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I need a bit of help and advice this is very odd.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Dec 2024 15:47

Have tried to coax Maggie to return..............to no avail

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Dec 2024 14:52

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
6, Havelock Road, South Hackney, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England

John Perry Head Married Male 40 1821 Superinted engineer machs Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Louisa Perry Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Covent Garden, Middlesex, England
Mary S Perry Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Emily Perry Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Middlesex, England
Alice P Perry Daughter - Female 3 1858 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Matilda Ivison Visitor Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Islington, Middlesex, England

Emily was the daughter of John Perry and Matilda Ivison - as per her baptism at the age of 19 in 1875

Name Emily Louisa Perry
Baptism Date 11 Jul 1875
Baptism Place Potterne, Wiltshire, England
Father John Perry.....................described as a 'Gentleman'!!
Mother Matilda Smison

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Dec 2024 14:46

Name Mary Sarah Sissons Perry
Gender Female
Marriage Age 27
Birth Date abt 1849
Marriage or Bann Date 25 Apr 1876
Marriage or Bann Place Marlborough, St Peter and St Paul, Wiltshire
Father John Perry
Spouse John Biggs Banks
Father George Banks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Dec 2024 12:45

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Castle Inn, New Park Street, St Mary, Devizes, Wiltshire, England

William Grace Head Married Male 64 1787 Innkeeper employing 11 men Everleigh, Wiltshire, England
Sarah Grace Wife Married Female 59 1792 - Upavon, Wiltshire, England
Mary Perry Niece - Female 2 1849 - Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Elizabeth Chandler Servant Unmarried Female 33 1818 Bar maid Wilcot, Wiltshire, England
Jane Henley Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 House chambermaid Bromham, Wiltshire, England
Emma Mead Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Cook Potterne, Wiltshire, England
Mary Wiltshire Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 Kitchen maid Stert, Wiltshire, England
Charles Withers Servant Unmarried Male 22 1829 Waiter Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Thomas Simmons Servant Unmarried Male 20 1831 Ostler Devizes, Wiltshire, England

Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%)
CHANDLER Sarah Devizes 8 425 ****NB.......not Chamberlin
GRACE William Devizes 8 425


PERRY, MARY SARAH SISSONS MASLEN
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS Volume 08 Page 325
First name(s) Mary Sarah Sissons
Residence Devizes St John
Last name Perry
Place Devizes, St John the Baptist
Birth year 1848
County Wiltshire
Birth date 30 Aug 1848
Country England
Baptism year 1848
Record type Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 06 Oct 1848
Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917
Father's first name(s) John
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's last name Perry
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's occupation Grocer
Collections from England, Great Britain
Mother's first name(s) Louisa

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Newpark Street, St Mary the Virgin, Devizes, Wiltshire, England
William Grace Male 50 1791 Wiltshire, England
Sarah Grace Female 50 1791 Wiltshire, England
Dennis Grace Female 52 1789 Wiltshire, England
Mary Greenland Female 20 1821 Wiltshire, England
William Hapgood Male 25 1816 Wiltshire, England
Charles Withers Male 14 1827 Wiltshire, England
John Wantner Male 45 1796 Wiltshire, England
Louisa Maslen Female 18 1823 Wiltshire, England
Louisa Bowden Female 26 1815 Wiltshire, England
Alexander Cole Male 21 1820 Wiltshire, England
Hannah Willis Female 20 1821 Wiltshire, England
Rhoda Wiltshire Female 15 1826 Wiltshire, England
James Maslen Male 25 1816 Wiltshire, England
Harry Smith Male 17 1824 Wiltshire, England
William Florris Male 30 1811 Wiltshire, England

GRACE, SARAH 60
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS Volume 08 Page 243

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Dec 2024 11:51

First name(s) Louisa Elizabeth
Spouse's marital status B
Last name Maslen
Spouse's residence Devizes St John
Age Full
Spouse's occupation Grocer
Birth year -
Father's name George Maslen************************
Marital status S
Father's occupation Grocer
Residence Devizes St John
Spouse's father's name William Perry
Marriage year 1846
Spouse's father's occupation Farmer
Marriage date 19 Sep 1846
Witness 1 Jas Chandler****************************
Place Devizes, St John the Baptist
Witness 2 Caroline Thorpe
County Wiltshire
Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933
Country England
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's first name(s) Johns
Spouse's last name Perry
Collections from England, Great Britain
Spouse's age Full

Name Louisa Elizabeth Perry
Age 69
Estimated Birth Year abt 1824
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place Wallingford, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Death Date Mar 1893
Volume 2c
Page 220

1881 census
Name Louisa E. Perry
Age 59
Estimated Birth Year abt 1822
Relationship to Head Servant
Gender Female
Where born London, Middlesex, England
Civil parish Shaw cum Donnington
County/Island Berkshire
Country England
Street Address Honey Bottom
Marital Status Widow
Occupation Servant
Registration district Newbury
ED, institution, or vessel 13
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 1272
Folio 89
Page number 8
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
John B. Banks 34 Head
Mary S.S. Banks 32 Wife
George S. Banks 3 Son
John W. Banks Son
Louisa E. Perry 59 Servant
Ann Crook 21 Servant

In 1891, she was a patient in the asylum at Cholsey, birthplace 'not known'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 19:41

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Brittox, St John, Devizes, Wiltshire, England

