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Hi! Trying to find any information on KATE ROBSON, born around 1861 in Hull. (I have found her in the 1971 and 1981 census but nothing for 1901 and 1911). Kate had a daughter called May who was born on 24 May 1894 in Hull. There is no father's name on May's birth certificate and she is registered as May Marion Robson. I would like to find out what happened to Kate after this date although she does crop up again in 1916 as being present at the birth of a grandson so she must have kept May if she wasn't married. Can you help me please? Thanks! A death record would be useful too please.

wonder if this is May , the head of house may have got her place of birth wrong

POUNDLER, Frances Head Married M 38 1873 Boat Builder Hartlepool Durham VIEW
POUNDLER, Nellie Evelyn Wife Married
2 years F 30 1881 Hartlepool Durham VIEW
POUNDLER, Margaret Daughter F 1 1910 Durham W Hpool VIEW
ROBSON, May Servant Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Durham W Hpool VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
29603 Reference:
RG14PN29603 RG78PN1718A RD545 SD1 ED3 SN288

Registration District:
Hartlepool Sub District:
Hartlepool Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
West Hartlepool

Address:
Midland House Cleveland Road West Hartlepool County:
Durham

Do you have May's marriage certificate?
Who were the witnesses at the wedding?

Hi! I only have May's birth certificate. I found Kate on the 1871 (aged 10) and 1891 census (aged 30). Both indicate living in Hull. I can't see that there is a Hartlepool connection as everything indicates Hull. Adeline - I do think this is Kate's birth (that ties in). Thank you.

so how does the ref to a granchilds birth, where she was present in 1916 ,tie in

I have a birth cert for May's son James son (1916). On this it states: Kate Robson, grandmother. Present at birth. This is the only later link that I have but it confirms that she must have been around in 1916. Thanks!

Hope this thread is still current? I have some further information on Kate (Catherine) Robson but still can't find where she was born or a marriage. A headstone confirms that she died 1925 and was buried in Hull. In same grave is Minnie (d 1935), William (d 1968) and Enid Mary (d 2005). On her death cert the cert is "informant son Samuel Robson" - can't find anything for him either and states "widow of John Robson, master builder". Can anyone offer any help please? Thank you!

Kate Robson
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name:
Kate Robson
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
Hull Holy Trinity, Hull, Yorkshire East Riding, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
County:
Yorkshire (East Riding)
Parish:
Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Stephens
Registration District:
Hull
Residence Note:
James Place
Sex:
Female
Age:
0
Birth Year (Estimated):
1861
Birthplace:
York Hull,
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Daughter
Page Number:
23
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
3592 / 69
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1861/3592/00960A&parentid=GBC/1861/0018542988
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Michael Robson Head Male 30 York Hull,
Mary J Robson Wife Female 21 York Hull,
Kate Robson Daughter Female 0 York Hull,
Margaret Harrison Wifes Sister Female 14 York Hull,
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Kate Robson
England and Wales Census, 1881
Kate Robson
England and Wales Census, 1871

Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
ROBSON Kate Hull 9d 189

Does the death certificate give an address for Samuel ?

Births Sep 1894 (>99%)
Robson May Marion Hull 9d 232

Deaths Jun 1925 (>99%)
Robson Catherine 64 Sculcoates 9d 206

Deaths Mar 1935 (>99%)
Robson Minnie 32 Hull 9d 307

No death registration for Edith Mary Robson in 2005


Name: Minnie Spenceley
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1927
Registration District: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Spouse: William Robson

Name: Minnie Spenceley
Registration Year: 1902
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 292

1911

Name: Minna Spenceley
[Minnie Spenceley]
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Holy Trinity and St Mary
Country: England
Street Address: 80 Spenceley Bdys Goodwin St
Registration District Number: 522
Sub-registration District: Myton
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Piece: 28778
Household Members:
Name Age
William Spenceley 37
Monnie Spenceley 38
Murial Elizabeth Spenceley 10
Minna Spenceley 3
Cyril Adam Spenceley 4
William Thomas Spenceley 2
Enid Mary Spenceley 4/12

???

