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Strange details on a marriage certificate

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maryjane-sue

maryjane-sue Report 1 Mar 2008 22:47

Was the "father's" occupation given on the marriage certificate?

Rachel

Rachel Report 1 Mar 2008 22:46

Hi,

Thank you for your replies. I think that you Ivy, have found Charles as a child as the place of residence at the time of marriage was Eccleston. Can you please let me know the census information for Edward and Charles Johnson?

I am not sure how I would go about viewing the marriage register as I live in Devon; and already have the marriage certificate, so am not sure what else I would gain from viewing the marriage register from the church where the marriage took place.

Regards

Rachel

Ann

Ann Report 1 Mar 2008 22:44

Does the certificate show that Charles signed it or did he 'make his mark'? If he couldn't read it's possible the registrar misheard the name and Charles was unable to spot the mistake.

Ivy

Ivy Report 1 Mar 2008 22:40

1881 for ref?

Name: Charles Johnson
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Widnes
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 5 Pepper St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Iron Foundry Striker Manuf

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 19

Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Johnson 25
Mary Ellen Johnson 4
Matilda Johnson 25
Sarah Johnson
Thomas Henry Johnson 6

Ivy

Ivy Report 1 Mar 2008 22:38

There is a Charles son of Edward in Eccleston in 1871. Could this be your relative? If so, is it possible that Edward was shortened to Edw and then mistranscribed along the line - the two strokes of the "d" as "ll" and the "w" as "en"?

Is it possible to view the marriage register for the church etc where the marriage took place?

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 1 Mar 2008 22:37

Base-born is the term used for an illegitimate child.

Rachel

Rachel Report 1 Mar 2008 22:34

Sorry, do not know what you mean by 'base-born.'

Charles Johnson married Matilda Hill in 1872 full age. Ellen Johnson was his father on the marriage certificate. Charles' occupation was a labourer and lived in Eccleston, Lancashire.

I would really like to find Charles as a child so that I can obtain his birth certificate; however, I have found it really hard trying to find Charles on any census prior to 1881 (which is when he appears with Matilda and a few children)

All help is gratefully received.

Regards

Rachel

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Mar 2008 22:31

Could look for a birth index to get the certificate for parents name

jansmith

jansmith Report 1 Mar 2008 22:28

When was the marriage would the family be on a census?

maryjane-sue

maryjane-sue Report 1 Mar 2008 22:28

The person was base-born maybe?

Rachel

Rachel Report 1 Mar 2008 22:12

Hello,

Just wondering why the name of the father on the marriage certificate would be that of the mother? I have a marriage certificate which states that the father is Ellen Johnson (a woman's name) on the marriage certificate. Anyone got any reason why this would happen?.

Any suggestions as to how to proceed will be gratefully received.

Regards

Rachel