Sarah Maslen Head Unmarried Female 19 1832 Milliner London, Middlesex, England
Louisa Perry Sister Married Female 27 1824 Milliner London, Middlesex, England
Sarah Holloway Apprentice Unmarried Female 18 1833 Milliner Wroughton, Wiltshire, England
Georgina Orchard Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 House maid Potterne, Wiltshire, England




For some idea of DATES………………

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 18:57

Sarah Maslin married Richard Sissons in Rotherhithe 03/12/1822

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Dec 2024 18:00

The post is actually 16 years old ;-) ;-)

If you would like members to try to help you, dates are essential

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 18 Dec 2024 17:56

Welcome to the boards.
G83/Alexandra is still a member of Genes so you can click on her name and send her a pm. If she has kept her details up to date then she will get a notification from Genes. Genes do not notify of additions to threads,

You could also look at Search/ search all members trees to see if anyone else has the family in their trees.

London records are pretty good so I’m a bit surprised you haven’t found the birth. As she seems confused where she was born havevyou found any possibilities at all and have you followed the parents through possible moves.

Maggie

Maggie Report 18 Dec 2024 17:20

This post is from six years ago but I’m just hoping someone might see this link.
I am linked to the Maslin’s of Rotherhithe
Sarah Maslin married Richard Sissons whose home was Yorkshire but had links to Rotherhithe. He is registered as a gentleman in his will.
I think the marriage was around the late 1820s.
My great great grandmother Louisa Elizabeth Maslin who later married John Perry of Devizes ,was living with Sarah Maslin who married Richard Sissons and they moved to Yorkshire until Louisa was about thirteen.
Amongst them is a Jane Maslin and I believe she is Louisa’s sister.
Louisa had a younger sister named Sarah and she went to live with Jane and her husband George Evitt. This was London too.
Whilst reading through these notes I have an idea that there may have been a Maslin family linked to a Plank family in Potterne which is a village outside Devizes.
Maslin is a Wiltshire name.
Sarah the elder returns to Devizes and takes Louisa with her she marries again to Richard Chamberlin. He dies within a year and Sarah marries for the third time to William and they manage The Castle Hotel in Devizes ( I doubt if they own it)
There was a lot of money involved and there are hundreds of pages of letters and documents involving the Maslin’s ,Perrys and Banks families.
I’m still not totally certain where Louisa Elizabeth Maslin later marrying John Perry in Devizes is from.
She seems to be linked to Rotherhithe Maslin’s and although she states that her birth is Covent Garden ,there is no evidence.
Anyone reading this can think of a link ?
Thank you.

Ajwyorks

Ajwyorks Report 21 Mar 2008 20:58

There is no mention of Devizes on any of the censuses and I think this is the family in 1861

William Maslin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Walworth

Civil Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 351
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Maslin 23
Elizabeth Maslin 3 Mo
William Maslin 26

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 320; Folio: 143; Page: 62; GSU roll: 542614.

Andy

Ivy

Ivy Report 21 Mar 2008 20:28

HI Alexandra,

- I think this is the 1871 census info (as you say, William a little older):

Rotherhithe, Surrey

Eliza Maslin m Wm abt 1837 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Wife

Elizabeth Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1860 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter

Jane Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1862 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter

Wm Maslin m Eliza abt 1834 Newington, Surrey, England Head

George Maslin s of Wm, Eliza abt 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son

Henry Maslin Wm, Eliza abt 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son

John Maslin s of Wm, Eliza abt 1866 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son

Susan Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1869 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Daughter

This census has no mention of Devises or Wiltshire, but if the birth certificate says the mother's maiden name is Plank, then the certificate is more likely to lead you to the correct parents than the census - each enumerator had to deal with huge volumes of info.

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 19:19

thank you all, the lady has the same children, same children places of birth although the dates are out by like 1 year or so, and she has the children marrying into other families as i have.
altho she has william born a few years before i have him and in a different area.
She said she got the info from the cenus.

Christopher

Christopher Report 21 Mar 2008 18:44

Yes, go with your instincts and the proof you have.

I looked at a tree I was allowed to see on here last week, it's wrong, the woman in question was married and her sister was living with them. That was probably where the surname has taken from. Unfortunately, if you go back to the 1841 census and the marriage indexes, she is a half sister. The father of the woman in question had died, leaving her mother a widow, the step father was living with his parents. They married after 1841 and had more children.

If you are sure you are correct and have all the evidence to prove it, stick to your guns.

Chris

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 17:38

can anyone help?

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 10:26

the lady hasnt got any i dont think but im sure i have susans somewhere and thats where i got the info from im sure but they are in the loft as thats an area i had finished with on the tree at the moment.
I thought perhaps check the marriage index again the ref was married Devizes dec 1862 5a 223

Wild Cat

Wild Cat Report 21 Mar 2008 10:23

Just a thought but have either of you got birth cert for Charles 1880

G83

G83 Report 21 Mar 2008 10:19

Hi all for a while now i have had a relation in my family tree which i now believe may be incorrect.
I have a William Maslin 1842 marrying a Elizabeth Plank b1839 married 1862 having children Jane 1862, Henry 1864, George 1864, susan 1869, hannah 1874, david 1876, Eliza 1878, and charles 1880. mum and dad william / elizabeth born devizes wiltshire and the children in london areas. However i have found a connection on this site and that lady has a different mother / wife to william and these children.
I dont know what is right or wrong here as im sure i have the right info. Any ideas or can anyone help in anyway?

thank you