Kate Pearson
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Kate Pearson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: John Pearson
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub-registration District: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors:
Piece: 4495
Folio: 135
Page Number: 3
Household Schedule Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pearson 48 - Tailor, Hull
Kate Pearson 40
May Pearson 7 - Hull
Samuel Pearson 6 - Hull
William Pearson 4 - Hull
Isabella Pearson 2 - Hull


??
ROBSON, ISABELLA JONES -
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 322


ROBSON, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 236

ROBSON, SAMUEL -
GRO Reference: 1895 J Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 257


I can't see any marriage for John and Kate.

For the sake fo elimination -

this is NOT an earlier marriage for John Pearson .

John Pearson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Pearson
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 290
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Emma Hopwood
John Pearson


John Pearson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: John Pearson
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary E. Pearson
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunmanby, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Drypool
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 4 East St
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Gen Lab
Registration District: Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors:
Piece: 4753
Folio: 17
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
John Pearson 27
Mary E. Pearson 25
Robert G. Hepworth 7
John R. Pearson 4
Samuel H. Pearson 3

That John died in 1882, and Mary Emma is a widow in 1891 census.:

Kate's a widow in 1911:

Hale Pearson
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Hale Pearson
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Hull
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Stepney Grove Fleet St Stepney Lane Hull
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Tailoress
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration District: East Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 28704
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mapplebeck 59
Hale Pearson 49 [ Kate ]
Magy Pearson 17 [ May ]
Samuel Pearson 16
William Pearson 14

This is the grandson's birth

Name: James S Fenton
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration District: Sculcoates
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Mother's Maiden Name: Robson
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 431

and his Probate

Name: James Samuel Fenton
Death Date: 7 Apr 1971
Death Place: Kingston Upon Hull
Probate Date: 9 Jul 1971
Probate Registry: Leeds

Can't see any sign of his mother on censuses, although she's on the 1939 register

Well, at least the 1900 death is not that of the Kate "Pearson" in the 1911 census.


I think it's very possible that James S Fenton's mother May is May "Pearson" in 1901 and 1911, who reverted to her birth name before her marriage in 1915.

FULL info on that birth

ROBSON, KATE HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1860 S Quarter in HULL Volume 09D Page 189

Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%)
Harrison Mary Jane Hull 9d 291
Robson Michael Hull 9d 291


1871
Frances Street, West, Sculcoates, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Michael Robson Head - Male 60 1811 - Yorkshire, England
Mary Jane Robson Wife - Female 31 1840 - Yorkshire, England
Fanny Robson Daughter - Female 11 1860 - Yorkshire, England
Kate Robson Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England
Margrate Robson Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Yorkshire, England
Michel Robson Son - Male 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England
Emley Ann Wilson Sister - Female 38 1833 - Yorkshire, England

1891

Name: Kate Robson
Gender: Female
Age: 30
Relationship: Niece
Birth Year: 1861
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Hull, Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, Institution or Vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3933
Folio: 86
Household Members:
Name Age
James Wilson 54
Emily A Wilson 52
Frances Casey 52
Kate Robson 30
Margaret Robson 27
Mary J Robson 18
Theresa Robson 15
Agnes Robson 13
Emily Robson 12
Mary J Robson 52


BUT...as Kate/Catherine didn't marry, how does anyone know who her father was?

Thanks everyone! MAY ROBSON was my grandma, my father was JAMES SAMUEL. May's mother Kate Robson was present at his birth in 1916 - it's stated on his birth certificate. So she was alive then and died 1925. I sent for the birth cert for MAY MARION and no father or occupation noted, just crossed out (born 24 May 1894). Also named on this certificate is her mother as KATE ROBSON but recently found headstone in local cemetery that gives her the name CATHERINE ROBSON. On all the certs I have she is always "Kate" but I do know the Catherine on the stone is the correct one because the stone is next to my other relatives and the local Bereavement Services confirmed the address as where my dad was born. I sent for the death certificate of Kate Robson that seemed to match but then on receipt of this she died in 1900 so that' that one ruled out.