829 with children Thomas age 20 abt 1851 and brother George abt 1858 but no father. Thomas’s birth cert says mother Elizabeth nee Mackendret (looks like)father Thomas Mansfield (Greengrocer)