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Lorraine
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20 Feb 2008 13:47 |
Could anyone help with a birth for Mary Ann Rouse b1794c South Walsham. I've tried the IGI site which has a few possibilities but I doubt they are the right ones. I was hoping to find one with the parents names of Israel Rouse & Sarah.
Thanks Lorraine
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Lorraine
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20 Feb 2008 18:27 |
nudge
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val1963
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20 Feb 2008 21:10 |
Lorraine could these be siblings
Elizabeth Rous Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 18 MAY 1800 , Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Israel Rous Family Mother: Sarah
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Happy Rous Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 17 DEC 1798 , Norfolk, England Death: Burial:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Israel Rous Family Mother: Sarah
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Ozibird
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20 Feb 2008 21:37 |
I know these aren't extracted from the parish records, but this one looks as if it has been looked up.
Notice this is after when you think Mary Ann may have been born.
IGI Individual Record Israel Rouse Marriages: Spouse: Sarah Lane Marriage: 22 JAN 1796 , Norfolk, England
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Lorraine
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20 Feb 2008 22:41 |
Thanks Valerie & Ozbird.
They are possible family. I'm actually looking for Kerenhappuch (Happy) Rouse born in Beccles 1801c. Someone gave me possible birth details of her the other day and it stated her parents as Israel & Sarah. I think it's a different entry to the one above. I know of a definite sister Mary Ann for her so thought if I could find her birth with same parents it would confirm I had the right one.
Lorraine
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1 Sep 2017 23:12 |
Hi there, I know this is years on since you've posted, but were hunting for my husbands family. Mary Ann was the wife of a German Soldier buried in Pakefield Suffolk. We know they are related somehow but are trying to put it altogether! Happy was also her sister.
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1 Sep 2017 23:51 |
you may not get a reply because this is 9yrs old try sending a message by clicking on Lorraine's name
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ArgyllGran
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2 Sep 2017 13:02 |
Welcome to the boards, Elizabeth (aka Unknown).
Would you like us to try to help?
A tree on Ancestry says Happy was Mary Ann's half-sister - though doesn't give details of any parents.
You've probably got all this below, but I'll post it just in case you haven't.
Happy was born c1802-3, if her death cert is correct:
BUTTON, HAPPY 67 GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in WOODBRIDGE Volume 04A Page 424
She married Henry Button in 1823.
Keer Happy Rouse in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Keer Happy Rouse Gender: Female Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1823 Marriage Place: Saint Mary,Woodbridge,Suffolk,England Spouse: Henry Button FHL Film Number: 0919637, 0919638
1841 census says she was born Suffolk c1801; 1851 says Beccles, Suffolk c1802; 1861 says Beccles c1810.
1851 & 1861, she's living with her "sister" Mary Ann. In both censuses Mary Ann is listed as born South Walsham, Norfolk c1794.
In 1871 and 1881 Mary Ann's living with her nephew Jacob Button and his wife, in Woodbridge. She died 1884.
This might be Mary Ann's baptism - so maybe same father as the baptisms posted earlier in this thread, but different mother?
Mary Ann Roas in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Mary Ann Roas Gender: Female Baptism Date: 13 Jul 1793 Baptism Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England Father: Israel Roas Mother: Mary Lane FHL Film Number: 1526723
Is Mary Lane related to Israel's wife Sarah Lane ??
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ArgyllGran
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2 Sep 2017 13:12 |
For reference:
Mary Ann Schultze in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Ann Schultze Age: 67 Estimated birth year: 1794 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: South Walsham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Pakefield Town: Pakefield County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Mutford Sub-registration district: Kessingland ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 40 Piece: 1186 Folio: 90 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Schultze 67 Keren Happuch Button 51
Mary Ann Schultze in the 1851 England Census Name: Mary Ann Schultze Age: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1794 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Leopold Schultze Gender: Female Where born: South Walsham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Southwold Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Blything Sub-registration district: Westleton ED, institution, or vessel: 12c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 27 Piece: 1803 Folio: 845 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Leopold Schultze 69 Mary Ann Schultze 57 Happy Button 49 Julius Wittenburg 26
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ArgyllGran
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2 Sep 2017 13:20 |
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Israel Rouse England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Israel Rouse Event Type Death Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1848 Registration District Blything County Suffolk Event Place Blything, Suffolk, England Volume 13 Page 287 Line Number 49
ROUSE, ISRAEL 95 GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in BLYTHING UNION Volume 13 Page 287
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ArgyllGran
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2 Sep 2017 13:29 |
A sibling of Mary Ann ??
