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Thank you to both of you for the above. Agreed that automatic notification is not given, and indeed it took me a few days to find out about your replies. Appreciated, and this now gives me a good avenue to continue looking. Paul

Florence Ada Isherwood
Birth Date: 30 May 1863
Baptism Date: 15 Jul 1863
Baptism Place: St Helier, Jersey
Mother: Mary Judith Isherwood

The baptism (from Ancestry) has her as the illegitimate daughter, but names her parents as Mary Judith Isherwood and James Frederick Isherwood.

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There is a baptism for a Mary Judith Isherwood and another for a James Frederick Isherwood in the 1840's, and later separate marriages.

Nina's marriage certificate from Lewisham, 1912, describes her Father as a naval officer.

This might be her Mother's death:

Deaths Dec 1893
Murrow Ada 30 S. Stoneham 2c 55

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Albion Hotel, Freshwater Bay, Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England

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Thomas Murrow Head Married Male 43 1818 Hotel Keeper -
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Mary Murrow Wife Married Female 25 1836 - Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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Eliza A Murrow Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 - Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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Thomas H Murrow Son Unmarried Male 11 1850 Scholar Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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William Frankland Boarder Unmarried Male 23 1838 Licensed R Engineers Sussex, England
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Francis Shockwey Boarder Married Male 28 1833 Clergymen M A Without Care Of Souls Chelsea, Middlesex, England
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Louisa C Shockwey Boarder - Female 30 1831 - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
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Ann Cole Servant Unmarried Female 20 1841 Cook Hampshire, England
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Mary Butcher Servant - Female 51 1810 Upholsteress Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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Harriet Sutton Servant Married Female 19 1842 House Maid Brixton, Hampshire, England
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Sarah A Udelle Servant Unmarried Female 22 1839 House Maid St Mary Cray, Kent, England
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Mary J Mey Servant Unmarried Female 25 1836 House Maid -
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William Smith Servant Unmarried Male 60 1801 Labourer Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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John Starks Servant Unmarried Male 24 1837 Groom Freshwater, Hampshire, England


mary murrow is 36 not 25

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Crown Tavern, French Street, Southampton, Hampshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Slace Head Married Male 70 1821 Publican Newhaven, Sussex, England
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Esther Slace Wife Married Female 65 1826 Publican Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales
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Alfred Barnes Lodger Widower Male 28 1863 Wireman Wigan, Lancashire, England
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Louis Covey Lodger Single Male 26 1865 Stoker Southampton, Hampshire, England
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Robert Covey Lodger Single Male 18 1873 Laborer Southampton, Hampshire, England
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Henry Smith Lodger Single Male 18 1873 Private Royal Artillery Woolwich, Kent, England
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Thomas Murrow Lodger Married Male 41 1850 Mariner Freshwater, Hampshire, England
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May Spencer Servant Single Female 16 1875 Domestic Servant Bartley, Hampshire, England

Here's Nina May with her mother and a brother.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Kent Road, Millbrook, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Florence Ada Murrow Head Married Female 29 1862 - Jersey, Channel Islands
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Nina May Murrow Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Southampton, Hampshire, England
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John William Murrow Son - Male 0 1891 - Freemantle, Hampshire, England

Free bmd has this birth for Thomas:
Births Sep 1849
Murrow Thomas Hill I. of Wight 8 193

so probably this death:
Deaths Jun 1891
Murrow Thomas Hill 41 S. Stoneham 2c 48

and Ancestry gives this master and mates certificate:
Thomas Hitt Murrow
[Thomas Hill Murrow]
Estimated Age: 22
Birth Date: 1849
Birth Place: Freshwater, Hants
Issue Date: 24 Feb 1871
Issue Port: London
Certificate Number: 3350

Paul.

As this is an old post and Kate might not be monitoring the boards for any new information, you would be better to email her directly to make contact.

People are not usually notified of any new postings, but will be told of a new email - if they have kept the same email address.

Just to add - if this is Nina Mat Murrow's birth, then the certificate should give her Father's name:
Births Mar 1884
Murrow Nina May Southampton 2c 29

this from GRO

MURROW, NINA MAY mmn ISHERWOOD
GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 29

so this marriage
Marriages Dec 1882
ISHERWOOD Florence Ada Southampton 2c 15
MURROW Thomas Hill Southampton 2c 15

Hi Kate. I'm now interested in this thread; have you had any more information in the last few years, since you wrotye this, about the Murrow line? I'm interested in if Thomas's son, Thomas Hill Murrow (b. C1847) married; I have a line on his descendants, but cant make this link to a marriage. I believe he was a seafarer of some description. His daughter may have been Nina May Murrow (b. c1885), and she is recorded later in the census as either a ward, or as an orphan, which may align if he was at sea constantly, and/or the mother (u/k at this time) was absent/deceased. Any assistance you can give would be really helpful. Paul

Wow thanks Jayne and Carole for such a quick response. I appreciate the info. Regards, Kate

hi kate

according to free bdm it was mary groves and they are the only two who were married in this quarter with number


here they are on the 51

David Adams 15 post boy
Mary Legg 15 servant
Harriett Mitchell 29 cook
Mary Murrow 27 wife iow freshwater
Thomas Murrow 33 head inn keeper Tenby, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Walter J Way 22 visitor

in 81 thomas is down with wife maria


kind regards

carole

Here's the IOW marriage - but she's down as Mary Groves. Looks like the registrar incorrectly recorded him as MARROW first then re-entered MURROW (often happened)


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
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Groves Mary I of Wight 8 377
Marrow Thomas I. of Wight 8 377
Murrow Thomas I of Wight 8 377

Presumably you have them in the 1881 census?......


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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Thomas MURROW Head M Male 64 Tenby, Pembroke, Wales Retired Property
Maria MURROW Wife M Female 66 Yarmouth, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Thomas MURROW Son U Male 33 Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Seaman
Francis BENNETT Servant U Female 18 Spring Vale, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Servant (Domestic)
William SMITH Servant U Male 75 Freshwater, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England General Laborer


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Source Information:
Dwelling The Glen
Census Place Freshwater, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341290
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1188 / 55
Page Number 15

I am trying to find the maiden name of his wife Maria. They were married in the Isle of Wight in June 1846 and had two children as far as I know, Eliza and Thomas. I have no infomation on Thomas senior's parents but I believe he was born in Tenby and Maria was born in the Isle of Wight, Hampshire. Can anyone help fill in the blanks please? Thanks, Kate