Susannah Rous England Births and Christenings Name Susannah Rous Gender Female Christening Date 22 Nov 1795 Christening Date (Original) 22 NOV 1795 Christening Place Norfolk, England Father's Name Israel Rous Mother's Name Mary
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England Deaths and Burials Name Mary Gender Female Burial Date 18 Dec 1795 Burial Place Norfolk, England Marital Status Married Spouse's Name Israel Rous
Given that date of death (assuming he's the right Israel), maybe he married Mary's sister after Mary's death ?? (And moved to Suffolk ??)
Lots of supposition, I know!
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Unknown
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6 Sep 2017 22:25 |
Goodness, this is getting complicated! My husbands great grandfather was a Leopold (Leo) Schultze Marsland, b. 1864, his mother was another Mary Ann- Marsland (married name, wondering if she was a Rous?) born in Corton in 1834? My husband was told, when a child, that he was related to the German soldier buried in Pakefield churchyard, Leopold Sigismund Schultze. The German name seems to have been made a middle name, there a several Mary Ann's, they are several Happys (Kerenhappuch?) lots of the above information fits what we've got so far, but I just can't find the actual link between the soldier b. 1782 in Hanover, and the next Leopold b. 1864 in Chesterfield!
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Chris Ho :)
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7 Sep 2017 07:28 |
Burial County Suffolk Place Pakefield Church name All Saints and St Margaret Register type Parish Register Register entry number 402 Burial date 05 Aug 1857 Person age 75 Burial person forename Leopold Sigismund Burial person surname SCHULTZE Burial person abode Pakefield Register note Performed by John Rumpp - Rector
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(from above link)
Chris :)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C13321931
Name: Leopold Sigismund Schultze. Rank: Cornet to Lieutenant. Regiments: 1st Battalion Hussars King's German Legion
02 July 1870 - The Suffolk Chronicle; or Weekly General Advertiser &
WOODBRIDGE CEMETERY. Interments during the month ending June 30th Happy Button 67 St. Mary. June 1st.
(a reference below)
County Norfolk Place Moulton Church name St Mary Register type Parish Register Register entry number 43 Marriage date 22 Jan 1796 Groom forename Isreal Groom surname ROUSE Groom condition bachelor Bride forename Sarah Bride surname LANE Bride condition spinster Witness Edwd BOULT Witness Antho. ATKINSON Register note Licence. Bride, groom signed by mark.
Burial County Norfolk Place Moulton Church name St Mary Register type Parish Register Burial date 10 May 1796 Person age 24 Burial person forename Mary Burial person surname ROUS Relationship wife of Male relative forename Israel Relative surname ROUS
Baptism County Norfolk Place Moulton Church name St Mary Register type Archdeacon's Transcripts Baptism date 17 Dec 1798 Birth date 05 Dec 1798 Person forename Happy Person sex F Father forename Israel Father surname ROUS
(FMP also has Norfolk Baptisms for below)
Rouse Mary Anne 1793 — 1793 Norfolk Bishop's Transcripts Baptisms North Walsham, Norfolk, England (Parents Robert & Anne)
Rows Mary Ann — — 1793 Norfolk Baptisms South Walsham, St Lawrence with St Mary, Norfolk, England (Parents Israel & Mary his wife, late Mary Lane)
Birth MARSLAND, LEOPOLD SCHULTVE (ROUSE) GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in CHESTERFIELD UNION IN THE COUNTY OF DERBY
Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) LEOPOLD SCHULTNER Last name MARSLAND Birth year 1864 Place CHESTERFIELD Reference CHB/43/162 Register office Chesterfield
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